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General => General => Topic started by: robbo on 08 June 2020, 05:37:19 pm
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Read an article today that Yamaha are considering production of another incarnation of the MT09. Gets my vote for sure.
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That looks vaguely familiar :)
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Here's a news article.
Visordown: Could Yamaha be planning a retro machine based on the MT-09?.
https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/could-yamaha-be-planning-retro-machine-based-mt-09 (https://www.visordown.com/news/new-bikes/could-yamaha-be-planning-retro-machine-based-mt-09)
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Well it's a no from me. Think it looks Foccing awful! I'm really not a fan of this "2 torches taped under the fairing" look that yamaha seem to be keen on these days and tbh I'm not overly keen on the triple engine either.
It runs/goes nice enough etc in the MT09 just not my cup of tea
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OH you mean the motorbike with the fatal front suspension problem that they continued to ignore--no thanks.
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The front suspension was shit on the early ones. But I thought lessons had been learnt.
This bike, I think, is easy on the eye. At least it doesn't have a brown saddle and tyres off a tractor. :lol
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The front suspension was shit on the early ones. But I thought lessons had been learnt.
This bike, I think, is easy on the eye. At least it doesn't have a brown saddle and tyres off a tractor. :lol
If it did somebody would put it in the 'cool bike' thread. :D
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The front suspension was shit on the early ones. But I thought lessons had been learnt.
This bike, I think, is easy on the eye. At least it doesn't have a brown saddle and tyres off a tractor. :lol
If it did somebody would put it in the 'cool bike' thread. :D
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Well it's a no from me. Think it looks Foccing awful! I'm really not a fan of this "2 torches taped under the fairing" look that yamaha seem to be keen on these days and tbh I'm not overly keen on the triple engine either.
It runs/goes nice enough etc in the MT09 just not my cup of tea
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That thing is foccin awful.
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That thing is foccin awful.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw this...... :lol
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It looks like someone at Yamaha have got a rolling chassis and fired a parts bin at it,hoping it would end up looking ok.....got that one wrong. :lol
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Well of course it's a parts bin special, it's an mt09 given the cafe racer treatment. Yamaha have just taken a successful bike and created an appeal, for I imagine, not a lot of money, to people who like that style. At least it looks like a cafe racer and is usable. Unlike some of the boxer engined,brown saddled, tractor tyred stuff that is churned out nowadays under the cafe racer banner.
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It looks like someone at Yamaha have got a rolling chassis and fired a parts bin at it,hoping it would end up looking ok.....got that one wrong. :lol
That's exactly what a lot of the stuff already in the showrooms looks like IMHO.
It's miles better looking than some of those bikes I reckon.
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Well of course it's a parts bin special, it's an mt09 given the cafe racer treatment. Yamaha have just taken a successful bike and created an appeal, for I imagine, not a lot of money, to people who like that style. At least it looks like a cafe racer and is usable. Unlike some of the boxer engined,brown saddled, tractor tyred stuff that is churned out nowadays under the cafe racer banner.
I don't mean to insult your eyesight robbo, but that looks absolutely foc all like a cafe racer of any description Haha heres a few real ones to jog your memory 😉
They may be ugly and unusable but they are definitely Cafe racers
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Memory and eyesights fine thanks :thumbup Owned a few in the 60's when they were the must have in motorcycling.. My Norton was very similar to your pic, and was my only transport so had to be usable, and how you can say they look ugly, obviously must be a different era thing. I was surprised coffee didn't like it, but hey, it would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. All early cafe racers morphed out of road bikes, discounting custom framed specials, so in that spirit and allowing for modern styling, that MT09 is similar to the Dunstall kits you could buy to give cafe race styling to a Dominator/SS, or a Road Rocket,Bonneville etc.
I'd be interested in what you think of the cafe racer kit you can get for the 600 Fazer, made by a company on the Isle of Wight. I think it's great and certainly gives the bike a new lease of life,if you like that style.
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Memory and eyesights fine thanks :thumbup Owned a few in the 60's when they were the must have in motorcycling.. My Norton was very similar to your pic, and was my only transport so had to be usable, and how you can say they look ugly, obviously must be a different era thing. I was surprised coffee didn't like it, but hey, it would be boring if we all liked the same stuff. All early cafe racers morphed out of road bikes, discounting custom framed specials, so in that spirit and allowing for modern styling, that MT09 is similar to the Dunstall kits you could buy to give cafe race styling to a Dominator/SS, or a Road Rocket,Bonneville etc.
I'd be interested in what you think of the cafe racer kit you can get for the 600 Fazer, made by a company on the Isle of Wight. I think it's great and certainly gives the bike a new lease of life,if you like that style.
If you referring this this one I've attached... then I think it's awful 😅 but I can appreciate that it would be to some peoples taste.
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Personally if I were go down a cafe racer type route then something like a nicely done xjr1300 would be more my cup of tea
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Personally if I were go down a cafe racer type route then something like a nicely done xjr1300 would be more my cup of tea
I really like the way all 4 exhausts sweep under dont think I have ever seen that before.
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26233.0;attach=37690;image)
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Thanks for the link dude, yep that's the one. The half fairing was typical of the Mick Hemmings Commandos, and the colour scheme old school Yamaha race colours. I'd like to build one if I could bend my body into the shape required to ride it. :lol . That's why my Fireblade had to go.
Of the 2 pics you posted, I much prefer the twin shock as to me it's more traditional. No doubt an old age thing :) .
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Read an article today that Yamaha are considering production of another incarnation of the MT09. Gets my vote for sure.
What's that valve like thing above the pillion rests? is it a part from the bin that just wanted to be with his mates? :lol
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My mate just told me it's a remote adjuster for the shock,ok not to obtrusive though ay? ;)
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My remote adjuster is mounted off the pillion footpeg. It's got to be somewhere accessible for ease of use, otherwise there's no point in having it.
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Having never had anything to do with a remote adjuster I didn't realise what it was and of course it needs to be somewhere handy.I'm just a dick'ead, take no notice. :groan
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It beats skinning your knuckles when the C spanner lets go :lol
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My remote adjuster is mounted off the pillion footpeg. It's got to be somewhere accessible for ease of use, otherwise there's no point in having it.
Or one could just purchase a new BMW with Dynamic ESA. My active suspension is constantly monitoring road conditions and tweaking the damping to suit. It also monitors weight and automatically adjusts pre-load to suit – so no remote adjuster to faff about with, or spoil the lines of the bike. BMW – what what! :D
Anyway, I wouldn’t get too excited about that mock up. It’s rough and ready, probably knocked up by a desperate bike journo needing a story during lockdown, and even if it did originate from Yamaha, it’ll just be put out to gauge reaction.
What is more interesting is Yamaha’s talk of turbo chargers.
I mean look what turbos have done for cars
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Dynamic ESA, foc that when it goes wrong. Getting the Ohlins serviced is dear enough for me thanks.
Only ever owned one BMW.
Never spent so much keeping one motorcycle on the road in all my life. So, not a fan.
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My remote adjuster is mounted off the pillion footpeg. It's got to be somewhere accessible for ease of use, otherwise there's no point in having it.
Or one could just purchase a new BMW with Dynamic ESA. My active suspension is constantly monitoring road conditions and tweaking the damping to suit. It also monitors weight and automatically adjusts pre-load to suit – so no remote adjuster to faff about with, or spoil the lines of the bike. BMW – what what! :D
Anyway, I wouldn’t get too excited about that mock up. It’s rough and ready, probably knocked up by a desperate bike journo needing a story during lockdown, and even if it did originate from Yamaha, it’ll just be put out to gauge reaction.
What is more interesting is Yamaha’s talk of turbo chargers.
I mean look what turbos have done for cars
Its funny how beemer bikes used to look like oddballs next to their japanese counterparts. Now it the opposite. BMWs look like 'proper' motorbikes, whilst a lot of the jap bikes look like summat off a kids cartoon strip, with odd angles and bits of plastic flying off in every direction.
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Dynamic ESA, foc that when it goes wrong. Getting the Ohlins serviced is dear enough for me thanks.
Only ever owned one BMW.
Never spent so much keeping one motorcycle on the road in all my life. So, not a fan.
What bike did you have Robbo?
I am hoping BMW’s are more sorted and reliable than some of them used to be. The three year warranty helps if you are buying new or nearly new.
If I was to buy another new one, I’m not sure I’d spec ESA again. The demo bike had it, and it felt good so I specced it. But maybe it’s just another gimmick like quick shifters, auto blippers and rider modes.
Its funny how beemer bikes used to look like oddballs next to their japanese counterparts. Now it the opposite. BMWs look like 'proper' motorbikes, whilst a lot of the jap bikes look like summat off a kids cartoon strip, with odd angles and bits of plastic flying off in every direction.
Yeah it’s one of the things I like about my Beemer. It looks proper and solid – purposeful. There’s still some great looking new Japanese bikes, but then there’s a lot of stuff that is just plain awful.
Another thing about BMW is their range. They used to make a small range of odd ball bikes. Now they seem to have one of the widest ranges of all the manufactures, plus yeah the three year warranty. No longer are they purely for flat cap sporting, slipper wearing, pipe smoking wankers.
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No longer are they purely for flat cap sporting, slipper wearing, pipe smoking wankers.
Isn't that kind of character profiling tens of thousands of people you've never even met, simply by the make of motorcycle they choose to ride?
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Yeah, people like me. :lol Now where the heck did I put my pipe cleaner.
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My remote adjuster is mounted off the pillion footpeg. It's got to be somewhere accessible for ease of use, otherwise there's no point in having it.
Or one could just purchase a new BMW with Dynamic ESA. My active suspension is constantly monitoring road conditions and tweaking the damping to suit. It also monitors weight and automatically adjusts pre-load to suit – so no remote adjuster to faff about with, or spoil the lines of the bike. BMW – what what! :D
Anyway, I wouldn’t get too excited about that mock up. It’s rough and ready, probably knocked up by a desperate bike journo needing a story during lockdown, and even if it did originate from Yamaha, it’ll just be put out to gauge reaction.
What is more interesting is Yamaha’s talk of turbo chargers.
I mean look what turbos have done for cars
Motorcycles are going the same way as cars. Too expensive, cant maintain them yourself, cant reset the service lights when youve serviced it, cant be modified etc. Needs to design and sell bikes for the masses for commuting, not hipsters that ride them too show off
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Dynamic ESA, foc that when
What bike did you have Robbo?
It was an R1150GS. I bought it 4 years old with 18,000 miles on the clock. Every other year something expensive failed.The gearbox giving up the ghost at 52,000 miles, on the way home from the 2015 Bol d'Or, was the final straw. The most annoying fault was when the two bob seal on the clutch slave cylinder failed, it caused fluid to contaminate a perfectly good clutch. Not a cheap job. :'(
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Personally if I were go down a cafe racer type route then something like a nicely done xjr1300 would be more my cup of tea
Those are not cafe racers - they don't have knobbly tyres, exhaust wrap, brown leather saddles, or control cables dangling in the wind from the high-rise handlebars.
Come on Dude, get with the times :rollin
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Yeah, people like me. :lol Now where the heck did I put my pipe cleaner.
To be fair, you had kind of excluded yourself from your description of BMW riders by implying that they were no longer purely for that kind of person. But even if you do see yourself in that way (which I find highly unlikely) I'm sure that many owners would find what you wrote really quite rude and offensive.
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I wouldnt have thought so mate, in all seriousness. The days when any off us takes ourselves seriously are long gone aint they? VNAs signature is as self effacing as they come and then some. I ride an old Harley and theres still a lot of people out there riding stuff like my bike because they are wannabe outlaws etc, but I know they are wankers, they know they are wankers, and they
probably undoubtably know I'm a wanker too cos I ride one just because I like engineering from the ark. :) :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
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Quote from: VNA - BMW Wank on Today at 12:00:17 PM
Yeah, people like me. :lol Now where the heck did I put my pipe cleaner.
To be fair, you had kind of excluded yourself from your description of BMW riders by implying that they were no longer purely for that kind of person. But even if you do see yourself in that way (which I find highly unlikely) I'm sure that many owners would find what you wrote really quite rude and offensive.
BMW’s did used to, for quite some time, have a reputation of being the sensible option. The gentleman’s steed. As opposed to the brash new, look at me, go faster bad boy Japanese bikes. And have you ever seen the BMW club roll into your town? Plenty of beards, half face helmets and yes pipes.
I’m sure we can all agree that BMW has changed quite radically over the last 15 years. Well I think so. Or I dunno, I am in my 50’s now – and I’m riding a boxer. :eek
VNAs signature is as self effacing as they come and then some.
Be careful what you say in jest when a certain administrator going by the handle of BBROWN is aboot. :evil
I ride an old Harley and theres still a lot of people out there riding stuff like my bike because they are wannabe outlaws etc,
I always imagine that once you have placed your order for your new Harley at your local HD dealer, they then say “step this way Sir” and lead one through to the outlaw clothing department.
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Quote from: VNA - BMW Wank on Today at 12:00:17 PM
Yeah, people like me. :lol Now where the heck did I put my pipe cleaner.
To be fair, you had kind of excluded yourself from your description of BMW riders by implying that they were no longer purely for that kind of person. But even if you do see yourself in that way (which I find highly unlikely) I'm sure that many owners would find what you wrote really quite rude and offensive.
BMW’s did used to, for quite some time, have a reputation of being the sensible option. The gentleman’s steed. As opposed to the brash new, look at me, go faster bad boy Japanese bikes. And have you ever seen the BMW club roll into your town? Plenty of beards, half face helmets and yes pipes.
Oh that's fine then. It's ok to be rude about them.
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Oh that's fine then. It's ok to be rude about them.
Foc me. I give up. :lol
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Oh oh :eek . Recall on BMW R Nine T, 1250GS, RT, R and RS produced between 31st Oct 2019 and 30th Jan 2020. Something about iffy rear wheel spokes.
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It was an R1150GS. I bought it 4 years old with 18,000 miles on the clock. Every other year something expensive failed.The gearbox giving up the ghost at 52,000 miles, on the way home from the 2015 Bol d'Or, was the final straw. The most annoying fault was when the two bob seal on the clutch slave cylinder failed, it caused fluid to contaminate a perfectly good clutch. Not a cheap job.
Yeah, I remember at a demo in Edinburgh I was attended years ago I got talking to one of the police bikers. He had a FJR1300 and I asked him how he was getting on with it “I absolutely love it” he told me, but added that it wasn’t his bike, “my piece of crap is in for repair again” and he went on to slag off his police issue boxer. My god he hated that boxer, and it seemed to hate him going by the number of times it left him stranded and calling for assistance.
Like I say, I’m hoping BMW’s design and quality control is a good bit better than it used to be. Anyway I’m, covered by their 3 year warranty. Just need the opportunity to get out on the thing a bit more.
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Quote from: VNA - BMW Wank on Today at 12:00:17 PM
Yeah, people like me. :lol Now where the heck did I put my pipe cleaner.
To be fair, you had kind of excluded yourself from your description of BMW riders by implying that they were no longer purely for that kind of person. But even if you do see yourself in that way (which I find highly unlikely) I'm sure that many owners would find what you wrote really quite rude and offensive.
BMW’s did used to, for quite some time, have a reputation of being the sensible option. The gentleman’s steed. As opposed to the brash new, look at me, go faster bad boy Japanese bikes. And have you ever seen the BMW club roll into your town? Plenty of beards, half face helmets and yes pipes.
I’m sure we can all agree that BMW has changed quite radically over the last 15 years. Well I think so. Or I dunno, I am in my 50’s now – and I’m riding a boxer. :eek
VNAs signature is as self effacing as they come and then some.
Be careful what you say in jest when a certain administrator going by the handle of BBROWN is aboot. :evil
I ride an old Harley and theres still a lot of people out there riding stuff like my bike because they are wannabe outlaws etc,
I always imagine that once you have placed your order for your new Harley at your local HD dealer, they then say “step this way Sir” and lead one through to the outlaw clothing department.
:lol :lol :lol :thumbup
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Like I say, I’m hoping BMW’s design and quality control is a good bit better than it used to be. Anyway I’m, covered by their 3 year warranty. Just need the opportunity to get out on the thing a bit more.
Are you still not allowed out to play up there in Scotsville?
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Are you still not allowed out to play up there in Scotsville?
Who me?
I live in Scotland. Not South Africa.
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Yeah you... dunno why it autocorrected to scotsville haha
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Yeah you... dunno why it autocorrected to scotsville haha
You mean is Scotland still in lockdown?