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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: rjd1 on 26 August 2012, 12:09:29 am
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front end on just tidying up then road test
gettin ignition security bolt`s out were a mission good old dewalt had to remove it from bike
need new horn bracket
also need to space nose fairing out slightly as it rubs
apart from wee niggles not a bad job
cant wait to test them out few pics
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/1816AD40-79A5-4F70-8537-D99EA7BE8783-1695-000002494B57DED0.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/D265676F-546C-4672-B08C-3D683F800E6E-1695-00000249975D6100.jpg)
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I'm puzzled as to why you say it rubs!! there should be no need to space the fairing out whatsoever.
I've done 3 conversions on gen1 's and never have they rubbed on the farings, what yokes have you used !!
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(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/6966C2E4-3345-420F-B624-399D28EC2186-1695-00000249BDC83D02.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/CCD82CB5-C0EC-47CC-9E0B-A05D8C72DF6C-1695-00000249B51D6F53.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/A677D65C-EF9E-401A-A7C6-E4437C65885A-1695-00000249D16FCC5C.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/6A831C06-D819-420F-9FFA-A3FA6B347983-1695-00000249C6EFF73B.jpg)
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(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/BADDAE8F-B7C8-4BB7-8504-43A0ED050846-1695-00000249D9AC45B6.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/8167BD5F-BD38-4F71-97AC-DB3A9C268263-1695-0000024A042A8782.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/805CA876-1873-4E7C-834A-A43444ED61B6-1695-00000249FCDD32E9.jpg)
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(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/70AEF5F0-6E1D-40DC-8D03-76C8E35FDEFE-1695-00000249EBDC3A17.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/CABD5C8F-FBEE-42A5-8EA8-25C6B271980B-1695-0000024A1FC51FDE.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/C41510AC-C224-4E48-8FEA-93C7359975AD-1695-0000024A11F0C206.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/67E053C0-4AD1-4C6A-88A4-185D6FC6BB50-1695-0000024A0ACAF017.jpg)
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I'm puzzled as to why you say it rubs!! there should be no need to space the fairing out whatsoever.
I've done 3 conversions on gen1 's and never have they rubbed on the farings, what yokes have you used !!
I concur. Something not right here.
Has the bike been in an accident that could have bent the fairing stay or worse - obviously - the steering head?
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that top yoke looks very familiar ;)
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no evidence of previous damage but bottom clamp defo touching both sides
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/1619AF85-6A49-4898-9FD0-FFC6D4AB32B8-2299-0000030E4FE9779D.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/EDAFF335-C6ED-42C0-AB8C-E1467983CC1F-2299-0000030E441D6188.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/715EEFB6-142E-41DB-B0C3-E02F29AAEE3D-2299-0000030E3B6D5247.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/5EB7B922-6DBF-45EF-AF9A-E1CD04DA7B29-2299-0000030E3086F001.jpg)
(http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/rjd11/01053153-3615-43A4-8A1C-F3A893AF730C-2299-0000030E222C86DE.jpg)
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I'll check mine later this morning and get back to you.
That definitely doesn't look right, though.
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what type of bearing did the old yokes use? bet it was a taper roller
did you not change the outer race?
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normal bearing`s front end just came off another fazer
was another forum member i got it from so defo no issue wie r1 front end
must be my fairing brackets
cant think of nowt else bearing`s are fine cleaned and re-greased everything is spot on apart from bottom of my fairing
thing is all panels look fine with allignment
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Mine has 1cm clearance both sides with the forks straight ahead. Same clearance all the way as I turn the bars fully to the lockstops in either direction. Yours ain't right, sorry. :(
Could it be a pattern aftermarket fairing? Something doesn't look quite right with it but hard to tell for sure from the photos you've posted.
Not sure, but might it be a fairing from a fox-eye 600?
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Thats definitely not a foxeye fairing the screen on that comes to a point at the bottom think it just needs the side brackets for the fairing fettling a smidge, as we all know they are made out of cheese
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can anyone confirm if the fairings are actually pysically different and not just might be different
i bought the bike last year from a main dealer and i did ask if it had any accident damage
hope for their sake thay have not sold me a crash damaged bike
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There is no difference what so ever, I've fitted 3 r1 kits to gen1 from O2-05, using 4xv and 5pwv forks one of the kits was supply only ready to bolt in the purchaser from this site fitted and said everything was perfect and very happy.
I like mike have checked mine and I'm very fussy so would no if it had touched the fairings at all, mine is clear from the fairings.
Have you checked the fazer1000 forum ie mikes thread build to make sure you fitted everything correct ie bottom yoke fitment, also may worth checking the fairing itself remove the top fairing plastic trim and have a look if there is fairing tabs broken and refixed dead giveaway its been over, alternative you really need someone who has done the conversion to have a look.
Where abouts are you !!
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west lothian
you?
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your bottom yoke is too low compared to mine.
did you fit the the yokes with the fork legs attached?
i did.......once. the bearing didn't sit correctly against the race.
thinking logically, did your old forks touch, if not, then either you have assembled it wrong or tommy has sold you a lemon.
take it off, measure the height of the steering stem on both yokes to see if they're the same, if so then you're a numpty ;)
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can anyone confirm if the fairings are actually pysically different and not just might be different
i bought the bike last year from a main dealer and i did ask if it had any accident damage
hope for their sake thay have not sold me a crash damaged bike
They do look very similar at first glance, but there is a difference. As has already been said, on the 600 the screen comes to a point at the bottom. Yours appears to be a 1000 fairing.
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I dont understand how you can say the bottom yoke is lower. it has the stem pressed into it, it goes all the way up into the frame and is tightened at the top, i dont see how the lower yoke could be moved up or down. am i missing something here?
I had a look today with rjd, everything looks spot on, apart from the lower yoke touching the fairings, what i really cant understand is the post that says they have 1cm gap between fairing and forks, is this 1cm from yoke?? because the only way i could see you having 1cm is if 1, your fairing has been chopped, 2, your yokes are not as wide, (but then fork spacing wouldnt be correct and wheel etc wouldnt go on) or 3, rjd has a pattern front fairing,
Any chance of some pics of these r1 front ends on your bikes? just for reference.
Cheers
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I dont understand how you can say the bottom yoke is lower. it has the stem pressed into it, it goes all the way up into the frame and is tightened at the top, i dont see how the lower yoke could be moved up or down. am i missing something here?
yes you are.
the steering stem doesn't go all the way through the bottom yoke, it actually protrudes 10mm, and has to be pinned/held in place as it isn't an interferance fit like the original fazer stem.
the bearings are narrow profile races and have to be lined up with a degree of care.
still wondering if the old headraces were taper roller as the races are different.
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12045.jpg)
forks set straight ahead
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When your on full lock does it come close to the fairing? i noticed the steering stem does stick out the bottom about 10mm, doesnt make sense, as it all look absolutely fine, when the steering is in the straight ahead position, its fine, its when its turned full lock, or nearly full lock should i say.
Cheers for pic mate.
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(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh219/daviddunc645/70580844-AD6E-44EF-A074-D3696545DE3A-3713-00000336C6E79836.jpg)
is it just me or does the fairing on this bike look a little different shaped.
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is it just me or does the fairing on this bike look a little different shaped.
That's what I thought, hence the question about Foxeye 600 or aftermarket fairing.
With the steering stem protruding from the lower yoke (clear to see in the photo) the rest of the stem-bearing-spacer geometry should be correct, unless there's something really weird in the bottom bearing area.
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top view down through fairing
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12051.jpg)
full right lock
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12046.jpg)
full right lock (without autofocus)
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12049.jpg)
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full left lock inner fairing
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12052.jpg)
coming around a bit
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12053.jpg)
1/4 right lock
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12054.jpg)
it looks like the fairing is 'different'
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Here are some pics of when I converted my Fazer.
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC0976.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC1005.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC0981.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC0992.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC0997.jpg)
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s85/adthebad/Fork%20conversion/_DSC0969.jpg)
PS Looking at sadlonelygit's pics I'd say the position of my bottom yolk is the same.
Here's the link to my conversion. Might help shed some light.
http://fazer1000.yuku.com/topic/3796/Fork-conversion (http://fazer1000.yuku.com/topic/3796/Fork-conversion)
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It sure looks smart with that R1 front end on.
I first started using these triple clamp forks and upside down forks in my days as a downhill mountain bike rider and mechanic,
we would spend £1000 on a set of Marzocchi monster Ts or rockshock , yes, just for a mountain bike, :eek
The importance of the right spring,oil thickness for the rider was very important as them riders in the elites do bloody motor.
We were lucky as it was easy to source all weights of springs, colour coded,,damping on compression and rebound.
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I can believe that manuel.
My first wage packet of £19.20 went on a Champag sadle stem for 17 quid. A lot of money 30+ years ago. Then my mum went ape shit because I'd spent 'house keeping'. WTF was house keeping when you were sixteen. :lol
And these days they do crazy things on those bikes.
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i sold this front end and its spot on....it also just scraped my fairing when on lock which i fixed by removing a small amount of inner fairing with a file..job done. heres a pic when it was on my bike, and the only way the bottom clamp could sit any lower was if the bearing wasnt seated correctly. The R1 bottom yoke is wide than the fazer.
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad211/Richey181/100_1845.jpg)
.....ive never sold anything that wasnt spot on btw.....some folks are a bit quick off the mark ;) Makes no odds to me if others clear and others dont...unless someones got the details of all fazer frontend conversions to hand which i doubt :z
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cheer`s bud i will recheck bearing`s
and get file oooot
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/s720x720/10477_10151068964453800_2045123135_n.jpg)
mo clearence issues with mine either
(http://www.devilsyam.com/images/fazer/P3300061%20(Small).JPG)
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Makes no odds to me if others clear and others dont...unless someones got the details of all fazer frontend conversions to hand which i doubt :z
Most of the owners that have done this mod are on this site and have never reported any issues with touching the fairings, the original modders went into great detail with a thread build on using r1 yokes and many have copied there method without issue, I myself have done 3 conversions my own, my mate, and a punter off this site, all happy bunnys and perfect fit.
So something is not correct !!
Now if there fairing is perfect I would buy a bottom r1 yoke and press a fazer stem in to eliminate bent bottom yoke.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/04/y8era7ag.jpg)
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...........stuff.............
i think the painters must be in ;)
and i wasn't having a dig tommy, not yet anyway!
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the bottom yoke in kartmans pic looks different to the one i used although it is sitting at the same level.and the pic in devils yam post are totally different. If you look at the pic of the bottom yoke i had it seems to have a little more material beyond the clamp bolts,its that casting line iirc that rubs the fairing, its very little, not like you cant turn the bars or nowt, might be wrong like but thats what it looks like. If the yoke was bent I would have noticed when they were fitted to my bike(if they were bent i would sling em in the bin).
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The hex bolts on the bottom yoke are also recessed. Could be a combination of this and and a slightly out of align fairing. Do the indicators sag down slightly when viewed from the front. If the mounting points for the side of the fairing are bent in I could imagine that this might also compound the problem of the yoke rubbing.
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could be, the fairing on rjds bike also looks slightly different at the bottom, looks like it has a taller lip section.....the pics sadlonelygit posted look like the fairing has been filed at some point, not saying he did it cause he didnt but it has a flat filed look to the fairing instead of the round finish it should have, what do you reckon ??
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/spain12051.jpg)