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Title: Restricting a 600
Post by: Bussy on 23 September 2012, 11:13:01 am
Hi all, just wondering if one of you guys could do me a favour, son has just passed his A2 bike test which means he is restricted for 2 years to 33bhp. He is thinking of buying a fzs600 and I would like a drawing of the washers that go into the air intake so as I can make some.  Can anyone help me out?  ;)
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: red98 on 23 September 2012, 11:31:29 am
dont know much about these restricters :\ ..... great to make your own but would`nt you need a certificate to satisfy big brother   ;)
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: Bussy on 23 September 2012, 11:42:24 am
Thanks for the reply. According to the bumf I have read dont need a cirtificate for plod and some insurance companies dont ask for one, anyway sure you can buy one from somewhere   :D
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: red98 on 23 September 2012, 11:57:01 am
had a quick look on the net  ;)  cant find measurements  :\ someone will be along shortly who have the plates loose that they could measure for you  :D ......good luck :)
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: ade the blade on 23 September 2012, 12:10:34 pm
hey Red, thought you would be the very man to talk to about restricted 600`s without any washers i might add !!  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin  aw i`m sorry. how cruel  :lol
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: bigsteve on 23 September 2012, 12:36:08 pm
Hi Bussy
  If your son buys a FZS 600  give me a shout have set of washers in my tool box which were removed from Mrs's Gen1 600 after she did her 2 years you can have them
  may also so have certificate  :deal
 Steve
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: Bussy on 23 September 2012, 04:38:57 pm
Thanks big steve will let you know, much apprechiated  :thumbup
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: red98 on 23 September 2012, 05:49:09 pm
hey Red, thought you would be the very man to talk to about restricted 600`s without any washers i might add !!  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin  aw i`m sorry. how cruel  :lol






very bl**dy funny   :\ :\ :\ :\
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: red98 on 23 September 2012, 05:52:09 pm
Hi Bussy
  If your son buys a FZS 600  give me a shout have set of washers in my tool box which were removed from Mrs's Gen1 600 after she did her 2 years you can have them
  may also so have certificate  :deal
 Steve




there you go [size=78%]go [/size] :D  that didnt take long ;) a helpful foccer  :D ..........bet hes not from wales  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: phillywilly on 23 September 2012, 05:57:53 pm
i dont know about the size but i know he,ll be chuffed with bike even when it is restricted  ;)
mine is restricted with washers and it still goes like stink on acceleration -its only mid and top range that the washers restrict it - or so ive been told so dont flame me if im wrong , but after going from a 125 to restricted 600 im still smiling even after two weeks  :lol
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: bigsteve on 23 September 2012, 06:06:51 pm
I found riding Mrs's 600 with restritor on they dont hang around
  just have to  use gears as the bike runs out of steam at 6500 rpm
 but still good for breaking national speed limit !!!!!!
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: ade the blade on 23 September 2012, 06:10:55 pm
hey Red, thought you would be the very man to talk to about restricted 600`s without any washers i might add !!  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin  aw i`m sorry. how cruel  :lol






very bl**dy funny   :\ :\ :\ :\

 :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: Raymy on 25 September 2012, 01:45:40 am
its not just the washers (gaskets) but the carb needles that restrict it as well as they are a good bit thicker
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: willmckeand on 06 November 2012, 01:22:07 am
hey there, if you email me at feel_the_noise@hotmail.co.uk I can send you pictures I took of my restrictors  being measured calipers, you should be able to get the measurements from them. I just took the pictures quickly before I put them in for reference.


The ones I use work great, was dyno tested and gives 30hp but still does not hang around!


Will
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: darrsi on 06 November 2012, 01:35:24 am
I think you need to chat with young xLEWISBDx
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: xlewisbdx on 07 November 2012, 10:01:02 am
I think you need to chat with young xLEWISBDx


Honey I am here  :rollin

I have the restrictors in I just bought them off eBay £35 for the official ones no certificate as you don't need it.
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: darrsi on 07 November 2012, 10:39:13 am
You don't need certificates if you have a full licence, but i would think if you have a restricted licence for 2 years then you will need one as proof if you are stopped if you are on a bike that's normally over 33bhp?  :rolleyes
I s'pose it would depend on the knowledge of the the police that stopped you, but the real problem would be with insurers i'd imagine? 
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: xlewisbdx on 07 November 2012, 01:36:54 pm
You don't need certificates if you have a full licence, but i would think if you have a restricted licence for 2 years then you will need one as proof if you are stopped if you are on a bike that's normally over 33bhp?  :rolleyes
I s'pose it would depend on the knowledge of the the police that stopped you, but the real problem would be with insurers i'd imagine?


The certificate is not recognized by law therefore you don't need it.
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: darrsi on 07 November 2012, 01:48:35 pm
There must be some kind of law involved otherwise people simply wouldn't need to, or even bother, restricting their bikes?  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: xlewisbdx on 07 November 2012, 01:50:55 pm
There must be some kind of law involved otherwise people simply wouldn't need to, or even bother, restricting their bikes?  :rolleyes


Nope not at all. I didn't restricted mine. Then I crashed and decided I should.

You only really need to restrict it in the event of a claim and it's part of your license condition.
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: Dead Eye on 07 November 2012, 03:05:00 pm
Isn't that exactly what darrsi said a couple of posts above?  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: darrsi on 07 November 2012, 03:16:25 pm
 :lol  That's what i thought i said  :lol
If you are unfortunate enough to have a bad accident and your bike gets hauled off for inspection and found not to be restricted when it's meant to be, then your insurance is invalid, so no pay out and then you get nicked for riding without insurance as well.  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: His Dudeness on 07 November 2012, 03:47:59 pm
i think if you're on a restricted license you have to restrict the bike but you don't have to have a cert saying it's restricted. however some insurance companies do look for them
Title: Re: Restricting a 600
Post by: Lawrence on 08 November 2012, 06:57:56 pm
There must be some kind of law involved otherwise people simply wouldn't need to, or even bother, restricting their bikes?  :rolleyes
Of course there is.  It's not driving in accordance with your licence.
 
Quick google and I found this (http://www.motorbikesolicitor.co.uk/Driving_Otherwise_than_in_Accordance_with_a_Licence_and_No_Road_Tax/).  They say up to  £1000 fine, 3-6 points and potentially a ban.  The relevant part is "you do not have the relevant licence for that class of vehicle."  You've also got to remember that your insurance will be invalid.  If you smashed up someones car , your insurance would pay out the third party (they're legally obliged to afaik) but then they'd come after you to get their money back.