Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: dickturpin on 01 June 2018, 07:44:41 pm
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So, yesterday I rode back from Campbeltown on the Mull of Kintyre to my home on the Yorkshire coast. About 350 miles over 11 hours as I took the scenic route.
Much as I love my fazer I do have an issue with comfort on a long haul...admitidly it would probably be he same on any bike after that duration.
I have tried putting different foam in the seat and that has helped.
So what is the secret to comfort on long trips? Share your secrets here.....
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Since last year I've used Moto Skiveez, which are similar to cycle shorts but are dedicated for motorcycling. They come in 3 styles depending on the type of bike you ride (adventure,sport,cruiser) so that the padding is in the right places. I chose the adventure, not cheap, but they do work. I've done 600 mile plus days with no problem, and I'm certainly no spring chicken. They are particularly useful if you have more than one bike, or borrow your mates, as you'll always be comfortable no matter what.
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Buy a goldwing...... or a car 😋😝
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Regular stops for me .....I have drained the tank without a stop before but generally I need a stretch at about 100 miles , depends what sort of riding , when iam up in scotland with great A roads and scenery I'll ride all day no problem , stick me on a motorway and I need a break at 50 miles......
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Buy a goldwing...... or a car 😋😝
That amount of time in a car is just as bad, I think I can sit longer on my bike than I can in my car.
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How tall are you? If you are over 6 foot then you will have problems getting comfortable all day, I can only suggest stopping for plenty of breaks.
I recently rode 537 miles in one day and by the time I got home I was about seized up - the last 50 miles was where pain set in. I had lots of breaks where I could walk around, plenty of coffee and a few smokes but as I have now quit the fags I'll just have to walk around breathing in fresh air...
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I literally today got a secondhand seat with the intention of experimenting, reshaping, adding gel inserts and recovering.
I do loads of touring. Anything beyond 200miles / 3hrs is torture! on my 600.
I think I want to go a little firmer and build the nose up a little.
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Buy an FZ1 gen2 enforced rests stops built in to the bike as standard :eek they only do about 100miles per tank of fuel if your lucky :'(
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6' tall so knee comfort is an issue later in a long journey but biggest problem for me is butt ache! I may try some sort of foam top-up cushion...those shorts mentioned look interesting though.
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Butt ache does set in quite early.
Best mod I did to my FJ1200 was to have the seat re-upholstered with an extra inch of foam added. Superbly comfortable but the downside was that I also had to raise the handlebars by an inch. Cost about £100.
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Man the f**k up :lol
948 miles is the most I've done in one hit. Coped with that by having plenty of short rest stops (coffee, fag, and back on the road), less than 100 miles between stops. Usually, I'll have a little walk around while stopped. A longer break for lunch.
I have found that merino wool boxer shorts make for a much more comfortable experience, although I still get a bit saddle sore on a trip of that length. Last time that was largely due to the heat though, that had been with me throughout a two week tour, riding every day but one. I still have the standard seat, no modifications, on mine, so could probably improve matters there a bit, but it has never seemed that bad (i.e., bad enough to spend money :eek ).
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Buy an FZ1 gen2 enforced rests stops built in to the bike as standard :eek they only do about 100miles per tank of fuel if your lucky :'(
Haha finally another gen2 owner that gets mileage as shit as mine 😅
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Ride more it's just like riding a horse if you don't do it enough you get saddle sore :'( ;) :D
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I don't really do 'manning up', but the man in me does do fixing and improving stuff. I'll have this project on the go this week...
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Ive got one of these and they do work
https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/BumBags/p1264230_5788757.aspx (https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/BumBags/p1264230_5788757.aspx)
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Ride more it's just like riding a horse if you don't do it enough you get saddle sore :'( ;) :D
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Try a Corbin. loved mine very firm to say the least but also very supportive.
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Ride more it's just like riding a horse if you don't do it enough you get saddle sore :'( ;) :D
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Try a Corbin. loved mine very firm to say the least but also very supportive.
Sounds like my Mrs :D
Reshaping the seat to suit yourself is the way to go Bretty but building up the nose is a mistake, it'll put huge amounts of pressure on your lower back.
I did a TDM seat a couple of years ago. Got one off ebay that had the front built up (that's how I know) and reshaped it to suit.
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What's that composite foam you've use and where do you get it? Getting the right density / firmness is difficult when buying foam over the internet.
Rather than build up the nose, I just want the seat pan area to have a slight backwards tilt, as I feel like I'm sat on the slope pushing me forwards.
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I do have an interesting idea for fitting some adjustability.... Cheap cheap air wedge.. And if it doesn't work, I just leave it deflated with the seat standard.
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I do have an interesting idea for fitting some adjustability.... Cheap cheap air wedge.. And if it doesn't work, I just leave it deflated with the seat standard.
Now that looks like an interesting idea...
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Did le Havre to Rome on the 1000 non stop.
Crampbuster for the throttle, decent screen for protection and slightly jacked pegs which took the weight off the base of the spine.
Did my place to Rome in 22 hrs.
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I don't think I will go to this much trouble.. but it wouldn't impossible to fit a set of air pads like this into the seat With the valves poking out the bottom of the base to allow 100% adjustability. Only £30 for the set.
This has the gears going in my head.. although I generally believe that keeping things simple is best.
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I don't think I will go to this much trouble.. but it wouldn't impossible to fit a set of air pads like this into the seat With the valves poking out the bottom of the base to allow 100% adjustability. Only £30 for the set.
This has the gears going in my head.. although I generally believe that keeping things simple is best.
Your idea got me thinking also...the air wedges on ebay sell for just a few quid and the rubber pump bulb could be left attached for adjustments without any fear of scratches. I just think the 160mm square ones maybe a tad too small.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222465362947 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F222465362947)
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mmmmmmmmm got me thinking too....
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Never mind sticking the air bags in the seat, just shove them down the back of your pants. :lol
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mmmmmmmmm got me thinking too....
A bit more than thinking going on there Red!
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Hi mr Turpin....yep had the seat and cover for a while now and came across the air bag at work yesterday , its a lumbar support for an office chair , fitting it is fairly straight forward , hard bit is position , how deep in the foam and do I change the grade on the foam that sits on top ?....good project though , not sure if it will work or not though :lol
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Keep us posted....I'm thinking slightly differently...I already have a a black sheepskin cut down to size for the front of the seat with 1'' foam underneath. I was thinking of having an inflatable cushion within that foam and have purchased the bulb inflator, just looking for the right airbag to attach.
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buy a cast iron ass cover.
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buy a cast iron ass cover.
Hey!... we'll be the envy of you all when we have adjustable comfy seats!...
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Having just got back from Germany, 1600 miles in all and yesterday about 550 in one hit, with (currently) a bad case of sciatica, can I suggest... drugs? My Dr has prescribed me Naproxen, it's like strong, slow release Ibuprofen, and despite my Tracer having a seat as hard as a park bench, NO pain.. (till the physio got hold of me this afternoon. Bent me like a pretzel, he did.)
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I almost have all the bits I need.
I cut the seat into sections to make shaping the foam a lot easier.
I'm going to have 2 adjustable air pockets under the rider seat and gel pads front and back. Then a 1" section of foam over the top and reshape it back to how I want it.
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I almost have all the bits I need.
I cut the seat into sections to make shaping the foam a lot easier.
I'm going to have 2 adjustable air pockets under the rider seat and gel pads front and back. Then a 1" section of foam over the top and reshape it back to how I want it.
Looking good. Have you seen the link I have just posted to a leather cover I'm interested in?
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Well, so far I have put off buying the leather cover when I found some concerning reviews of the seller and their products....so, I have fitted the pump bulb thing to a length of silicone tube and connected it to one of those wholly inflatable seat cushions. I just needed an alternative to have with me on those ' long journey days ' in the saddle. This arrangement folds down flat for minimal space when not in use. I may use the sheepskin on top of it.....and of course the height is adjustable with the rubber pump bulb. I feel that the main improvement will be the ability to vary the seated position on all day journeys.
I have also added extra foam to the front of the seat to reduce the tendancy to be pushed forward in the standard seat design.
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take the train or a plane.
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take the train or a plane.
It won't fit in his luggage.
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take the train or a plane.
I'll do that when I'm old, knackered and past biking!
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In a couple of weeks time ive got either a 520 mile ride and then a 300 mile ride, or a 600 mile ride followed by a gallon or two of beer with the lads when i arrive.
A mate of mine has got one of those Airhawk inflatable cushions, which im going to borrow.
I'll let you know how i get on.
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one of they wee hairy sheepskin covers.....i toured around france on my speed triple with not one sore arse....without the cover...ride about 20 mile...sore arse
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one of they wee hairy sheepskin covers.....i toured around france on my speed triple with not one sore arse....without the cover...ride about 20 mile...sore arse
Yes..that could be the answer....
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honestly mate it worked for me,,,,,when i got it delivered i though wtf is this thing :lol but it done the business
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Any chance of a link to where i can buy one of these sheepskin bike seat covers?
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I just got a black sheepskin off eBay and cut it to size.
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This company used to do them https://www.lambland.co.uk (https://www.lambland.co.uk) although cant see them on the website now. Had mine from there although it was in 2012.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/282505583348?clk_rvr_id=1579500062272&vectorid=229508&lgeo=1&item=282505583348&rmvSB=true
these are the same
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Here you go, but you're looking at a month before delivery from china. :\
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Sheepskin-Rug-Chair-Seat-Pad-Thick-Real-Cushion-Rugs-Multi-Colors/253683349093?var=552932209950&hash=item3b10b4b665:m:mc6TlbbB496xrEAc-jDOdaw (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Sheepskin-Rug-Chair-Seat-Pad-Thick-Real-Cushion-Rugs-Multi-Colors/253683349093?var=552932209950&hash=item3b10b4b665:m:mc6TlbbB496xrEAc-jDOdaw)
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Here you go, but you're looking at a month before delivery from china. :\
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Sheepskin-Rug-Chair-Seat-Pad-Thick-Real-Cushion-Rugs-Multi-Colors/253683349093?var=552932209950&hash=item3b10b4b665:m:mc6TlbbB496xrEAc-jDOdaw (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Sheepskin-Rug-Chair-Seat-Pad-Thick-Real-Cushion-Rugs-Multi-Colors/253683349093?var=552932209950&hash=item3b10b4b665:m:mc6TlbbB496xrEAc-jDOdaw)
Haha that's a genuine trump wig isn't it?
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The OE seat is fine when new, but after a few years the foam sags and bum ache quickly sets in.
I got mine upgraded and recovered many years ago by P&P seating ltd. So long ago in fact that it could do wi being recovered again. Anyway, they upgraded it by using one of their gel packs which doesn’t sag like foam, so many years later it’s still comfy mile after mile, except;
At the mo it’s too hot tae ride to work in full leathers, so just got my jeans on. I get to work and then the bike sits outside all day in the sun. So that gel pack has all day to absorb the heat from the sun. My arse gets foccing toasted on the ride back hame.
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I've just invested in a gel pad thingy.The insert can be removed and kept out of sunlight to lower the chances of heat transfer later in the day :rollin :rollin :rollin Will report results after the weekend.
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After having temps of up to 32 degrees here in Scottoland, keeping your arse dry on a motorcycle is a real challenge, let alone numbness.
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Right, 500 miles in a day then another 300 the following day using the Airhawk inflatable cushion thing. I've got to say, its really good. The limiting factor now is the pain i get from my pelvis where i broke it at Mallory about 15 years ago. I could never ride far enough for it to really kick in before, the pain from my arse always forced me to stop first. Now 160 mile non stop runs are ok.
You don't have to blow them up very much at all to get the comfort, it fact it feels flat. but once you are sat on it and get the inflation just right its bloody great. I'm going to ask him to sell it to me.
The best comfort thing ive ever used.
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That's good to know...
The is what I acquired to try on my next long jaunt....
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163085987908 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F163085987908)
Possibly use it under a sheepskin rug cover.
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did the scottish highland ride about a month ago.
did 1400 miles over 6 days.
I suffer badly with numb bum syndrome.
50 or 60 miles then I start to feel it.
tried a/hawk,gel pad etc no joy but these worked for me......
can go twice the distance before I need to get off.
https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/ (https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/)
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did the scottish highland ride about a month ago.
did 1400 miles over 6 days.
I suffer badly with numb bum syndrome.
50 or 60 miles then I start to feel it.
tried a/hawk,gel pad etc no joy but these worked for me......
can go twice the distance before I need to get off.
https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/ (https://www.bumbags4bikers.co.uk/)
I have one of these and can defiantly vouch for it!