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Title: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Streetbudgie on 11 August 2016, 08:14:49 pm
I couldn't believe this so I had to move over and take a second look to make sure I wasn't seeing things:

https://youtu.be/K-KoF_DyHu4 (https://youtu.be/K-KoF_DyHu4)
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: BIG MAC on 11 August 2016, 08:20:53 pm
Nice to see it isn't just women who can multi task
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: celticdog on 11 August 2016, 08:25:48 pm
He's definitely fruit loops.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Bretty on 11 August 2016, 10:28:13 pm
I was going to say I think I can drive quite safely and eat at the same time.. but the issue isn't driving one handed, it's the fact he has to take his eyes off the road each time he has to aim his spoon to take another scoop. It's those seconds of taking your eyes off the road that kills cyclists and pedestrians and causes most rear end shunts. It's the same with looking at a mobile phone screen. Very bad and done by more than 50% of drivers.
It doesn't bother me when I'm in the car..but on the bike it infuriates the hell out of me.

Oh well, if I had a penny for every bit of bad driving I saw, I would be a millionaire by now.  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: midden on 11 August 2016, 11:18:54 pm
Looked more like salad to me.  Are you related to cycle Gaz?

Just a couple of thoughts just for fun ;)

1. How do you know he has to take his eyes off the road each time he puts spoon in the bowl looked to me as though his head was up and facing forward.  I don't find a need to look down at the bowl when I eat

2. How many seconds where your eyes off the road to try and get this man sacked.  Perhaps your numberplate should be splattered on facebook
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Streetbudgie on 12 August 2016, 09:04:17 am
Looked more like salad to me.  Are you related to cycle Gaz?

Just a couple of thoughts just for fun ;)

1. How do you know he has to take his eyes off the road each time he puts spoon in the bowl looked to me as though his head was up and facing forward.  I don't find a need to look down at the bowl when I eat

2. How many seconds where your eyes off the road to try and get this man sacked.  Perhaps your numberplate should be splattered on facebook

OK I'll start a thread where we can discuss the pros and cons of dash cams as I don't want this thread to be destroyed with insults like the last one was.

I'll answer your post above on that thread.

Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: midden on 12 August 2016, 11:36:49 am
1. I see no evidence in the footage which shows him taking  his eyes off the road each time he puts spoon in the bowl.  He may have normal hand to mouth coordination (which could in itself remove some concentration away from the road)

2. How many seconds were the rider's eyes directed away from the road ahead in order to try and get this man sacked or fined. Perhaps his numberplate should be splattered on facebook as well.

Ok I've edited my two thoughts as I  kind of cocked up....... my 2 thoughts were  in reply to the comments posted by Bretty and wrongly written as though Bretty were the creator of this quality action video.   That said, the driver being a danger to other road users is mentioned in the vid.

Is the thread really destroyed because of some negative comments.  Btw great footage which cam are you using? That van driver is a total plonker and should be sacked and banned.

As for insults, although I can now see how close to the mark I was it was never my intention to cause offense and will apologise to cycle Gaz when I meet him  ;)


Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Streetbudgie on 12 August 2016, 02:14:09 pm
Go Pro Silver 3+ and it's stuck on the top of my lid - makes you look like a plonker but it gets the best view although I have noticed that it is a different view from my eye line which explains why some viewers think I'm closer than I am.

Plus on the looking sideways thing, my head and therefore the camera might be facing sideways, but my eyeballs came with a swivel setting when I got them, so it is possible to move my head to the side and look straight ahead.

I think everyone has this ability.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Bretty on 12 August 2016, 04:46:37 pm
I ate a cheese burger, big mac and fries on the way down to Dover on Friday (starving and in a rush). I could manage that, but didn't have my usual sweet and sour and barbeque sauce to dunk my chips in as I thought that would be dangerous.  :rolleyes


Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: midden on 12 August 2016, 07:28:41 pm
I ate a cheese burger, big mac and fries on the way down to Dover on Friday (starving and in a rush). I could manage that, but didn't have my usual sweet and sour and barbeque sauce to dunk my chips in as I thought that would be dangerous.  :rolleyes

yeah you can get away with cheeseburgers the problems start when  trying to hold together a big mac
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: midden on 12 August 2016, 07:43:35 pm
https://youtu.be/b_CAV22v77E

YOU REALLY ARE A MOTORCYCLE GAZ.
Most would do what the drivers to your left did. Why no mention of the cars blatantly not driving round disc that is the roundabout.

Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Exupnut on 12 August 2016, 07:51:50 pm
OMFG!!! That biker crossed a solid cycle lane....u can only use the broken ones mate!!! FFS.....I'm shocked .....ring ring ...hello this is plod how can I help....


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Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Grahamm on 13 August 2016, 12:08:16 pm
Oh dear, here we go again...

Ad Hominem Tu Quoque (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Tu_quoque) "[...] if Source A criticizes the actions of Source B, a tu quoque response is that Source A has acted in the same way. This argument is false because it does not disprove the premise; if the premise is true then Source A may be a hypocrite, but this does not make the statement less credible"

In other words, what Streetbudgie may or may not have done does not exonerate the driver from their actions.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: NorthWestern on 13 August 2016, 12:45:20 pm
It doesn't, but no one is really saying it does.  What if the driver posted the reverse vid, showing some guy on a bike doing what he did, plastered the vid with insulting comments and splashing the reg plate on social media etc without allowing any sort of defence?


It is, as someone else already stated, curtain twitching.  Do these people upload vids of themselves breaking the traffic laws, splash their own reg plates and cowardly comments on etc?  Why not?


Oh thats right, because in their holier than thou crusade they don't deem their own actions as a problem.  These discussions typically spiral out of meaning because the posters seem to want a pat on the back and any criticism of the practice of what they are doing is taken as a direct personal attack with no actual discussion taking place.  No matter how many times people try to clarify that they don't mean the poster in question - just using the provided material as a point to look at.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: tommyardin on 16 August 2016, 12:40:05 am
It doesn't, but no one is really saying it does.  What if the driver posted the reverse vid, showing some guy on a bike doing what he did, plastered the vid with insulting comments and splashing the reg plate on social media etc without allowing any sort of defence?


It is, as someone else already stated, curtain twitching.  Do these people upload vids of themselves breaking the traffic laws, splash their own reg plates and cowardly comments on etc?  Why not?


Oh thats right, because in their holier than thou crusade they don't deem their own actions as a problem.  These discussions typically spiral out of meaning because the posters seem to want a pat on the back and any criticism of the practice of what they are doing is taken as a direct personal attack with no actual discussion taking place.  No matter how many times people try to clarify that they don't mean the poster in question - just using the provided material as a point to look at.


Has anyone any idea if it was full fat milk or semi skimmed milk on the van drivers cereal. Semi skimmed is much safer according to the department of food and fisheries. So ideally skimmed milk on kippers is a safe breakfast for a van driver with a busy schedule. And can be consumed with confidence that it will not do him any harm let alone anyone else, plus I have been told as long as you have your dipped headlights on its all ok.
So that's put that to bed.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: darrsi on 16 August 2016, 08:56:35 am
He was just an amateur  :lol


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/537966/video-woman-driver-motorway-foot-steering-wheel-instagram (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/537966/video-woman-driver-motorway-foot-steering-wheel-instagram)
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Flooky on 16 August 2016, 07:20:42 pm
With my open face helmet I can eat a chicken balti, onion bahji, rice and a naan, but the fkin mint sauce goes on your tank and messes it up...but it was ok I washed it off with a bit of cobra..   :lol
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: robbo on 16 August 2016, 08:50:06 pm
Oi Flooky,
You were supposed to be delivering the Balti, not eating it. Yours was the Madras.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: tommyardin on 17 August 2016, 05:58:52 pm
With my open face helmet I can eat a chicken balti, onion bahji, rice and a naan, but the fkin mint sauce goes on your tank and messes it up...but it was ok I washed it off with a bit of cobra..   :lol


I don't some people are so uncouth, Mint Sauce with out Poppadoms.
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Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: taylor on 19 August 2016, 10:46:09 pm
when i go to the beach i buy donught rings, i keep them on my front brake lever and use the back brake until they are all gone, 8)
Title: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: Exupnut on 20 August 2016, 12:28:50 am
With my open face helmet I can eat a chicken balti, onion bahji, rice and a naan, but the fkin mint sauce goes on your tank and messes it up...but it was ok I washed it off with a bit of cobra..   :lol
when i go to the beach i buy donught rings, i keep them on my front brake lever and use the back brake until they are all gone, 8)

Guys ...have u not learned from the streetbudgie ...r u not LISTENING!!....imho u r both "FUKIN IDIOTS" for posting up categorical admissions of blatant highway misuse on a biker forum...how very very dare you...I'm tellin your mum on you

































(If she's a copper ;-)
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: JOE on 20 August 2016, 07:53:02 am
Is your name Geoff Smith?


http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2008/november/nov1208-vigilante-bikers-murky-past/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2008/november/nov1208-vigilante-bikers-murky-past/)
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: taylor on 20 August 2016, 09:33:25 pm
sorry boys, sorry mum.   in future  I will not eat anything when riding except a bit of nipple. :b
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: locksmith on 22 August 2016, 11:06:28 am
Is your name Geoff Smith?


[url]http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2008/november/nov1208-vigilante-bikers-murky-past/[/url] ([url]http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2008/november/nov1208-vigilante-bikers-murky-past/[/url])



The charity’s function was to deliver organs to hospitals. But a police officer who caught Smith driving without a licence in a car done up to look like an ambulance said: “The only organ he could transport is some liver from the butcher’s.”
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Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: tommyardin on 22 August 2016, 12:17:22 pm
when i go to the beach i buy donught rings, i keep them on my front brake lever and use the back brake until they are all gone, 8)


I have another little protrusion that I pop my ring doughnuts on whilst riding, I also find that my pillion never seems to wants on of them either, so all's good.
Title: Re: Van driver eating breakfast while driving
Post by: maddog04 on 02 September 2016, 10:48:18 pm
and bikers never act like twats do they?
imagine if cagers put all the bad bikers on youtube....there'd be no space for anything else

pot kettle black, budgie

keep the cam for any accident you're involved in but ditch the vids you're doing