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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Disorderlypunk on 31 January 2018, 12:43:34 am
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ok just been having a search around for some new brake lines (its about time i replaced them on the old girl)
and came across wezmoto , they seem ok and read a lot of reviews all over the place as when it comes to brakes i read everything i can on even the smaller companys (in case they aint had the good chances against HEL and GOODRIDGE)
they seem to do two kits for the fzs600 a OEM standard and a full length race kit (cheaper ?)
the only difference i can see is that OEM=4lines, RACE=3lines
i can only assume this is a duel banjo on the master cylinder and a line to each caliper for the race kit (positives and negatives on this)
i have contacted them to confirm if this is the case and dont mind if it is with my future plans but if you guys know anything please share your knowledge
i told them i am on here and doing install videos etc to let everyone know the difference so hopefully they should get back to me with everything we all need to know.
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This brings back nightmares for me. :'(
I got new Venhill lines over 5 years ago and they've been absolutely fine.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,4547.msg220983.html#msg220983 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,4547.msg220983.html#msg220983)
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+1 for venhill
Racers use 2 lines as the ACU Governing Body banned cross over lines as tyre or mudguard failure could and has severed the cross over line causing crashes.
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ok just been having a search around for some new brake lines (its about time i replaced them on the old girl)
and came across wezmoto , they seem ok and read a lot of reviews all over the place as when it comes to brakes i read everything i can on even the smaller companys (in case they aint had the good chances against HEL and GOODRIDGE)
they seem to do two kits for the fzs600 a OEM standard and a full length race kit (cheaper ?)
the only difference i can see is that OEM=4lines, RACE=3lines
i can only assume this is a duel banjo on the master cylinder and a line to each caliper for the race kit (positives and negatives on this)
i have contacted them to confirm if this is the case and dont mind if it is with my future plans but if you guys know anything please share your knowledge
i told them i am on here and doing install videos etc to let everyone know the difference so hopefully they should get back to me with everything we all need to know.
You are correct the race kit comes with two front lines direct from master cylinder to each brake caliper & not three as standard setup.
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There is a discount code if you chose Hel which covers their entire range including fluid. The 2 or 3 lines is a personal choice. I kept the splitter and went for 3 lines as you know already how neat it is going to look. Two lines would obviously be cheaper.
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There is a discount code if you chose Hel which covers their entire range including fluid. The 2 or 3 lines is a personal choice. I kept the splitter and went for 3 lines as you know already how neat it is going to look. Two lines would obviously be cheaper.
Never gets old :lol
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How much do you hate the Romans. :rollin :rollin :rollin
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the only difference i can see is that OEM=4lines, RACE=3lines
I thought the OEM brakes were 1 line from the master to a splitter and then one to each caliper = 3 lines.
A race setup would be 2 lines direct from the master to the calipers.
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the only difference i can see is that OEM=4lines, RACE=3lines
I thought the OEM brakes were 1 line from the master to a splitter and then one to each caliper = 3 lines.
A race setup would be 2 lines direct from the master to the calipers.
full setup so +1 for the rear
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Anyone know the code for discount on the hel lines ?
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Anyone know the code for discount on the hel lines ?
Don't know if this approach still works:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17552.msg202525.html#msg202525 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17552.msg202525.html#msg202525)
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intresting how i mention wezmoto and everyone jumps to hel
it states in that link posted above that wez pops down and makes them for his ebay shop using there gear
there are not to many wez's in the world so im happy to guess its the same guy
unfortunatly he hasnt emailed me back yet so i have got more info on here by dinnertime than i did all day from wez lol
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Anyone know the code for discount on the hel lines ?
Don't know if this approach still works:
[url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17552.msg202525.html#msg202525[/url] ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,17552.msg202525.html#msg202525[/url])
Lovely thank you , after reading that about wez I just ordered these in red https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F130993204427 (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F130993204427)
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yep there the ones i was looking at lol
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and ordered them aswell now - same price on there website
- when your arrive could you measure the lengths for the front as i asked him to add an inch on mine for my renthals and future MC replacment
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No problem , I have renthals 758 ultra lows so I figured the standard lengths should be fine for me
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+1 for venhill
Racers use 2 lines as the ACU Governing Body banned cross over lines as tyre or mudguard failure could and has severed the cross over line causing crashes.
Sorry to be a nerd. You can use a splitter on a race bike under ACU regs, as long as the splitter is not lower than the bottom yoke.
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im running 789's and they are a bit tight with the oem lines (thank god for the splitter in this case)
the 789 streetfighters are a little bit higher and longer looking at the comparison tables so you should be fine with 758's
im sure the first renthals i bought for this bike were 758 but they were twisted to buggery - nice angle for them though
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+1 for venhill
Racers use 2 lines as the ACU Governing Body banned cross over lines as tyre or mudguard failure could and has severed the cross over line causing crashes.
Sorry to be a nerd. You can use a splitter on a race bike under ACU regs, as long as the splitter is not lower than the bottom yoke.
Ruby Racing we are nerds together
14.22 BRAKES For machines fitted with two front disc brakes, a split of the front brake lines for both front brake calipers must be made at or above the lower fork yoke
there are some bikes with the splitter underneath the lower yoke so its prob just a 'do em all' solution
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+1 for venhill
Racers use 2 lines as the ACU Governing Body banned cross over lines as tyre or mudguard failure could and has severed the cross over line causing crashes.
Sorry to be a nerd. You can use a splitter on a race bike under ACU regs, as long as the splitter is not lower than the bottom yoke.
Ruby Racing we are nerds together
14.22 BRAKES For machines fitted with two front disc brakes, a split of the front brake lines for both front brake calipers must be made at or above the lower fork yoke
there are some bikes with the splitter underneath the lower yoke so its prob just a 'do em all' solution
LOL. We certainly are. However you have the edge. I nearly searched for the relevant clause in the ACU handbook, but didn't. You however........................ :lol :lol :lol :lol
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thats why i have the handbook saved so i can refer to it for everything,
was ment to go for my race licence this year but its been put on hold as i havent moved yet
maybe next year (or do half a season practice if i get sorted)
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ok so it turns out wez did get back to me very quickly, unfortunatly my email decided it was junk and didnt let me know lol
so im guessing between the two youtubers (me and matt7chunk aka suffolk rider) its a race into making a vid on how they fit lol
holy crap ive got even more to do on that front end after recent headlight and speedo issues ---- F**K
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ok so it turns out wez did get back to me very quickly, unfortunatly my email decided it was junk and didnt let me know lol
so im guessing between the two youtubers (me and matt7chunk aka suffolk rider) its a race into making a vid on how they fit lol
holy crap ive got even more to do on that front end after recent headlight and speedo issues ---- F**K
As it happens these are the lines i bought for mine but my bike isnt on the road yet, looking forward to seeing your review on them
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Expected delivery date 10th of Feb, but I got hermes email this morning already so I reckon wez had a set (standard size) for the fazer already made up , so should get it before that date.
Went for the 2 line front setup, so need to decide where to route the Speedo cable (usually mounted along the splitter overline) any ideas from 2 line users?
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was ment to go for my race licence this year but its been put on hold as i havent moved yet
maybe next year (or do half a season practice if i get sorted)
Do it! It'll be one of the best things you ever did. I raced with BEMSEE from 2007 to 2009 in Powerbikes, it was awesome. Best way to be terrified and excited at the same time. Be warned, it's hugely addictive.
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Replaced my front a few years ago with HEL two lines direct with a longer double banjo which got rid of a few ounces of weight which was the splitter which is an ugly looking steel bar.
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+1 for venhill
Racers use 2 lines as the ACU Governing Body banned cross over lines as tyre or mudguard failure could and has severed the cross over line causing crashes.
Sorry to be a nerd. You can use a splitter on a race bike under ACU regs, as long as the splitter is not lower than the bottom yoke.
Ruby Racing we are nerds together
14.22 BRAKES For machines fitted with two front disc brakes, a split of the front brake lines for both front brake calipers must be made at or above the lower fork yoke
there are some bikes with the splitter underneath the lower yoke so its prob just a 'do em all' solution
LOL. We certainly are. However you have the edge. I nearly searched for the relevant clause in the ACU handbook, but didn't. You however........................ :lol :lol :lol :lol
Happy to be put right with this one! For any interested parties you can download the ACU handbook here-
https://www.acu.org.uk/Uploaded/1/Documents/2018%20Handbook/ACU%20HANDBOOK_2018_lo.pdf (https://www.acu.org.uk/Uploaded/1/Documents/2018%20Handbook/ACU%20HANDBOOK_2018_lo.pdf)
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i will say also check the Race organisers (pdmcc for example) rules aswell as for some unknown reason some tracks/clubs have rules that are not in the ACU handbook (it sounds nuts i know but thats racing)
if you think the ACU handbook is too big to read what ever you do dont get into rallying the MSA is larger and much harder to read
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what a pain in the arse that was
if i did it the old fashioned way i would have been fine but decided to use my old 'one man bleed system'
after a lot of messing around and nothing going to plan i found out it was broken doing it the old fashioned way it went great
- will invest in one of those vacuum systems at some point
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Lol I just fitted mine yesterday but gave up on bleeding the fronts , the rear went well and bleed easily but no joy on front , vacuum pump in the post now , sorry punk totally forgot to measure the standard lines
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no worries mate i forgot to measure mine aswell and what a ball ache -i made my own vacuum pump in a way that i dont show in the video because it is just unsafe for human consumption (i cant describe how without opening up to rude jokes) - mine actually seem a bit long to be honest but if i do a front end swap it might be to my advantage
https://youtu.be/p2fBH8BaOnw (if i just posted this then it might not be online)
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damn i forgot to use the monty python splitter scene
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Nice video mate , I wanted to film my install bit I'm in a shed with limited space lol the last thing people want to see is me trying to squeeze round the bike and super close ups of fairing , it hard enough in there without my helmet on lol , must get the missus her own motorcycle shed haha