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Title: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 09:57:18 am
Hi all, me and a mate did an epic 577 mile round trip from scotland to collect our gen 1 fazer 1000s from the scottish borders to rochdale then from rochdale down to cannock to collect mine, they are both 05 models, but on inspection on one of our coffee stops we noticed a few differences, my one a blue one with black engine had different switchgear on the left handlebar my mate budgies had a hazard warning button and a headlamp flasher unit where mine does,nt have this, it only has the headlamp high beam switch and the horn on it,

Can anyone shed some light on this?  :D

Martin.
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: tomlinscote on 03 September 2012, 10:17:27 am
Mine is an -04 model (5LV code) and it has the flash and hazard switch. Maybe yours is a US model and maybe they didn't have those switches, not sure though!!
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 10:20:45 am
 :lol Hi thanks for the reply, i was assured it was a uk model but maybe it was,nt, are there differences between UK and US models? Can anyone shed some light on this? :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: ZiggyCol on 03 September 2012, 10:22:05 am
I seem to remember that one of the other differences was imports have side reflectors ?
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 03 September 2012, 10:23:18 am
My gen 1 05 reg has high beam, flash pas switch, hazard warning, indicators and horn.
On right switch , has start button and engine stop switch. No light switch.
As far as I'm aware earlier models had separate  light switch on right switchgear.
Could be earlier models didn't get hazard switch, on left switchgear, maybe yours has older switchgear on the left bar due to repair?
Check to see if you have seperate light switch on the right bar, this may tell you your bike is fitted with earlier model switches.
 
Hope this makes sense :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 03 September 2012, 10:30:11 am
If its a US model won't Speedo have kilometres per hour on the Speedo in preference to miles per hour?
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 10:37:32 am
Hi, ok it has no light switch on right switchgear only kill switch and starter button, speedo in mph as well,  :) no reflectors on fork legs either so i,m confused here, will there be any stickers or markings to say if UK or US model? :\
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: Tmation on 03 September 2012, 10:51:34 am
Mine is a 2004 USA import, no flash or hazard switch. There is a vin plate/sticker (white strip just before headstock in picture below), part of the number is a country code so either google it or visit/phone a yamaha dealer.


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/Fazer1000007.jpg)





[size=78%]My speedo is MPH Large with KPH Small.[/size]

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/screens013.jpg)


Better picture of Vin info.


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/Fazer1000010.jpg)


Gratuitous shot  :D


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/Fazer1000001.jpg)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 11:01:07 am
 :) Ok, thanks will be visiting my dealer soon, i assume theres no difference in performance?? can the uk switches be retro fitted?  :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 11:03:19 am
 :) Nice bike by the way !!  :lol
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: tomlinscote on 03 September 2012, 12:12:23 pm
No difference in performance, though if the bike was used in the USA the rear shock may need replacing earlier than expected  :lol
Anyone else notice the screen changes on Tmations fazer.........??
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 12:20:29 pm
Hi, its only been used in the uk as far as i,m aware, all the mot,s were done in the uk, it certainly does,nt feel lacking in performance, yes i noticed the screen change , intend to get a vario screen for mine  :) can the switchgear from with the flasher and hazard switch be retrofitted? anyone know?
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 03 September 2012, 12:28:36 pm
A nice new piug screen instead of MRA vario .
Looks very nice too :D
As regard switch, sure a search on eBay will find one, it depends on wiring plugs enabling working of hazards. Hopefully you won't need them on such a fine machine as the gen1 fazer thou is :D
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: tomlinscote on 03 September 2012, 12:30:22 pm
Why bother, I can say that in 8 years of having mine I only use them to check they actually still work, never used them on the road. its just as easy to flick the high beam switch on as to use the flasher IMHO unless of course your lights are not on all the time like mine are.
Hazard only works with ign on not like a car (to preserve the battery I would imagine) so its not like you can park it up somewhere and leave the hazards on whilst you do something else. I suppose they could be of some use for filtering but in my experience hardly anyone looks in their rear view mirrors to see you anyway!
That said, if the wiring loom has the wires in place I don't see why you couldn't get one from a breaker and fit it.
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 12:35:49 pm
Hi, all good points, just think they are a usefull tool, not often used i agree but two of my mates have uk fazers and both have had occasion to use them,  just a thought though, probably won,t bother unless its an easy job then i may do it :lol loving the bike though , screen i,ll change in time stock ok but need a better one :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: tomlinscote on 03 September 2012, 01:38:30 pm
No worries, but you may want to check the operation of the EXUP valve as if it had not been looked after it can give grief. Look on Pats Motor Cycle page for loads of info on how to sort it. The link is something like cartestsoftware/fz1
Screens like tyres are a constant subject on here so loads of info and opinions on both, have fun!!
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: Tmation on 03 September 2012, 02:38:06 pm
If yours is an import from the USA, the wiring is different for the indicators. Mine was modified from the dealer as I believe the indicators are on all the time as running lights and they flash off. Also the connection plugs are different, don't ask me how I know  :o .


Performance is the same, spare parts fit (apart from the above) and in over eight years of ownership I have never had a problem with genuine or aftermarket parts.


Look after it, ride and enjoy  :D
Title: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: cable tie on 03 September 2012, 08:14:31 pm
Welcome fella, I would not worry to much, my 2nd gen 1 had the same left hand switch gear as yours, I changed it due to a fault causing the electrics to go into disco mode on the dash !! And got a switch off the bay for 20 notes had flash and hazards just plugged in and worked no problem. 

Put some pics up of your new purchase.


Dave.
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 09:47:51 pm
Hi Dave, sounds good, will eventually change to the hazards and flasher if they just plug in all the better  :) will post pics as soon as i get some taken. shes a beautie  :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 03 September 2012, 09:58:11 pm
Also intend to have the exup valve checked  :D :D
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: bigsteve on 03 September 2012, 10:58:24 pm
Hi
  Nice looking bike
 in second picture is that a digital fuel gauge ???
 
  Not to worry discovered what it is on tinterweb
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 04 September 2012, 07:34:07 am
Also intend to have the exup valve checked  :D :D
Hi Boxer , don't rely on the dealer checking it, its not in the Yamaha service schedule, been some horror storys of dealers foccin charging daft prices for sorting seized exup valves!
If you haven't got the 7k error code, its good start. Have good look at the bolts on the housing, see if they are rusted, if so proceed with caution. If you can get the cover off then you can check working of the valve and cables. Use some penetrating fluid to soak before undoing anything.
Servicing the exup is easy once you can undo bolts. This should be done every service for a trouble free life. There is in depth guide on Pat's motorcycle page. :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 04 September 2012, 08:02:14 am
Hi, Great, will see what its like when i dig it out of the garage, the bolts did,nt look rusty so hopefully its ok, will keep everyone posted and hopefully get some pics when i get a chance to upload them :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 04 September 2012, 08:06:35 am
Nice one Boxer, if you get stuck with exup plenty help on here ;) :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 04 September 2012, 08:27:24 am
Thanks, its great to be on a fazer 1000 gen 1 again, miss my lava red 05 one, but the blue one i just bought a minter will enjoy it  :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 04 September 2012, 09:43:45 am
Didn't realise you have owned one before.
Shows what a great bike they are, when folks return to them :)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 04 September 2012, 09:58:24 am

  :D Yes this will be my 3rd gen 1 my first was a silver one, then the lava red and now the blue, so well versed in them, just wondered why the latest one has a few differences , am visiting alan duffus in kirkaldy tomorrow so hopefully get some answers there , all in all am very happy with it. :D
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: jackojet on 04 September 2012, 04:31:05 pm
They say blue one's are the fastest, but dark grey is the stealthier  ;)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 04 September 2012, 04:55:45 pm
Yes i,ve heard the blue ones were fastest  :evil like the grey , also like the yellow limited edition  :lol
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: 1967fazer on 04 September 2012, 09:32:58 pm
Blue's the best colour anyway ;)
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: pitternator on 05 September 2012, 07:14:16 am
US bikes also had BIG indicators as stock... a good clue too.
 
Taz of Peterborough did sell a shed load of US spec FZ-1s( gen2) in 06 and 07. They made  a right rats tail of the wiring to switch it over on mine though...so be careful if you fit any tail tidy for example...
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: karlo on 05 September 2012, 07:18:20 am
They say blue one's are the fastest, but dark grey is the stealthier  ;)

LMAO  :rollin
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: rjd1 on 05 September 2012, 12:07:25 pm
i also use duffes for yam bits, gid salesman Mark very helpfull real biker
i have hazard light on my yellow 2003 an hazards work with key out if you turn it to park on ign
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: phil on a fazer on 05 September 2012, 12:59:22 pm
If its a US model won't Speedo have kilometres per hour on the Speedo in preference to miles per hour?

its MPH in the states not KPH.
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: Falcon 269 on 05 September 2012, 03:01:55 pm
Unless you're a Hardly rider.  They have speedos calibrated in FPD.


































Furlongs Per Decade. :D
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: richfzs on 05 September 2012, 05:33:53 pm
Thought you meant Feet per Day  :lol
Title: Re: gen fazer 1000 differences.
Post by: boxer1 on 05 September 2012, 09:57:05 pm
 :) my gen 1 has big indicators, not sure where it came from but will check the sevice book when i get a moment, i was at alan duffus today but when i asked about it the guy i asked seemed vague in his answer, he seemed to think it was a crossover model but he did,nt seem sure, he also said the hazard and flasher switchgear could,nt be retro fitted :'( but not sure if he actually knew, so the mystery continues,  :o :o :o