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Title: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 04:34:51 pm
So i have a spare bike and after doing two trackdays last year I thought I would gather up some spare plastics and a tank and make a set of track fairings and take off the original blue plastics and keep safe incase I wish to revert back to tidy roadbike.

So first was the collection of plastics and tank

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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 04:38:04 pm
Odd line up
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 04:42:07 pm
A steel frame for the Gixxer tail end
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 04:43:45 pm
Then to flatten the front fairing, blank out the light holes
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Post by: dazza on 05 February 2017, 05:32:44 pm
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Title: Re: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 05:56:19 pm
Filled in with form foam
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:00:34 pm
I got lucky , the Gixxer tail slipped over perfect, 
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:03:36 pm
Fibre glass , filler , what else is there to do in January
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:05:16 pm
Frame fitted and stuck
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:07:03 pm
Seat filled in
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:08:43 pm
Looks ok
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:11:26 pm
Poor bike,,xxxx
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:14:41 pm
Lots of filler,sanding , well a bit ,does not have to be perfect
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:16:26 pm
Rattle cans !!!!! yes , five cans of yellow,,, yum yum, I like the smell in my shed ,lol

I decided aerosols would be fine and easy for me to repair if needed
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:21:58 pm
Sill picking out Yellow bogies today  :eek   :lol
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Post by: Dudeofrude on 05 February 2017, 06:22:34 pm
Looks awesome. A job well done 🖒🖒
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Post by: Chris on 05 February 2017, 06:24:32 pm
Looks good, looking forward to seeing more as it progresses  8)

Chris
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:25:34 pm
Bright yellow

Then black stipe
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:28:45 pm
A bit rough and ready but from the other side of the road it will look ,,umm ok  :lol
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 06:31:13 pm
That's it up until today, stickers and pinstripe arriving daily,

Cleaned the rear brake caliper ,degreasing everything now,makes less mess when changing wheels to wets,,yes I have also a spare set of wheels with wet tyres on ready,needed them at Cadwell in November , cold and very very wet
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Post by: dazza on 05 February 2017, 07:27:48 pm
You have redeemed yourself by painting it yellow :D
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 February 2017, 08:22:26 pm
You have redeemed yourself by painting it yellow :D

Thanks you lovely old Fokker

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Post by: ogri48 on 05 February 2017, 08:57:14 pm
Bloody brilliant bill , great idea too!
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Post by: slimwilly on 07 February 2017, 05:37:17 pm
has anyone come up with a mod for retaining the rear brake caliper holder still allowing for it to slide when adjusting the chain ? thay=ts when you remove the rear wheel of course
Title: Re: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: red98 on 08 February 2017, 07:47:27 pm
Nice job mr willy   :thumbup ..........i am a bit puzzled though....why would you want to restrict a track bike  ?
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Post by: tony_d123 on 11 February 2017, 05:02:02 pm
Great idea. Did you not know it's the law that you have to have speed blocks on yellow Yamahas though?  :lol
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Post by: slimwilly on 12 February 2017, 12:16:11 pm
Decals are on going
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Post by: fireblake on 13 February 2017, 10:12:17 am
Hey Slim, what a great idea. How much did you pay for the track plastics and tank? I did 3 track days last year and have been thinking of changing the Fazer for something more track focused. I might just save the money and do what you've done




Mickey.
Title: Re: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: slimwilly on 13 February 2017, 09:19:39 pm
Started doing the Speed block pattern but in an easier style also put wheel tape on. I am quite pleased what you can do for such little money.

The plastics are all originals I have collected from breakers , see first posts,, I then aerosol painted them.

Title: Re: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: slimwilly on 13 February 2017, 09:29:00 pm
Hey Slim, what a great idea. How much did you pay for the track plastics and tank? I did 3 track days last year and have been thinking of changing the Fazer for something more track focused. I might just save the money and do what you've done




Mickey.

Hi Mickey, I paid about £240 for all the parts and tank, £50 for paint .  I had some raised bars on the Fazer so I have turned them over to get a bit more of a racey riding position, works well. might move to clip ons.
See the first posts and see the panels. I have done three track days on it with the standard panels and it rides real nice, I love it.
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Post by: slimwilly on 14 February 2017, 07:47:36 pm
So the kiddy bit,,stickers, yes stickers to break it up a bit ,
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Post by: slimwilly on 14 February 2017, 07:52:01 pm
And the finished bike,,i think,,,apart from some maintenance
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Post by: slimwilly on 14 February 2017, 07:56:38 pm
I have also got myself some spare wheels complete with the wet's I bought at  a wet Cadwell park , they are amazing to ride on in very very wet conditions, I could not believe how fast you can ride with them on with standing water everywhere
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Post by: dazza on 14 February 2017, 08:01:48 pm
Looks fantastic Slim, really striking, got to paint the bellypan yellow now dude. I had a black one on mine and it just used to blend in. Ayellow one just jumps out on you and contrasts so well with the black frame and engine.....Do it....Do it  :lol
Title: Re: Making a track bike from my Fz1s
Post by: slimwilly on 14 February 2017, 08:31:05 pm
You my old tich are correct,,i forgot I still have to make one,,yes , make one, the blue one on there is my tidy one, its coming off,,may use it as a mould and extend it,,it sure will finish it off, I will try with fibre glass, as its hot underneath near the pipes, will try and make a race safe one 2"deep and complete,, a bit of a head scratcher I think
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Post by: jerbear on 15 February 2017, 08:14:10 am
Looks excellent job Bill, will pop over and give it full inspection when weather picks up  :)
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Post by: slimwilly on 15 February 2017, 10:51:56 am
Hi Jerbear !!!!!  I forgot about you me old mucker,  sure , pop over , I have the bike road legal, new mot etc so may call by while having a shakedown run, see what falls off,,lol :lol

Just got to laquer coat some of it to stop rubbing pinstripes,   

Be time to get the bikes out soon ,
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Post by: jerbear on 15 February 2017, 06:35:30 pm
Always welcome Bill, yes, can't wait for some decent weather.
If you come on the Fazer ...give us a nod....get the sunglasses on  :eek
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Post by: tony_d123 on 15 February 2017, 06:50:33 pm
I like it and you will have loads of fun riding around the outside of all the race reps.

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Post by: slimwilly on 18 February 2017, 06:55:32 pm
Took it for a shakedown this afternoon , it went well, looking for the dry spots on the road.

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Post by: fireblake on 19 February 2017, 08:38:07 am
Love it😍
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Post by: slimwilly on 26 February 2017, 10:39:51 pm
Made up a fibre glass belly pan, here it is before finishing

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Post by: tommyardin on 26 February 2017, 11:55:25 pm
Hi Slim, Nice job looks really cool.  I know you can MOT a bike as a daytime ride only, so no lights needed does that also go for a rear brake light as I noticed you don't appear to have one?
Just asking the question as I'm not sure I would not want to ride on the road without one, seems a sure fire way of getting tail ended.
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Post by: bludclot on 27 February 2017, 09:08:50 am


I think it looks terrific - good work! It's truly amazing what can be achieved with some time and good ideas.
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Post by: slimwilly on 27 February 2017, 09:37:34 pm
Hi Slim, Nice job looks really cool.  I know you can MOT a bike as a daytime ride only, so no lights needed does that also go for a rear brake light as I noticed you don't appear to have one?
Just asking the question as I'm not sure I would want to ride on the road without one, seems a sure fire way of getting tail ended.
I am not sure Tommy, I got the MOT done before I started in January,,lots of bikes with no lights on the roads ,  have been out for a spin and forgot to put my barend mirror on, that would be a help.

A couple of skims of filler and paint on the pan , should get it on tomorrow night. :)
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Post by: tommyardin on 28 February 2017, 09:03:50 am
Hi Slim, Nice job looks really cool.  I know you can MOT a bike as a daytime ride only, so no lights needed does that also go for a rear brake light as I noticed you don't appear to have one?
Just asking the question as I'm not sure I would want to ride on the road without one, seems a sure fire way of getting tail ended.
I am not sure Tommy, I got the MOT done before I started in January,,lots of bikes with no lights on the roads ,  have been out for a spin and forgot to put my barend mirror on, that would be a help.

A couple of skims of filler and paint on the pan , should get it on tomorrow night. :)


It looks absolutley brilliant who would ever have believed it started of life as a tourer.  :woot :thumbup
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Post by: slimwilly on 28 February 2017, 07:42:45 pm
Got the belly pan painted and fitted
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Post by: jerbear on 28 February 2017, 09:48:43 pm
Bloody hell Bill, with all your fibreglass skills you'll be knocking up a Reliant Robin soon  :rolleyes
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Post by: dazza on 01 March 2017, 01:54:41 am
This bike is starting to remind me of one of my old girlfriends. In the right light or from far enough away, she looked pukka.  :lol
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Post by: slimwilly on 01 March 2017, 06:46:48 am
Bloody hell Bill, with all your fibreglass skills you'll be knocking up a Reliant Robin soon  :rolleyes
Or a golf buggy,, I messed up really, only second time I have tried fibreglass, I used the finish thick coat instead of the thinner resin to paste the fibreglass, so its thick and glulike, so it had a rough finish so I smoothed it with isopon. :lol

I am out with it on Saturday at Pembrey race circuit doing my ACU race licence course and riding with the clubs test day there on Sunday.
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Post by: slimwilly on 06 March 2017, 02:02:26 pm
Well that went well, now have an ACU race licence  :eek

Did some good wet riding on track,sorted a few of them boy racers out,,and some not,,some guys ride so fast and smooth, lovely to have them sail past and crank it over into a corner in front of you,,Fazer went real well, on speed,acceleration it is fine, fast enough for me, front wheel up loads of times.
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Post by: slimwilly on 11 April 2017, 01:03:36 pm
Well i did my first race ,Oulton Park, test day went well,,then race day Saturday 8th April,
Got my lap times down to 2.03 minutes, lap speed average 78 mph , I was well happy with that.
I have never ridden that fast on track before,sure makes you concentrate.

And the bike went real well,apart from brake judder in second race, must have cooked the pads
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Post by: slimwilly on 12 April 2017, 11:07:33 am
a good lean
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Post by: dazza on 12 April 2017, 12:07:03 pm
Brilliant stuff Slim. So what you using on the road now ? The Blade ?
Am down your way this weekend with my brother on his Frankensteined ZX9R.......Wanna race ?  :lol
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Post by: slimwilly on 12 April 2017, 10:10:49 pm
Hi Dazza, i have not been on the roads lately,what with building this bike,and of course on track time.

But yes the blade is on the road,,give me a call , may be able to get out for a spin.

Maybe look up Ogri !!
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Post by: slimwilly on 15 May 2017, 07:07:53 pm
Two dry days racing at Donnington Park , Fazer went well , by no means last, 26th from 38 riders. We form a group of riders with similar lap times so you have to keep repassing them straight away , frighten them back.lol :lol. Had an R1 pass me though, took two laps to retrain him.

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Post by: slimwilly on 15 May 2017, 07:12:37 pm
First pic you can see them trying to pass me,
second pic they are following me down the craner curves
and third pic is the chequered flag with them still behind me. Bloody brilliant fun.

On second to last lap I thought I was getting a bit near my limit so thought if no one too close to me I will be ok,,so I took a look behind and hell,,right there were 8 bikes, hell I had to hold on tight and make no mistakes, it worked though,,
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Post by: slimwilly on 07 June 2017, 06:43:51 pm
Well I am spending a couple of days in hospital, had a brilliant 3 days racing at Caldwell park, then last race,last lap the bike behind decides to do a suicide move inside a corner taking my back end out, me up in the air and flat onto road, two broken ribs, a bit sore.
Bike both sides and top so need some spares, will kiss the next two races and my trip to assen to see moto gp
I will be back🤣


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Post by: dazza on 07 June 2017, 07:47:31 pm
Sorry to hear this Slim. There are some things that are out of your control, this sounds like one of them. Hope you mend soon and get back at it.
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Post by: slimwilly on 08 June 2017, 01:50:21 pm
Yes, miss a couple of races but will fix me and the bike, cheers dazza
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Post by: tony_d123 on 08 June 2017, 10:19:34 pm
What a shame, but keep at it. It's great to see someone riding something other than race reps :)

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Post by: slimwilly on 09 June 2017, 11:22:03 am
Yes,spoilt a good weekend, had 4 good races inthe two days before the accident.
We all think we go fast on the road but until you get on the grid with 35 other bikes Ang go into that first bend then you realise what a bike will do.
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Post by: slimwilly on 09 June 2017, 04:23:41 pm
This is oulton park
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/20170609_114443_zpsbvxp44nh.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/20170609_114443_zpsbvxp44nh.jpg.html)
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Post by: slimwilly on 09 June 2017, 04:30:16 pm
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/WP_20170517_18_19_48_Pro_zpsnnou4gp5.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/WP_20170517_18_19_48_Pro_zpsnnou4gp5.jpg.html)
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Post by: slimwilly on 09 June 2017, 04:34:48 pm
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/WP_20170517_18_20_39_Pro_zps71n5ndlz.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/WP_20170517_18_20_39_Pro_zps71n5ndlz.jpg.html)
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Post by: slimwilly on 10 June 2017, 12:47:29 am
Those last three were donnington park


This is the top of the mountain at Cadwell, the bike behind took me out a lap later

(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/FB_IMG_1497050976439_zpsrmyivrss.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/FB_IMG_1497050976439_zpsrmyivrss.jpg.html)
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Post by: Dudeofrude on 10 June 2017, 09:49:49 am
Just out of interest do you get any compensation from the guy who crashed into you? I know you take risks with racing but since none of it was your fault and presumably your gonna be at a financial disadvantage then I didn't know if he had an obligation to compensate you at all?
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Post by: slimwilly on 11 June 2017, 07:35:03 am
I have not asked as I guess the rider will always deny it was his fault.


A mate tracked down the blokes Facebook on which he claims he was punted off by the fazer ,it is open page so I asked how he got punted off to which he answered that I rode dangerous lines a rode a bike too fast for me, lol


All the lap times are on the club's results page and the rider did his fastest lap of the weekend on the lap he hit me and the one previous, so he had not been that speed before and then he got brave,,,chnt
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Post by: fireblake on 11 June 2017, 02:11:57 pm
What a chnt . I hope you recover quickly and with no long term effect's. I'm doing a track day at Caldwell next month. Any tips?


Mickey
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Post by: slimwilly on 11 June 2017, 07:52:42 pm
Tips, haha, we had practice day on Friday,  fastish but careful, 1.53


First race Saturday 1.51
Second race 1.46 and same both races Sunday.


We are on race tyres 190 ...60s so a very big sidewall and using warmers, the road tyres 50  or 55  are less tall bigger flat area for roadriding. Smaller sidewalls.
Anyway it's a fast track off the start, needs power,back off slightly into the first uphill lefthander but push as soon as you turn in, it's very safe but the next right is blind so turn very fast two corners very late apex, keep the speed up.up to fifth flavour back straight, brake at 250 marker, it's fast haha, make corner right then it speeds up and up, on the power with a good lean,,,you will love it, brilliant f
Track.

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Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 12 June 2017, 09:22:01 pm
Well I am spending a couple of days in hospital, had a brilliant 3 days racing at Caldwell park, then last race,last lap the bike behind decides to do a suicide move inside a corner taking my back end out, me up in the air and flat onto road, two broken ribs, a bit sore.
Bike both sides and top so need some spares, will kiss the next two races and my trip to assen to see moto gp
I will be back


Late to the party, but just spotted this. Unlucky mate, but ribs are minor  :lol  I would have doubted there are any claims to be had; all at rider's risk?


Good to see you really getting into this, wish I could afford to, financially and physically! Always wanted to do Donington since watching Schwartz and Merkel battling it out - GSXR and VF - oh, aeons ago  :rolleyes
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Post by: slimwilly on 12 June 2017, 11:42:07 pm
Yes Nick it is crazy fun, with these tyres we are cornering at amazing speeds.
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Post by: 5LV on 14 June 2017, 12:24:52 pm
you need to report rider to your club secretary. you had an orange bib on which means novice racer. if he doesn't understand that and tried to be a hero (or not be beaten by a novice more likely) then he is a danger on track and should not be allowed to compete.
Racing is risky.........but you don't need stupid chnts making it dangerous too.
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Post by: fireblake on 19 June 2017, 08:12:04 am
Tips, haha, we had practice day on Friday,  fastish but careful, 1.53


First race Saturday 1.51
Second race 1.46 and same both races Sunday.


We are on race tyres 190 ...60s so a very big sidewall and using warmers, the road tyres 50  or 55  are less tall bigger flat area for roadriding. Smaller sidewalls.
Anyway it's a fast track off the start, needs power,back off slightly into the first uphill lefthander but push as soon as you turn in, it's very safe but the next right is blind so turn very fast two corners very late apex, keep the speed up.up to fifth flavour back straight, brake at 250 marker, it's fast haha, make corner right then it speeds up and up, on the power with a good lean,,,you will love it, brilliant f
Track.
I'll try to remember all off that but I've a brain like a sieve. I'm doing a track day the week before at Bedford to ease me into Cadwell, so hopefully I'll get in to the swing quickly.
All the best again for your recovery.


Mickey
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Post by: kitcrazy on 19 June 2017, 07:02:18 pm
Looks great slim love the colour mate.
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Post by: slimwilly on 05 July 2017, 07:35:00 am
Thanks Mel,
Now i have recovered, ribs 90 % no pain, will miss this weekend races at castle combed, Wiltshire,
So will start to dismantle it and see how deep the damage is, I put in some serious sub frames under front and rear fairing so they are nearly intact, just cracked.
Hope it has nor damaged frame.
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Post by: Lord_D on 05 July 2017, 11:43:08 am
Cracking project mate.

GWS!
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Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 05 July 2017, 02:03:17 pm

Now i have recovered, ribs 90 % no pain


I found the first time I broke ribs, they recovered with no residual pain. Also on the next two occasions I cracked them. But the next time, well, I still have pain from that one  :lol


This has been a good thread to follow Bill; hope we'll be seeing more soon  :thumbup
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Post by: slimwilly on 06 July 2017, 07:44:21 am
Hi Nick, hope you are all good and the bones creaking   :lol
Had a look last night,  I think I can salvage the master cylinder,  just need alloy cap, gasket,washer, screws, it all got ripped off, threads still work as stubs of screws unscrewed ok.
Got to remove fairing, brackets twisted, rear wheel had a dent inward on rim, 3" long, I can bash this out, these rims are very soft, have banged dents from front and rear ones.
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Post by: slimwilly on 06 July 2017, 07:47:55 am
The crash bungs did there job, got scuffed but no bike metal damage  both sides hit tarmac and upside down,  just screen and brake fluid cap