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General => General => Topic started by: bwizz on 22 September 2012, 02:28:37 pm
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There is a lovely sheen replica gsxr ib a local dealers, this has really stirred my soul. Much more focused riding position obviously. but any Fazer owner had one to comment on the difference
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Well i rode a mates gsxr 600 the other day, it was good fun and sounded mean,had an akropovic can and stuff, but i wouldnt want to ride it far,
I would say theyre fun for sunday blasts of 50 to 100 miles, anything more and the fazer rules
I also had the urge to continually ride like a tit on the gsxr whereas the fazer chills me out.
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I was thinking it would be nice to get out of the wind blast on the local A roads.
I seem to remember my old cbr 600 was very relaxed at motorway speed.?
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I've only ridden one once and it was a terrific sports bike. I didn't find it uncomfortable which was a bit of a shock and as I'm no spring chicken.
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What model is it ? Is it an oil or water cooled bike ? I've had few of both, the later K series models are very light but the build quality is very poor !
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i have a 2000 750y but i've not actually got it on the road yet :(
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Its a 2005 k5 . Its overpriced but as its a genuine Sheen replica. I should think it will hold its value. As their are only 30 in the UK!
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I own and have owned several GSXR's as well as my fazer thou, I own gixxer thou K7.
I had to have another this year. I owned a K3 750, and only sold it for the fazer so I could take the missus.
In my opinion the 750 is the best of the gixxers all round, great power and torque that you can use more of and better midrange than the 600.
Sometimes wish I had the 750 again than the gixxer thou as you can cane it more, but I use the mode switch on my thou and can cut the power if I wish.
Jumping from fazer to gixxer is very strange, but for general road riding the fazer is the best.
Don't even think of taking a passenger on a gixxer apart from frightening your pillion to death, it's pure agony for the rider!
Gixxers are great if you can keep your speed above average of 40 mph, as the weight kills the wrists. The seat is hard as nails too. The grin you get when you open the throttle and the soundtrack though is awesome, gixxers are very raw and scary fast.
I'd give one a go, but be honest with what riding you do most of. :)
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Forgot to mention the handling too, amazing it is :D
They do tend to bring the loon out of you though as already mentioned. :evil
A good gixxer 750, with a good pipe etc should give a good 130 BHP too.
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I will be keeping my thou for 2 up work . thinks I will have a test ride to see how i get on with the riding position.It might be to severe for my creaking spine
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Not gonna help the neck I'd imagine. The wrist thing scares me cos mine are gubbed and really tighten up after a couple hours on the fazer
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I've had one as my all in bike for the past 6 years (although finally test riding the little brother of its intended replacement his Saturday, so finally chopping it in). 35k miles, riden in all weathers, with luggage, pillion, you name it. Couldn't recommend it highly enough, comfy for 300+ mile journeys (I know, I did), camping, blasts etc. Soon get used to the position (had an FZ6 before), although it will goad you to give it the beans!
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How old are you poodyboy? The impulse to get one is still running but I feel I need to feel more commited before I ask for a test ride. Also not sure about paying so much over Parkers guide for a 20000 mile Sheen replica, if I put 10000 miles on , It will considered high mileage
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Still the right side of 40, but only just. I've got a k7 (bought launch day 2006).
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Swapped bikes with mate for the ride home from Horse shoe pass few months back. GSXR1000K2. Knees, wrists & neck were aching after less than 5 minutes. Not even sure I could entertain one for the odd Sunday morning blast. Reminded me why I sold the Fireblade. I had to practically force him to pull over so we could swap back! I was toying with the idea of buying an old SRAD750 but quickly dismissed it after this.
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Poody
How often did you wash it in rainy or winter weather? Does it not threaten to crumble if you don't?
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It does ok really. A couple of bits do suffer; the exup valve's right on the bottom of the exhaust, so that's in the firing line for salt'n'crap. Got to ACF50 that or it'll rot, and the radiators deteriorated a bit. But it's probably not washed as it should be. Mostly due to "I'm a lazy bastard"
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If you're a lazy bastard then I might as well just sell it now
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I finally had a go on a 09 model in a local dealers. as people have said , it would turn me into a holigan in no time at all.
Seems, not as much take of grunt as the 600 Fazer up to around 6000 revvs. easy to ride fast though, also very light. love one if I was a few years younger , but as it is my neck would never cope. getting back on my Fazer for the ride home made me appreciate what a good all rounder the Fazer is! Another after thoght is that it would be very hard to adjust to the totally different
riding position and output if it was a second bike yet again probably no problem if you are 20ish
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After reading all these I now know 2 things. My body just hurts on sportsbikes-wrists,shoulders,neck,hips-you name it its knackered! :'( Oh and the second thing...why were here on the "Foccers" site-theyre so comfortable-a bike for all seasons/reasons :lol Good luck to the masochists,see you at the osteopath! :lol
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I've got a K7 thou as per my avatar pic my second bike after a 2001 FZS600. It's not as comfy, I have no problem with my back or wrists but my knees don't like the higher footpegs. I ride it all the year round apart from in the ice (never touched the power mode switch). I find it fine even going to central London and back, approx 120 miles each way in London rush hour without any problem.
The engine and controls are really smooth easy to ride, even if it does encourage you to cane it. I've really enjoyed the bike but I'm attempting to save for an Aprilia RSV4 Factory as find sportsbikes easy to get on with.
The only way you will find if it is for you is to take it for a test ride.
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Yes the ride was a great experience, very focused and nimble,
I have the wisdom to ride own one but not the body
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some will fit it no doubt ( bloody contortionists) but after years of riding upright bikes, I could never be comfy on any sportsbikes. Plus I do question just where you can really use what they have , other than for an odd moment or two...?
oh yes , of course , the track !...
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Not gonna help the neck I'd imagine. The wrist thing scares me cos mine are gubbed and really tighten up after a couple hours on the fazer
I don't get this. If you put weight on your wrists when riding, you're doing it all wrong. On crotch rockets, you should ride fast and let the back and stomack (and leg) muscles hold your body. If going fast enough, wind helps a lot too. But people who ride sport bikes and complain about "too much weight on the wrists" are riding wrong bike for their style of riding.... just like when I tried riding fazer off road. :rollin
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Anyone care to comment on brakes as compared to the Fazer?
I crashed a gx750 on a track day because it couldn't haul me up as quickly as I was expecting, but then it was a hire bike and the previous gx600 I'd been given the brakes actually failed!! so it might have been just shit bikes.
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If you put weight on your wrists when riding, you're doing it all wrong. On crotch rockets, you should ride fast and let the back and stomack (and leg) muscles hold your body.
If you have a problem with weight on your wrists, try gripping the tank with your thighs firmly. This pushes your feet down onto the pegs and supports the body allowing you to drop your shoulders and elbows taking the weight off the wrists and making steering easier too.
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Slaninar, I totally agree, but the problem I have is dodgy wrists. Even on the fazer, mine tend to seize up after a while more due to being static over time and pain creeping in that way. It's pretty fuckin troublesome
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Slaninar, I totally agree, but the problem I have is dodgy wrists. Even on the fazer, mine tend to seize up after a while more due to being static over time and pain creeping in that way. It's pretty fuckin troublesome
Uff, that's a problem. Sorry to hear that... and glad it doesn't stop you from riding! :)
BTW, my back is so fucked up (from childhood) that muscles do 90% of the work and crotch rockets shoud be perfect for my back. I try to lay low on fazer too, just so my back isn't vertical and doesn't soak up all the road bumps directly. The only reason I didn't get a crotch rocket is they're too one use only. Too sensitive to bad roads (fazer has softer shocks), too lively on the throttle (they practically force you to ride them fast). Also too little room for luggage (fazer doesn't look too good with a top box - but on a RR it's out of the question).
Fazer does things on public roads almost as good as a R. replica bike. Only time I've ever wanted a harder suspension and more race oriented bike was on a track day.
Besides, GIXXER is nice, but R6 or CBR600RR are a bit nicer bikes. My first Japanese bike was a Suzuki, they are nice, but Yamaha and Honda are a class above I think. Price is also higher, though.
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If you do get one I have an Abbastand and Abba front lift which I bought for my K3 (I think the adapters fit through the K range), you can get adapters for it from Abba to fit any Gixer model and its very useful when yuo're working on the bike.
It's in the for sale section if you're interested...
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I had a GSXR750 K2.. Fantastic bike, awsome noise when reved out. Brilliant handling. Sold it as it kept encouraging me to go at insane speeds. I just couldnt overcome the "go fast go fast" messages the bike keeps shouting :evil
Its a great bike eveyone should try one.......
Now on a fazer 600 haha :D and loving it.
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I agree for the right person , Great bike, very exciting .Due to the huge difference in riding positions etc, It would take me ages to be able to go quicker on the GSXR,than I can on the Fazer .Shame, but not for me at nearly 60 and with a knackered neck.
As an after though some people get on with push bike drop position, but I never could, as my back played up! This was in my early 30,s , The Gixer would probable suit somebody with a cycle race back ground.
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I agree for the right person , Great bike, very exciting .Due to the huge difference in riding positions etc, It would take me ages to be able to go quicker on the GSXR,than I can on the Fazer .Shame, but not for me at nearly 60 and with a knackered neck.
As an after though some people get on with push bike drop position, but I never could, as my back played up! This was in my early 30,s , The Gixer would probable suit somebody with a cycle race back ground.
Tried mate's GIXEr yesterday. Took it for a short spin. He is a former cyclist racer. Still rides very strong (15 years older than me and leaves me waaaay behind on longer climbs). He has a SM 600 bike, one cylinder. It suits him for town and tight twisties. He says GIXEr is better for long, less tight twisties and for the motorway. For everything else it is too awkward handling (takes a lot more room to make a slow moving circle on it, can't bend the steering wheel enough), and makes you want to go fast.
For the 5 minute ride I took, it felt comfortable (my back likes that position). It feels and looks nice, but just not practical enough for 90% of the way I use a motorcycle. I'd use it as a 2nd, track use bike.
It's also a fact that, from my black Fazer, friend's red CBF600S, the yellow GIXEr was unanimously declared as "the prettiest!" bike by all the children present at the party yesterday. They all wanted to sit on the GIXXer! :)
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The brakes should be better, specially paired with decent suspension, but my own experience of suzuki brakes is that if you dont maintain them they get crap pretty quickly
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The one I had a go on ,(09) the brakes were brilliant, as was the gear shift ,handling , power delivery .
If I had youth on my side it would be a must have, Both bikes I looked at in the local dealers on have now been sold