Yes, I had a set of braided and one of the lines failed.
Yes, I had a set of braided and one of the lines failed.
Crikey, you dug that one up! :lol
Standard rubber brake lines don't generally fail, it can happen but more likely is that they become soft and you lose braking performance. Pulsing through the lever although normally indicates a fucked disc can be the sidewalls of the rubber lines starting to give and although difficult to explain its a different sensation of pulsing that a warped disc would give.
I have had a set of braided lines let go on me, they where fitted by a previous owner of the bike that I owned at the time and must have been twisted to get them to fit, this caused the outer braiding to split and the inner pipe to pop out like a hernia and burst. This is why I now only use the braided lines and the ends swivel to stop the twisting of the lines under installation.
Standard rubber brake lines don't generally fail, it can happen but more likely is that they become soft and you lose braking performance. Pulsing through the lever although normally indicates a fucked disc can be the sidewalls of the rubber lines starting to give and although difficult to explain its a different sensation of pulsing that a warped disc would give.
I have had a set of braided lines let go on me, they where fitted by a previous owner of the bike that I owned at the time and must have been twisted to get them to fit, this caused the outer braiding to split and the inner pipe to pop out like a hernia and burst. This is why I now only use the braided lines and the ends swivel to stop the twisting of the lines under installation.
Hi Deefer, how different is the feel between deteriorated lines and warped discs? I've been getting the chattering/pulsing lever since I recently changed my pads (to EBC). It's usually most noticeable the more pressure I apply, and backing off the brake relieves it. The pistons moved freely when I changed the pads it and all the bolts were torqued down properly. I changed the brake fluid this week (looked like it was long overdue) but I'm still getting the same pulsing. There doesn't seem to be too much play in the headstock bearings from what I can tell (did the same thing I do with pushbikes, trying to move the fork backwards and forwards with the wheel off the ground).
It's hard to describe the feel, but it feels almost like the pads are chattering out of the caliper. I've read through a few posts on here stating that new lines made a difference, and I am planning to do put some HEL ones on at some stage using the forum discount, but how would easy is it to tell if the disc is warped without a dial gauge? I gave them a good clean last night and the front wheel spins freely with no apparent binding. I measured the thickness when I changed the pads and the disc itself was within spec, though I will check it again. The lines themselves look to be original though I can't see any bulging or cracking at all. I am planning to try cleaning the floating disc bobbins at some point as well.
Standard rubber brake lines don't generally fail, it can happen but more likely is that they become soft and you lose braking performance. Pulsing through the lever although normally indicates a fucked disc can be the sidewalls of the rubber lines starting to give and although difficult to explain its a different sensation of pulsing that a warped disc would give.
I have had a set of braided lines let go on me, they where fitted by a previous owner of the bike that I owned at the time and must have been twisted to get them to fit, this caused the outer braiding to split and the inner pipe to pop out like a hernia and burst. This is why I now only use the braided lines and the ends swivel to stop the twisting of the lines under installation.
Hi Deefer, how different is the feel between deteriorated lines and warped discs? I've been getting the chattering/pulsing lever since I recently changed my pads (to EBC). It's usually most noticeable the more pressure I apply, and backing off the brake relieves it. The pistons moved freely when I changed the pads it and all the bolts were torqued down properly. I changed the brake fluid this week (looked like it was long overdue) but I'm still getting the same pulsing. There doesn't seem to be too much play in the headstock bearings from what I can tell (did the same thing I do with pushbikes, trying to move the fork backwards and forwards with the wheel off the ground).
It's hard to describe the feel, but it feels almost like the pads are chattering out of the caliper. I've read through a few posts on here stating that new lines made a difference, and I am planning to do put some HEL ones on at some stage using the forum discount, but how would easy is it to tell if the disc is warped without a dial gauge? I gave them a good clean last night and the front wheel spins freely with no apparent binding. I measured the thickness when I changed the pads and the disc itself was within spec, though I will check it again. The lines themselves look to be original though I can't see any bulging or cracking at all. I am planning to try cleaning the floating disc bobbins at some point as well.
If you are planning to change the lines anyway then make that your first job, because it's a damn site cheaper than replacing discs unnecessarily!
It would be unprofessional of me to give an opinion either way about a product or company, all I tend to do is say which companies I personally wouldn't use. ;)
Cheers both. Will take the pads out tonight and have a good look at the disc surface / pads/ retaining pins and clean everything up. Otherwise will try lines then discs. Because the juddering started right after changing the pads it's leading me to think it's related, but then the braking power with the new pads is so much stronger so it could be showing up a problem that was already existing somewhere else..
Hi guys, sorry if I'm hijacking the thread -feel free to tell me to foc off! Just checked the brakes and I think I've found the source of the judder. The retaining spring that sits on top of the pads on the left hand caliper seems to be warped - you can rock it up and down by pushing on either end and it knocks against the caliper body. I'm guessing it's knackered and needs replacing, but just to be sure I'm not doing something very stupid, does this look like it's seated properly?:
[url]http://imgur.com/HWwcw65[/url] ([url]http://imgur.com/HWwcw65[/url])
It's the same on the right hand side, and that spring doesn't move so I'm guessing it's positioned properly and it just got bent or warped at some point in the bike's life? The pin on the left has small grooves as well, probably because the pads have juddered around so much.