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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: sadlonelygit on 16 October 2016, 01:42:37 pm

Title: fz1 motor swap
Post by: sadlonelygit on 16 October 2016, 01:42:37 pm

has anyone swapped a 2004-6 R1 motor into a FZ1 yet?
a claimed 172hp is a good deal better than the MT10 :evil

Title: Re: fz1 motor swap
Post by: stevierst on 16 October 2016, 07:28:22 pm

It'd be easier to flat bar the R1 than swap the engine into a heavier chassis.


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Title: Re: fz1 motor swap
Post by: dazza on 16 October 2016, 08:05:16 pm

Don't know where you got 172 bhp, more like 165 as far as I could see but the R1 weighs about 173kg, any benefit will be lost with the extra weight of the FZ1 IMO, not to mention the loss of bottom end torque.
As for competing with the MT10, it's not just about numbers, it's the whole package. The electronics, the chassis, the short wheelbase and the way that peach of a crossplane engine produces its power.
 
But then I may be biased  :D
 
Some specs of a 2004/6 R1....

	costs
Insurance group	17 of 17
Annual road tax	£82
Annual service cost	£300

   

	Performance
Max power	165 bhp
Max torque	78 ft-lb
Top speed	175 mph
1/4-mile acceleration	10.4 secs
Average fuel consumption	38 mpg
Tank range	130 miles

 

	Specification
Engine size	998cc
Engine type	16v transverse four, 6 gears
Frame type	Aluminium twin spar
Fuel capacity	18 litres
Seat height	835mm
Bike weight	173kg
Front suspension	Preload, rebound, compression
Rear suspension	Preload, rebound, compression
Front brake	Twin 320mm discs
Rear brake	220mm disc
Front tyre size	120/70 x 17 in
Rear tyre size	190/50 x 17 in

Title: Re: fz1 motor swap
Post by: sadlonelygit on 17 October 2016, 12:53:56 pm

Quote from: dazza on 16 October 2016, 08:05:16 pm

Don't know where you got 172 bhp

wikipedia

i can see the clutch actuation is different on the motors but apart from that..........

been offered a cheap fz1 with only 3 big ends, and as EVERYBODY moans about the power output being a mere 135+hp i thought it might be a larf dropping a full fat motor in there.

Title: Re: fz1 motor swap
Post by: Dudeofrude on 17 October 2016, 05:09:48 pm

Quote from: sadlonelygit on 17 October 2016, 12:53:56 pm

Quote from: dazza on 16 October 2016, 08:05:16 pm

Don't know where you got 172 bhp

wikipedia

i can see the clutch actuation is different on the motors but apart from that..........

been offered a cheap fz1 with only 3 big ends, and as EVERYBODY moans about the power output being a mere 135+hp i thought it might be a larf dropping a full fat motor in there.

We'll anything will fit with enough skill and man hours but as was said above, it's be far easier and cheaper to buy an r1, tear the fairing off then stick on some risers and flat bars. You'll already have sport suspension, sport brakes and a ridiculously powerful engine.
Of course you may just be wanting to make something unique. In which case don't forget to post photos 😊