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Title: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Jules-C on 11 January 2017, 01:13:44 pm
Another year another MOT.  Passed but with 4 advisory notes
1:  Front brake pads near minimum limit - new pads have been sitting in the garage but not fitted for the last year so no argument there
3/4: Rear shock misting/reduced damping a bit disappointed since the Hagon has only done about 15,000 miles but at least it's rebuildable.
but number 2: Brake lever is short but brake can still be readily applied.  Since it is working without problem why is it an advisory?  Not really bothered but seems odd to put it in as advisory
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Jules-C on 11 January 2017, 01:17:47 pm
And why not put an advisory for short clutch lever under section 6.2.1g
g. a clutch lever so damaged, positioned, bent or shortened that it cannot be readily operated
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 11 January 2017, 01:20:09 pm
its an advisory. You choose whether to take any notice or not.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: bandit on 11 January 2017, 01:45:23 pm
Does your brake lever have a ball on the end? if not then that's probably why advisory,the ball is there to stop your fingers from sliding off the end.     
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: TOADY on 11 January 2017, 03:48:48 pm
are they the shorty Chinese pazzo copies? as i've always passed when using them before.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Jules-C on 11 January 2017, 04:10:28 pm
Yeah the Chinese copy ones.  Passed last year with them on at the same place with no advisories. Tester obviously trying to get his score of advisories up to show he's doing a proper job!
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: slappy on 11 January 2017, 04:27:10 pm
Same test station but was it same tester?
You could always ask the tester why he put an advisory on for the short levers.

I had some Titax short  levers fitted on my FZ1s but never felt comfortable with them, I have wide hands with short fingers and standard levers felt much better for me.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: fazersharp on 12 January 2017, 08:50:14 am
Does your brake lever have a ball on the end? if not then that's probably why advisory,the ball is there to stop your fingers from sliding off the end.     
I always thought the ball was a safety feature added to stop the leaver from stabbing you in an off
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Mick-H on 12 January 2017, 09:06:43 am

Mine nearly got failed last year for having ASV short levers on.
When I asked why the bloke said short levers are a fail, so I asked him to show me where this was written to which he replied I'll pass it this time.
How to lose a customer in one easy lesson, three car's and two bike's now going elsewhere.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: His Dudeness on 12 January 2017, 10:29:11 am
Might be a silly question but what are the benefits of short levers? Why do people fit them?
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: acid drop on 12 January 2017, 01:31:48 pm

Might be a silly question but what are the benefits of short levers? Why do people fit them?


    Blinging the bike up maybe.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Slaninar on 12 January 2017, 01:34:43 pm

Might be a silly question but what are the benefits of short levers? Why do people fit them?


    Blinging the bike up maybe.

On a bicycle, I prefer short levers: using only max. 2 fingers on the levers, with short ones, I can pull them all the way to the bars, without them hitting my other fingers. On a motorcycle - never tried short ones, but if it's a similar effect, then I'm a fan! :)
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 12 January 2017, 01:35:55 pm
    Blinging the bike up maybe.

 :agree

But also to reduce the braking capacity as you cant get enough fingers on the lever to apply full pressure (even though others will disagree).

that said, only two fingers (or one strong one) needed to lock the front wheel on an FZS600 with proper working brakes.
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: fazersharp on 12 January 2017, 02:33:58 pm
    Blinging the bike up maybe.

 :agree

But also to reduce the braking capacity as you cant get enough fingers on the lever to apply full pressure (even though others will disagree).

that said, only two fingers (or one strong one) needed to lock the front wheel on an FZS600 with proper working brakes.
Yes exactly and the leaver shouldn't get anywhere near the other fingers unless you got no brake fluid in there 
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: TOADY on 12 January 2017, 05:24:45 pm
Might be a silly question but what are the benefits of short levers? Why do people fit them?


i got little hands so prefer shorty levers as less span
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Freck on 12 January 2017, 06:21:02 pm
Personally I don't like the look of the shorty levers, i like a nice length  :lol


Have always bought the full length adjustable levers. They're usually the same price anyway.  :D
Title: Re: Short Levers - MOT Advisory!
Post by: Slaninar on 13 January 2017, 04:55:48 am
    Blinging the bike up maybe.

 :agree

But also to reduce the braking capacity as you cant get enough fingers on the lever to apply full pressure (even though others will disagree).

that said, only two fingers (or one strong one) needed to lock the front wheel on an FZS600 with proper working brakes.

Same goes for bicycles. I still prefer to have more travel room for tha levers.

As for clutch - there I'd definitely like to have a shorter lever.