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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: feral kid on 31 March 2017, 01:53:29 pm
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Hello All,
I would like to buy a louder exhaust can for my FZS600 and I have couple of questions.
1. Is it possible to buy universal exhaust can that will fit different type of bikes, in case I would like to use it on my next bike?
2. Will my bike use more petrol with a custom can? If yes how much more can it be? Currently it does around 43mpg (6.6l\100km)
3. Will it increase it's power?
4. Someone recommended me Delkovic cans. Is the brand any good?
5. Can anyone recommend something decent for around £100? I'm looking for something with a removable baffle. And I don't want it to be too loud. And probably made of steel, not a carbon fibre. Can be aftermarket.
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Have you thought about second hand?
I picked up a Scorpion end can with link pipe for £50
Not sure about universal but don't expect any real change in fuel consumption or power
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Considering my budget I am leaning towards getting a second hand one. How can I find one that will fit to my FZS600? What do I need to look for? Is it the fitment type, sleeve length or what?
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Fuel economy wont realy change unless your riding habits change to make the most of the new music.
All cans can be made to fit other bikes. The issue is the link pipe. This is the bit that is specific to your bike and links the end can to the down pipes.
If you look on fleabay you will find people selling second hand cans (with the pipe) for Fazers. Alternatively, get any can and ask a local fabricator to make you a new link pipe though this will probably cost a lot more.
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Blueflame do a nice pipe for an FZS600, several of us have one, not too expensive, nice sound.
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Love my scorpion exhaust, sounds like a proper racer with it :lol
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Yep I know my Scorpion sounds right because the missus hates it. hehe
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Have a butchers on YouTube for "darrsi Quill" and "darrsi SP Engineering".
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Have you thought about second hand?
I picked up a Scorpion end can with link pipe for £50
Not sure about universal but don't expect any real change in fuel consumption or power
If I find a good deal on eBay, how can I check if the can is compatible with FZS600 2002;
For example how can I check if this one will be compatible:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SV-650-BLUE-FLAME-EXHAUST-DUEL-PORT-51MM-INLET-DIAMETER-WILL-FIT-OTHER-BIKES-/152492392224?hash=item2381413f20:g:zrIAAOSwLEtYjxa9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SV-650-BLUE-FLAME-EXHAUST-DUEL-PORT-51MM-INLET-DIAMETER-WILL-FIT-OTHER-BIKES-/152492392224?hash=item2381413f20:g:zrIAAOSwLEtYjxa9)
is it just a link pipe that need to have a right diameter? If yes; what is it for FZS600 2002?
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Yes you need the link pipe to be Fazer down pipe diameter one end and the other end needs to be the can entry diameter.
I had to buy 2 new clams so will look at it today for sizes and post them, if the new end can diameter is too big you can add a sleeve to match the link can, in my youth we used to cut them out of tin cans!!
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Have you thought about second hand?
I picked up a Scorpion end can with link pipe for £50
Not sure about universal but don't expect any real change in fuel consumption or power
If I find a good deal on eBay, how can I check if the can is compatible with FZS600 2002;
For example how can I check if this one will be compatible:
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SV-650-BLUE-FLAME-EXHAUST-DUEL-PORT-51MM-INLET-DIAMETER-WILL-FIT-OTHER-BIKES-/152492392224?hash=item2381413f20:g:zrIAAOSwLEtYjxa9[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SV-650-BLUE-FLAME-EXHAUST-DUEL-PORT-51MM-INLET-DIAMETER-WILL-FIT-OTHER-BIKES-/152492392224?hash=item2381413f20:g:zrIAAOSwLEtYjxa9[/url])
is it just a link pipe that need to have a right diameter? If yes; what is it for FZS600 2002?
Depends if you already have aftermarket downpipes or OEM ones or not, as link pipes can differ in size.
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Yes you need the link pipe to be Fazer down pipe diameter one end and the other end needs to be the can entry diameter.
I had to buy 2 new clams so will look at it today for sizes and post them, if the new end can diameter is too big you can add a sleeve to match the link can, in my youth we used to cut them out of tin cans!!
That would be helpful, thanks.
Depends if you already have aftermarket downpipes or OEM ones or not, as link pipes can differ in size.
I have original downpipes, nothing modified.
So I guess the best option is to look for a can that is designed for FZS600 or at least can that comes with a link pipe which has a right diameter. What would it be; few mm larger than the exhaust pipe?
Is it possible to find an exhaust can with a right opening diameter which will be possible to install without a link pipe?
If I find a can without a link pipe, where can I get one? Is it possible to get it from the manufacturer (like Delkevic or Black Widow)?
If the can is road legal with a baffle on; does it mean that if I will be riding a bike without; I'm running a risk of being stopped by police and getting a ticket?
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Ive run a baffleless shorty can for a couple of years now, very noisey but thats the point i guess, sometimes i consider changing it for a slightly longer to dull the sound a little but it hasent happened yet
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The stock exhaust is a single piece, can and link pipe permantently joined together. When you go after market the can and link pipe are separate. The can will be straight and fit pretty much any bike with the matching diameter pipe at the bottom. The link pipe will be specific to the bike, it needs to be the right diameter and shape to join the downpipes to the end can in the right place.
You can either look for a kit that has the can and FZS600 link pipe together, or look to buy the link pipe first and then get any can you want to go with it.
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One more thing, if you go 2nd hand, make sure you get the baffle to go in the can for MOT time, even if you plan to take it out for the rest of the time.
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I must be getting old. The standard can's loud enough for me.
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I must be getting old. The standard can's loud enough for me.
Same for me, but the big question is: Is it loud enough for all the dickheads in their cars to hear you, as they certainly don't see you?
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It don't think it matters how loud it is, they won't hear it if you're behind them or travelling towards them cos the noise comes out the back of the bike. Besides which they're likely to have their windows closed and the radio on. Dozy pedestrians may do but nowadays most of them have earphones in. I have to admit it kind of amuses me the way motorcyclist talk about car drivers as a the enemy when 95% of us are also car drivers. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of bad drivers about but there are also plenty of idiot motorcyclists and most motorcycle accidents outside of built up areas involve no other vehicles.
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Never been a fan of louder pipes myself - dont see the point. How often do we comment on twat boyracer car drivers with baked bean size noisy exhausts, -----------stones and glass houses.
The excuse about car drivers hearing us is just a smoke screen and pointless. Unless you do what I have done here
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Hmmm.... I think it's lost something aesthetically, i.e. It looks foccin' awful :lol and as you're hurtling along at full racing snake speed, the noise is still going out behind you Not to mention what it's doing to your back pressures, added to the 180° bend in the pipe you may end up with running issues.
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Whilst I'm filtering along traffic I do like to blip the throttle and you can see faces in the wing mirrors of cars suddenly become aware that you are there.
I have a motad venom on my 600 with the baffle still in, it's not loud but has a nice deep resonance, just enough to gain attention from cagers who might be unaware that you're there.
Other than that the benefits are purely cosmetic in my view.
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Whilst I'm filtering along traffic I do like to blip the throttle and you can see faces in the wing mirrors of cars suddenly become aware that you are there.
I have a motad venom on my 600 with the baffle still in, it's not loud but has a nice deep resonance, just enough to gain attention from cagers who might be unaware that you're there.
Other than that the benefits are purely cosmetic in my view.
You will probably see them mutter words of complete disrespect as well.
I cannot stand it when bikers give it large with the throttle for their own fun and intimidation.
A bloke did it to me a few years ago whilst i was filtering through traffic on the North Circ. and i was very close to just stopping and screwing his crash helmet into his jacket.
Absolutely no need for it, and nobody appreciates it whatsoever. I've chatted about this to car driving workmates and as soon as this action is mentioned they suddenly think ALL bikers are wankers.
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I use it sometimes instead of the horn in situations where I think I have not been seen and to use the horn would sound a bit over the top.
For instance on Sunday a girl was trying to reverse park :rolleyes and was looking over her left shoulder, her window was down and I could see that her next action was likely to be yanking straight back out so as I slowly trundled up I gave a little blib to get her attention.
Also going around buses that have just dropped off passengers ( as well as giving a wide birth )
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I use it sometimes instead of the horn in situations where I think I have not been seen and to use the horn would sound a bit over the top.
For instance on Sunday a girl was trying to reverse park :rolleyes and was looking over her left shoulder, her window was down and I could see that her next action was likely to be yanking straight back out so as I slowly trundled up I gave a little blib to get her attention.
Also going around buses that have just dropped off passengers ( as well as giving a wide birth )
But you're on about avoiding potential accidents, whereas just revving the nuts off the engine just to say "Here I come, get out of my way" comes across as rather arrogant.
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I use it sometimes instead of the horn in situations where I think I have not been seen and to use the horn would sound a bit over the top.
For instance on Sunday a girl was trying to reverse park :rolleyes and was looking over her left shoulder, her window was down and I could see that her next action was likely to be yanking straight back out so as I slowly trundled up I gave a little blib to get her attention.
Also going around buses that have just dropped off passengers ( as well as giving a wide birth )
But you're on about avoiding potential accidents, whereas just revving the nuts off the engine just to say "Here I come, get out of my way" comes across as rather arrogant.
There is some twat round my way who rides around going burrp burrp burrp burrrp short sharp blasts instead of a steady - or fast if you like, acceleration then a gear change and you can hear the Foc for miles
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You know what.
The great joy of forums is that no matter what you say to give an enlightened response to a question it seems you're gonna piss someone off or someone else comes across as the font of all knowledge and pisses on your response.
So what do we do, ride along in complete silence for fear of upsetting noise sensitive people then get taken out by a cage driver who's u turned in front of you and forgot to check his or hers mirrors.
Or do we blip our throttles and pip our horns and hope we don't upset mr angry.
And it's not revving an engine for the sake of revving it it's letting someone know you're there, which is exactly why you're supposed to sound your horn and flash your lights so I can see no reason that a quick blip of a throttle could of be used in the same way.
We should get things into perspective, I never said I rev the nuts off my bike just to let someone know i'm there,blipping the throttle is not revving the nuts off it,and I don't consider it arrogant, neither do I ride around blipping the throttle just to piss off the neighbours. I'm too long in the tooth for that shit.
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You know what.
The great joy of forums is that no matter what you say to give an enlightened response to a question it seems you're gonna piss someone off or someone else comes across as the font of all knowledge and pisses on your response.
So what do we do, ride along in complete silence for fear of upsetting noise sensitive people then get taken out by a cage driver who's u turned in front of you and forgot to check his or hers mirrors.
Or do we blip our throttles and pip our horns and hope we don't upset mr angry.
And it's not revving an engine for the sake of revving it it's letting someone know you're there, which is exactly why you're supposed to sound your horn and flash your lights so I can see no reason that a quick blip of a throttle could of be used in the same way.
We should get things into perspective, I never said I rev the nuts off my bike just to let someone know i'm there,blipping the throttle is not revving the nuts off it,and I don't consider it arrogant, neither do I ride around blipping the throttle just to piss off the neighbours. I'm too long in the tooth for that shit.
Apologies if that sounded like I was taking a dig at you, 'cos it wasn't intended.
I was on about the blatant people, like the one I mentioned earlier before, who really do go way over the top, almost to the point of bullying others on the road with mega loud unbaffled end cans on until you get out of their way.
You tend to get a lot of them around the roads near the Ace Café on a Sunday!
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Ok no worries. :)
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I don't want to fan the flames here but doesn't a quick pip on the horn get someone's attention better and more immediately than a randomly revving bike engine if they're doing or about to do something dodgy? You don't need to sit on the horn aggressively just to get their attention unless they're being a total tosser of course. The thing is, to blip the throttle you either have to be in neutral or have/pull the clutch in, so in most moving situations it's not ideal anyway. I tend to avoid flashing my lights cos people just assume you're giving way to them.
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I don't want to fan the flames here but doesn't a quick pip on the horn get someone's attention better and more immediately than a randomly revving bike engine if they're doing or about to do something dodgy? You don't need to sit on the horn aggressively just to get their attention unless they're being a total tosser of course. The thing is, to blip the throttle you either have to be in neutral or have/pull the clutch in, so in most moving situations it's not ideal anyway. I tend to avoid flashing my lights cos people just assume you're giving way to them.
Could always get a Harley like the one that was just behind me on the way home, then people can hear you from about 10 streets ahead.
His neighbours must absolutely hate him if he starts really early in the mornings!
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Here's a link to a slip on universal exhaust. Stainless steel, removable baffle.
http://m.ebay.ie/itm/Universal-GP-steel-exhaust-tailpipe-R-Tech-for-motorcycle-motorbike-/252826694760?nav=SEARCH (http://m.ebay.ie/itm/Universal-GP-steel-exhaust-tailpipe-R-Tech-for-motorcycle-motorbike-/252826694760?nav=SEARCH)
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Never been a fan of louder pipes myself - dont see the point. How often do we comment on twat boyracer car drivers with baked bean size noisy exhausts, -----------stones and glass houses.
The excuse about car drivers hearing us is just a smoke screen and pointless. Unless you do what I have done here
how does your bike cope with the back pressure problem with the front firing system... :lol