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Title: new bike
Post by: red98 on 10 May 2012, 07:00:35 pm
hi all....iam going to look at a 1000 fazer tommrow to replace my ageing 600...iam taking my bike trailer and a wad of cash and if its as good as the pictures ill buy it on the spot....my trailer has a wheel chock and is  set up for the 600 front wheel does anyone know the size of the 1000 front wheel so i can adjust it before i leave ?  :)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 10 May 2012, 07:02:50 pm
hi all....iam going to look at a 1000 fazer tommrow to replace my ageing 600...iam taking my bike trailer and a wad of cash and if its as good as the pictures ill buy it on the spot....my trailer has a wheel chock and is  set up for the 600 front wheel does anyone know the size of the 1000 front wheel so i can adjust it before i leave ?  :)

forgot to mention....its on a 54 plate if that makes any difference
Title: Wheel sizes.
Post by: b1k3rdude on 10 May 2012, 07:04:29 pm
The 600 and the 100 have the same front wheel size I believe, which is 120/70-17 its only the rear which is different 160/60 17 for the 6 and 180/55-17 for the 1000.
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: VNA - BMW Wank on 10 May 2012, 07:13:25 pm
Dunno anything about bike trailers.

Gen1 Fazer 600's are 110 front tyres (17ich)  The later ones are 120's

Gen1 thou's are 120/70 17 inch.
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 10 May 2012, 07:51:44 pm
thanks for that.....i have a wheel chock on the trailer which aids loading,you push the bike on ,over the pivoting chock and into the wheel cradle which is spindle high and grips the front of the tyre,you can then let go of the bike and it wont fall over,leaving you with two hands to put the straps on,otherwise its a two man job....thanks again for comfirming wheel size....if i buy the bike i put some pictures on     :D :D
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: ade the blade on 10 May 2012, 08:24:26 pm
thanks for that.....i have a wheel chock on the trailer which aids loading,you push the bike on ,over the pivoting chock and into the wheel cradle which is spindle high and grips the front of the tyre,you can then let go of the bike and it wont fall over,leaving you with two hands to put the straps on,otherwise its a two man job....thanks again for comfirming wheel size....if i buy the bike i put some pictures on     :D :D
just a minute.....just a minute. whats all this new bike buying caper then ? i ain`t even authorized you to go and peruse other machines. ;)  hey, good luck with the purchase. haggle hard now, or ya uncle Ades gonna smack ya ass. oh and front tyre is 7000/765 R66. hope that helps ya now :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 12 May 2012, 06:57:24 am
hi ade......dam,was trying to keep it quite from the 600 boys,this dos`nt mean ive given up on the 600,just the new exhaust to put on now and then test ride.
 well i bought the 1000 last night and trailered it home,fitted well on the trailer for the 60 mile trip home,late getting home (10.30) so no time for fiddling with my new purchase,54 plate with rear hugger,renthal bars and scorpion end can,sounds great,just over 20,000 miles with full history.............price.............£2200,iam happy with that :D
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: bludclot on 12 May 2012, 07:23:24 am
 
congratulations. a thousand cc is not really needed for the road - but it's sure nice to have!
 
early 2s is what these bikes seem to fetch with just over 20k on the clock.
 
so, with that mileage, it will be exup first then suspension for your consideration..... mine had exactly that mileage and the rear shock was just a spring carrier and the exup was a nightmare to take apart... good luck!
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: PieEater on 12 May 2012, 09:05:06 am
a thousand cc is not really needed for the road
Pretty sweeping statement that - at 23 stone with a frequently used pillion perch I'd say a thousand CCs are more appropriate for my requirements than 600  :) Logically you could extend your reasoning to argue that anything capable of exceeding the national speed limit is not really needed for the road which I'm sure you're not advocating  ;) .
 
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 12 May 2012, 12:24:19 pm

 a thousand cc is not really needed for the road .....
 
think of the torque  ;) ;) ;)
 

Title: Re: new bike
Post by: ade the blade on 12 May 2012, 04:25:33 pm
come on, come on. chop chop. wheres the piccies to drool over then.put that screwdriver down and pick up ya camera. quick now.........we`re waiting !
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 12 May 2012, 07:58:20 pm
ive got a few mods to do first before i take the pictures...its got some hideous renthal bars on which are way to wide and worse still some engine crash bars which are simular to the bars used in a 6 man framed tent   :rollin :rollin :rollin 
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 12 May 2012, 08:08:32 pm
ive got a few mods to do first before i take the pictures...
I'm afraid that's no excuse. I want to see exactly what a  54 plate Gen1 for £2200 looks like.
I paid £2400 for my 2002. OK, it came needing nothing for a year and was from a Honda main dealer but I'm still slightly envious.
I'm hoping yours will look like a bag of nails and that will make me feel better.
I'm preparing myself to be gutted though :'(
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: mcyoungy on 12 May 2012, 08:17:31 pm
nice one I paid 3k for mine............. get your rear shock changed before you fall out of love with her!
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 12 May 2012, 09:07:29 pm
ok will see if i can get some piccies in the morning,and also work out how to get them on here,its a nice clean one in silver/grey engine paint is chipped at front lower but can be touched up easily,small crack in fairing by rear mounting hole,hard to see,and small chip on tail peice again hard to see,tank is perfect,scorpion can fitted last year and is as new,i even have the box for it,also have a rack which is not fitted
 i was looking to spend about £2800,this one was advertised at £2795 (private sale ) i offered £2200 and he snaped my hand off,i had cash in my hand and the trailer in the back,surprised me a bit,right place at the right time :D :D 
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: pitternator on 13 May 2012, 08:02:33 am
all well and good looking at the gloss, but with a fazer its the meat in the sandwich which is important -
- exup
- suspension
- engine ( has it been jetted)
these 3 key areas are more important to how the bike will perform than any amount of fixtures and fittings...
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 13 May 2012, 01:06:07 pm
all well and good looking at the gloss, but with a fazer its the meat in the sandwich which is important -
- exup
- suspension
- engine ( has it been jetted)
these 3 key areas are more important to how the bike will perform than any amount of fixtures and fittings...

i agree with all that.....its all about the ride....bikes standard apart from the extra fixtures and fittings.ran well on test ride very smooth with good power delivery,the bars spoiled it for me but easy to change....camera on charge at moment but should be able to put piccies on later  :D
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Timabusa on 13 May 2012, 05:14:48 pm
If the bars are Renthal 758's and you think they are too wide just cut the ends down i did and they are far nmore comfortable than the standard toffee bars,the extra width makes a tremendous diiference to the riding position and comfort!

Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 13 May 2012, 06:17:07 pm
ok...ive taken some pictures,this is the first time ive tryed to post a picture on here so not sure if it will work...fingers crossed
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 13 May 2012, 06:22:25 pm
ah yes it worked.........your thoughts please peoples...good, bad or funny  :)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: AyJay on 13 May 2012, 08:32:29 pm
£2200? that's a good buy! Who needs the latest when you can get that. Such fantastic value for money.
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: ade the blade on 13 May 2012, 08:38:43 pm
ah yes it worked.........your thoughts please peoples...good, bad or funny  :)
are you sat down...........then we`ll begin ! i have never seen such a crappy piece of sh*te in all me life. tucked up big time there mate.  :groan  only kidding, ya tarty bimbo. cracking looking machine. looks like a nice buy. well done mate. have fun fettling the little darling. good health to enjoy. ride safe ;) :thumbup
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 13 May 2012, 09:06:22 pm
Just as I feared. A 54 plate for £2200
Hoped it would be shite to make me feel better but looks like you got yourself a good un.


Well done... no, really... well done....I'm pleased for you  :'(
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 14 May 2012, 06:30:59 am
ah yes it worked.........your thoughts please peoples...good, bad or funny  :)
are you sat down...........then we`ll begin ! i have never seen such a crappy piece of sh*te in all me life. tucked up big time there mate.  :groan  only kidding, ya tarty bimbo. cracking looking machine. looks like a nice buy. well done mate. have fun fettling the little darling. good health to enjoy. ride safe ;) :thumbup

cheers ade......handle bars to sort first,ill take some more pictures,parhaps from behind the bike so you lot can see the bars,i`ll start another post and see what all you other foccers have fitted  ;)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 14 May 2012, 06:33:06 am
Just as I feared. A 54 plate for £2200
Hoped it would be shite to make me feel better but looks like you got yourself a good un.


Well done... no, really... well done....I'm pleased for you  :'(

cheers kyl.........yes happy with the old girl,lots of bike for the money.....how long you had yours  :)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: ade the blade on 14 May 2012, 09:41:28 am
ah yes it worked.........your thoughts please peoples...good, bad or funny  :)
are you sat down...........then we`ll begin ! i have never seen such a crappy piece of sh*te in all me life. tucked up big time there mate.  :groan  only kidding, ya tarty bimbo. cracking looking machine. looks like a nice buy. well done mate. have fun fettling the little darling. good health to enjoy. ride safe ;) :thumbup

cheers ade......handle bars to sort first,ill take some more pictures,parhaps from behind the bike so you lot can see the bars,i`ll start another post and see what all you other foccers have fitted  ;)
:groan ...............please dont put us all through more handlebar misery, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin oh, i`ll start things off. I had handlebars fitted to her bike too. crucial bit of kit :lol
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 14 May 2012, 07:57:24 pm
ade,ive taken the picture now..........ill start a new thread as i think they are way to wide but i could be wrong......sorry mate,iam going to do it now................
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 16 May 2012, 12:30:58 am

cheers kyl.........yes happy with the old girl,lots of bike for the money.....how long you had yours  :)

I bought my latest one in mid-March this year Red. I got my first on New Years Day and had it for a whole 17 days until a guy in an Astra thought it would look better embedded in the side of his car (a story for another post).
I bought the old one back off the insurance for £95 (not a typing error) and flogged it on ebay.
The pic is the only time I had both in my possesion. I'd just got home with the new(er) one and dragged the old one out ready for the guy who bought it.
You can't really tell it's that damaged in the pic but it was proper bent and written off.
I'll leave the smart arses to ask, "which one's which then?" :lol
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Tmation on 16 May 2012, 03:55:21 am
What screen do you have fitted to the bike in the second picture?
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 16 May 2012, 06:39:56 am
What screen do you have fitted to the bike in the second picture?

nice bike kyl...£95 bargain...looks like you`ve got foam grips on the new bike,are they any good  :)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 16 May 2012, 05:10:50 pm
What screen do you have fitted to the bike in the second picture?
That's the Genuine Yamaha Touring Screen. Not as pretty as the Puig smoked double bubble fitted to the old one in pic 1 but it is awesome (no exaggeration) for high speed cruising. I get more of a draught if I leave the window open in my lounge, even when doing 100+.
It also comes with a surround which fills in the gaps around the clocks which I think makes the dash look neater.
If you're an arse in the air speed freak then it's high profile will probably knock a fair amount off your top end but for me it's perfect.
When I picked the bike up, I'll admit I thought, "That's the first thing to go", but a 35 mile ride home on the M56 and M6 had me sold and it's definitely a keeper.
The Puig was good to a point but not even in the same ball park for all-day comfort.
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 16 May 2012, 05:27:56 pm
nice bike kyl...£95 bargain...looks like you`ve got foam grips on the new bike,are they any good  :)
Similar to the screen, they were on the bike when I bought it and wouldn't have been my first choice but I was really impressed with them.
Super comfy with good throttle feel and unless I'm imagining it, really warm too. Not, heated grips warm, but miles better than standard.
As I ride all year, I've had to swap them for my old Hein Gericke heated grips so I have no use for them now.
I'd be happy for them to go to a good home for free though if collected or if P+P was covered.
I'll even give you first refusal Red  ;)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Tmation on 16 May 2012, 05:46:31 pm
I don't think it is a genuine Yamaha Touring screen , in fact I know its not, as I had one. That looks like one of the American made ones, but I have not seen one with a curve in it like that, they are normally like a barn door flat screen


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/screens002.jpg)


That is the top half of a genuine Yamaha Touring screen added to a MRA Vario, which was horrible and a waste of time as it flapped about in the wind  :(
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 16 May 2012, 06:13:05 pm
I don't think it is a genuine Yamaha Touring screen , in fact I know its not, as I had one. That looks like one of the American made ones, but I have not seen one with a curve in it like that, they are normally like a barn door flat screen
In that case Tmation, I'm happy to bow to your superior knowledge. This was one of those occasions where my logic took me to a well meaning but ultimately wrong conclusion  :rolleyes
As it was branded "Yamaha", and it clearly isn't for track days nor is it standard, I've made the massive mental leap that it was the touring screen, as it's unquestionably perfect for erm..... touring.
When I say "branded", it's got a Yamaha sticker on it.
There's no doubt that it's good quality though but short of dismantling it for any other distinguishing marks I'm afraid I can't shed any more light on it.
I can't be the only one to have one, but I'm sure even as we speak there's a Foccer out there ready to put us out of our misery.
Here's the view from the front.....
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 16 May 2012, 06:39:05 pm
nice bike kyl...£95 bargain...looks like you`ve got foam grips on the new bike,are they any good  :)
Similar to the screen, they were on the bike when I bought it and wouldn't have been my first choice but I was really impressed with them.
Super comfy with good throttle feel and unless I'm imagining it, really warm too. Not, heated grips warm, but miles better than standard.
As I ride all year, I've had to swap them for my old Hein Gericke heated grips so I have no use for them now.
I'd be happy for them to go to a good home for free though if collected or if P+P was covered.
I'll even give you first refusal Red  ;)

hi kyl....i`ll take you up on that offer,just let me know how much p&p is and how you would like to be paid and i`ll wizz the money to you.......ive been getting pins and needles in my right hand lately,these grips might help    :)
 
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: know your limitations on 16 May 2012, 06:55:12 pm
Red,
You've got a PM
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 16 May 2012, 07:14:08 pm
Red,
You've got a PM

all done kyl......details in pm
 
cant believe nobodys suggested changing hands yet  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Tmation on 17 May 2012, 06:07:59 am
Didn't want to seem rude KYL, but was hoping you might have known or had paperwork from previous owner. I have seen one with the built in clock surround before but a long time ago. Maybe Falcon or Devilsyam will recognise it.


Normally (but not always) genuine Yam stuff is properly branded, like the USA touring screen here [size=78%]




And this is the usual American barn door offering 


I like the idea of a big screen for touring and I can carry a smaller screen with me for when I arrive at destination (I have a bargin Tech 7 screen for town and back road work)[/size]
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Tmation on 17 May 2012, 06:11:55 am
OOps dont know what happened to the pictures above, but you can get the idea from here http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/windscreentests.html (http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/windscreentests.html)


http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/images/wstpic2.jpg (http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/images/wstpic2.jpg)


http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/images/wstpic3.jpg (http://www.cartestsoftware.com/fz1/images/wstpic3.jpg)
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: Falcon 269 on 17 May 2012, 06:23:07 am
Gustafson do an extensive range of touring type screens.  Could be one of theirs?
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: pitternator on 17 May 2012, 07:57:14 am
it looks very much like the gen2 yam touring screen!
I had one on my gen2 and it looks very similar...I liked it  tbh...wonder if a gen2 screen would fit a gen1 ??
Title: Re: new bike
Post by: red98 on 08 June 2012, 08:21:10 pm
ive been looking for a standard can for the thou since i bought it and have just got one on ebay along with a standard screen.....all for £17.....iam happy with that  :D