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Title: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 03 September 2016, 11:20:26 am
So, i noticed something smoking after a ride last night....


After scrambling around, looks like oil burning off the downpipes, coming from under the engine, i suspect the oil level sensor....


video : https://vimeo.com/181296725


any advice, looking like pipes off job to get to this and that going to be a real pain
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: Fazerider on 03 September 2016, 04:29:20 pm
All a bit too dark to make out what's going on in your video, but have you checked the oil transfer pipe at the front of the engine? It's very exposed and prone to rusting through... I've had to replace it a couple of times.


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Sorry. I saw FZS600 under your name and didn't realise this was posted in the 1000cc corner... just ignore me. :)
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: Falcon 269 on 03 September 2016, 05:02:50 pm
Looks like coolant not oil.  It's boiling off, not burning.  Prime suspect would be the water/oil pump seal which is designed to drain out of a hole in the sump if it fails, rather than let water into the engine oil.

See this for more info: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37957&highlight=water+pump+seal (http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37957&highlight=water+pump+seal)
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 03 September 2016, 05:54:49 pm
Looks like coolant not oil.  It's boiling off, not burning.  Prime suspect would be the water/oil pump seal which is designed to drain out of a hole in the sump if it fails, rather than let water into the engine oil.

See this for more info: [url]http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37957&highlight=water+pump+seal[/url] ([url]http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37957&highlight=water+pump+seal[/url])



Thanks for the heads up let me have a look!
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 05 September 2016, 10:21:53 pm
So, got the downpipes off and sure enough coolant coming out of the drain hole at the front of the engine...


That link is excellent, did not realise its a sump off job, but here we go...



Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: Falcon 269 on 06 September 2016, 05:38:15 am
Hope it all goes smoothly for you. :)
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 06 September 2016, 10:49:31 am
so do i, the link you sent is excellent.....so should stand me well.....
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 08 September 2016, 09:40:55 pm
Progress, should have it all out tomorrow....fiddly job and messy as hell.


Still pondering if the clutch has to come out as the Haynes manual says to loosen the chain guard for the oil pump sprocket....but we will see....may be best time to just do a clutch plate change as have been thinking about maybe needing it



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Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 09 September 2016, 07:31:59 pm
got it split and got the impeller out - not sure i need to replace it, its got a lot of pitting on it, anyone replaced theirs....


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Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: Falcon 269 on 09 September 2016, 09:51:47 pm
You're in there, I'd replace it rather than have to go back a second time. :)
Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 13 September 2016, 06:53:03 pm
anyone know where to get the seal for inside here....cannot see it anywhere in the catalog on owlers


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Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: unfazed on 13 September 2016, 09:37:47 pm
What part of the engine are you showing?

Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 13 September 2016, 09:48:46 pm
just below front sprocket one of the water pipes that goes into the Pump in the engine...


There is a o-ring or something that goes in there, i cannot find it any where on parts lists or diagrams....



Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: unfazed on 13 September 2016, 11:27:13 pm
Looks like Number 23 here
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4179977/fzs1000-fazer-5lvf-2003-080-a/water-pump (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4179977/fzs1000-fazer-5lvf-2003-080-a/water-pump)

and will probably need number 21 here also
https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4179978/fzs1000-fazer-5lvf-2003-080-a/radiator-hose (https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4179978/fzs1000-fazer-5lvf-2003-080-a/radiator-hose)

Title: Re: Oil Pan/Sensor Leak
Post by: anutz on 14 September 2016, 04:44:05 pm
ok i have ordered both of them as thats all i could see, still wish it was in a picture showing it locating into the hold in the crankcase, but lets see what i get!