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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: dazza on 31 July 2012, 06:13:20 pm
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Hello peeps, recently whilst doing an oil change and using the correct removal tool it rounded off the end of the filter. Am wondering whether I should have let it cool down more before trying to remove it or the obvious and not nip it up so tight :\ but the damage has been done now so has anyone also had this problem and how did you get round it ? Please don't tell me to stick a screwdriver in it.
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first oil change on my bike about 4 years ago had the same problem. Resolved with a chain tool. It doesn't get put on so tight now!!!
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aye, chain whip is the answer. its a feck on, not a lot of space to work in, but possible (or at least it is on the 600). Certainly better than a screwdriver through it!!
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FWIW I used one like this.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAPER-77592-OIL-FILTER-REMOVAL-TOOL-CHAIN-WRENCH-130MM-CAPACITY-1-2-OR-24MM-/140734054442?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item20c467402a#ht_2343wt_962 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DRAPER-77592-OIL-FILTER-REMOVAL-TOOL-CHAIN-WRENCH-130MM-CAPACITY-1-2-OR-24MM-/140734054442?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item20c467402a#ht_2343wt_962)
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A fussy but effective method that I've used:- Drill two 6-8mm opposing holes in the hexagonal rim of your 'removal tool' and bash it back on to the filter. Next, get a pointy screwdriver thing and bash two holes in the filter through the holes in the removal tool, a sharp tap with a hammer does it. Next, the clever bit, screw two short fat wood screws through the holes, I used a couple that I found at the bottom of my cabinet, I'm sorry I don't know the sizes, obviously make sure the screwheads are grubbed up against the removal tools rim. Re-insert driver and lean on that breaker bar.
If that doesn't work for you and the filter seems to be just twisting and mangling up, use the screwdriver method.
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mine was very tight and i used a screwdriver and hit it on the lip where the filter screws on and it unscrewed with no issues
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The newer wide strap type on half inch drive seem to work well.. Once filter is knact going the screwdriver route you strugglin.. Had chain type rip thru a stubborn filter too.. Yes do it with engine warm.. :)
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There is a hard centre in side where the thread is, i ripped it open and used molegrips!
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What's wrong with a screwdriver? Are you planning to re-use the filter?
I've used a chain-type wrench before, and it can make as much mess as a screwdriver!
If it's a frequent problem and you don't like the total destruction methods of removal, try the K&N filter with the nut on the end, no more filter wrenches needed.
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mine was very tight and i used a screwdriver and hit it on the lip where the filter screws on and it unscrewed with no issues
That's how I'd do it, too. No mess that way.
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I like the mess!...my bike loves it when I splash my hot oil all over her after a hard ride ! :lol
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I have one of these http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_525159_categoryId_255216_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_Details_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PDPz1 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_525159_categoryId_255216_langId_-1?cm_sp=Intelligent_Offer-_-Product_Details_Zone_1-_-Blank&iozone=PDPz1)
In my arsenal of tools. it has gotten me out of many situations. the best thing is the harder you turn the tighter it gets.
i have the same problem on my 600 and this is the tool i used.
hope that helps :D
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I like the mess!...my bike loves it when I splash my hot oil all over her after a hard ride ! :lol
:rollin
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If it's being stubborn a big pair of water pump pliers usually does the job for me.
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(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51iQUzetXFL._AA115_.jpg) (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Toolzone-12-Oil-Filter-Pliers/dp/B002A25NCG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343837613&sr=8-1)
I've got one of these bay boys!
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I use that Halfrauds style one at my work. (they will do the trick), you can get it much cheaper from evilbay though, the chain style removers do tend to cut into the filter if it is very tight. a little oil on the gasket of the new filter and not to tight will be better for next time.
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Thanks for all your replies, didn't think I nipped it up that tight and I ran some oil on the rubber seal. I don't know about you guys but I'm starting to think that most modern components nowadays are made of cheese. Bought a new tv about 3 years ago...It's foc'd already, threw out a perfectly working old fashioned hitachi.....gutted. :\
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I use a bit of old grey plastic fall pipe, it's a tight fit just push it on and grip with both hands and unscrew it.
If it slipped, which it never has I would put some self tapping screws through it into the filter.
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Oil filters are only thin metal and piercing them can lead to them tearing open.
Easiest way - no tools needed. First clean the filter with white spirit or similar just to get the oil and grease off the outside. Next wrap a couple of loops of masking tape around it, then twist the masking tape around so that the sticky side is now facing out and continue to wrap it around. Finish by twisting the tape back around and sticking it to itself.
The filter should be removable by hand now due to the grip afforded by the sticky tape. Probably works with duck tape too. :)
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ive got quite a few filter removal tools but the best is a chain type wrench with no chain :eek instead it has an 1" wide nylon webbing,wider than a chain so wont dig in and tear the filter ;) ....never let me down,and good in tight spaces...cheap too...............oh and...fits on a 1/2 drive entension and ratchet :)
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The filter should be removable by hand now due to the grip afforded by the sticky tape. Probably works with duck tape too. :)
[ /quote] Would love to know how you get your hands in there
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Would love to know how you get your hands in there
lol cos he's a gynaecologist :lol
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Would love to know how you get your hands in there
lol cos he's a gynaecologist :lol
Only as a hobby. :D
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Only as a hobby. :D
always pays to keep your hand in :lol