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Title: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2018, 10:37:03 am
Any views on any of these tyres I need front and back

bridgestone bt 016
bridgestone bt s21
Michelin Pilot Power 2CT

I am not looking for a massively long lasting tyre. I only ride dry so wet grip is no factor. 
I understand that the 2CT was not available in 110 but it seems to be now
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: celticdog on 04 April 2018, 04:11:36 pm
Hi Mr Sharp, the 21's are a big improvement on the 16's but I can't help you with the other choice as I've never tried the 2CTs

This is a good article on the bridgestones-

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2018, 05:42:01 pm
Hi Mr Sharp, the 21's are a big improvement on the 16's but I can't help you with the other choice as I've never tried the 2CTs

This is a good article on the bridgestones-

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/

Thanks, have you had both 016s an s21s then
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: daviee on 04 April 2018, 06:46:17 pm
i have pr2s 2cts on mine and onle do dry unless cought in a shower but cant fault them never had them let go at all
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2018, 07:04:33 pm
i have pr2s 2cts on mine and onle do dry unless cought in a shower but cant fault them never had them let go at all
Is that Pilot Power 2CT or Pilot road with a 2CT compound
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: daviee on 04 April 2018, 07:14:41 pm
i have pilot road 2 s 2cts  a friend had the same bike with pilot power 2cts felt the same he never had a problem neither did i
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: celticdog on 04 April 2018, 07:23:52 pm
Hi Mr Sharp, the 21's are a big improvement on the 16's but I can't help you with the other choice as I've never tried the 2CTs

This is a good article on the bridgestones-

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/ (https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/)

Thanks, have you had both 016s an s21s then


Yep, definitely had more confidence in the rear when braking hard with their hypersport tyres over the battlax. Both are good tyres though imo.
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2018, 07:31:29 pm
Hi Mr Sharp, the 21's are a big improvement on the 16's but I can't help you with the other choice as I've never tried the 2CTs

This is a good article on the bridgestones-

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/ (https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/)

Thanks, have you had both 016s an s21s then


Yep, definitely had more confidence in the rear when braking hard with their hypersport tyres over the battlax. Both are good tyres though imo.
I am a bit of an odd one in that I am looking for a tyre that wears down quick because my tyres get old before they get worn and so I end up keep them too long.
I have an 023 on the front and an 021 on the back at the moment and I do under 1000 miles a year.
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: tommyardin on 04 April 2018, 08:52:54 pm
Hi Mr Sharp, the 21's are a big improvement on the 16's but I can't help you with the other choice as I've never tried the 2CTs

This is a good article on the bridgestones-

https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/ (https://ultimatemotorcycling.com/2016/03/15/bridgestone-battlax-hypersport-s21-review-5-takeaways-from-yas/)

Thanks, have you had both 016s an s21s then


Yep, definitely had more confidence in the rear when braking hard with their hypersport tyres over the battlax. Both are good tyres though imo.
I am a bit of an odd one in that I am looking for a tyre that wears down quick because my tyres get old before they get worn and so I end up keep them too long.
I have an 023 on the front and an 021 on the back at the moment and I do under 1000 miles a year.


You obviously spend much to much time maintaining the grounds at Sharp Manor.
Don't be so tight, just get another gardener to join the team, you will find 10 men work better than 9 anyway. :rolleyes
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT
Post by: fazersharp on 04 April 2018, 09:09:03 pm
i have pilot road 2 s 2cts  a friend had the same bike with pilot power 2cts felt the same he never had a problem neither did i
Thanks
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 05 April 2018, 08:07:22 pm
Just been looking into metzeler m7 rr and could be in the running
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 06 April 2018, 07:03:27 pm
Just been looking into metzeler m7 rr and could be in the running
UPDATE - I went for a set of Metzeler M7RR
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: unfazed on 06 April 2018, 08:46:40 pm
Just been looking into metzeler m7 rr and could be in the running
UPDATE - I went for a set of Metzeler M7RR
I have them on the 1000, takes a little longer than the PR3/4 to warm up, but when they do  :woot
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 06 April 2018, 09:07:37 pm
Looks like I am not going to get these properly scrubbed in until end of next week when it stops raining
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 11:25:00 am
Just been looking into metzeler m7 rr and could be in the running
UPDATE - I went for a set of Metzeler M7RR
I have them on the 1000, takes a little longer than the PR3/4 to warm up, but when they do  :woot
Interesting to hear you say that because part of the advertising that had me convinced is that they warm up quickly and good for cold days as well as hot. To do with the 20% harder centre section underlining the softer 40% edge and passing the heat from the centre to the sides. (Told you I was convinced )
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: unfazed on 07 April 2018, 12:39:57 pm
Fazersharp, they do warm up quickly but not like the Pr3/4 which appear to be up to temp in half a mile, I would not push the M7 until at least a mile. I have never lost traction with them, but their optium definitely takes a little longer.
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 12:50:03 pm
Fazersharp, they do warm up quickly but not like the Pr3/4 which appear to be up to temp in half a mile, I would not push the M7 until at least a mile. I have never lost traction with them, but their optium definitely takes a little longer.
Ok thanks 1/2 mile is fast. 1 mile is still good coming from a BT 023. 
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: unfazed on 07 April 2018, 02:51:21 pm
Fazersharp, just to add, thats on a fairly abrasive  tar and chip road from my house with a few nice left and right corners, not a nice smooth road in an estate or the like. By the time I get the 2 and a bit miles to the main road they are good and hot and ready for anything  :)
Oh some advice especially for you, they are fuck all use on ice or on hydraulic oil from tractors  :lol
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 07 April 2018, 03:47:02 pm
Oh some advice especially for you, they are fuck all use on ice or on hydraulic oil from tractors  :lol
:thumbup
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: fazersharp on 06 May 2018, 08:43:57 pm
Update - now I think they are scrubbed in  8)
Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: Jbizzle on 08 May 2018, 09:55:33 am
What do you make of them Fazersharp? 


I need to replace my PR3's soon, would like something more sporty and lighter!

Title: Re: Tyres Help bt-016/ s21/ PP 2CT metzeler m7 rr
Post by: HydrocarbonPrimate on 02 June 2018, 02:13:08 am
I had bt16s on mine, lasted 2200 miles, mostly sprited riding but nothing mental) excellent grip, sticky and soft. The 16s feel like they offer more grip than i need.


But just had them changed for the st23 as mostly using it for commuting  now rather than just weekend blasts, can definetly feel they're a harder compound, not really pushed them too much yet.