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Title: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 14 June 2016, 06:35:34 pm
So, i have a front mud guard i need to paint for my other bike....


I was wondering if anyone can share any wisdom on best way to do it..


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/EBA1E5FB-5E50-48AF-A7F0-D68CD71D53E8_zpslrrwuhwi.jpg)


I plan to, wet and dry it with very fine grit ( already done....as advised by a friend to remove the "gel" ) then prime it with 2 coats of gray primer, then a few coats of matt black...


been getting quotes for local people to do it and its a lot more than i thought ( 100+) , so figured i would have a go, was not expensive so worth a shot...as the sprays is only cheap as well


I am not too fussed on it looking magnificent, its just the one it came with was rattling and secured by some strange bodge...so needed changing, and i cannot leave it as it is!


Thanks

Anutz
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: joebloggs on 14 June 2016, 07:05:28 pm
Prime it then lots of thin coats, I'm no sprayer but not to bad results providing you take your time and don't try covering the piece in one or two coats.
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 14 June 2016, 07:16:35 pm
yep, been thinking lots of little coats, a bit at a time, at least i cannot mess up any exhaust studs doing this so my GSXR is safe for now. :lol
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: chris.biker on 14 June 2016, 07:19:18 pm
give it a light patchy spray over with black. then repeat the rubbing down during this the black will high light any floors in the surface.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-eaxuxRqc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-eaxuxRqc)
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 14 June 2016, 07:29:08 pm
give it a light patchy spray over with black. then repeat the rubbing down during this the black will high light any floors in the surface.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-eaxuxRqc[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c-eaxuxRqc[/url])





will post pics as i do each step, even if i mess it up lol, waiting for the sprays to arrive..
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: fazersharp on 14 June 2016, 08:34:47 pm
As a kid there were some garages near us for the local houses and there always seemed to be half used cans dumped in the hedge which we took home and sprayed our pushbikes with so thanks to that I have had a lot of practice,also owning a vauxhall cavalier mk1 in the late 80s also gave me a lot of practice filling in rust holes and spraying, its not as easy as the pros make it look.
A big factor in a good finish is the quality of the spray can and head, as some just spit instead of spraying   
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 14 June 2016, 09:17:36 pm
agreed its a skilled job, but then for a bodge by me, 10$ is a fair price, as long as it does not wash off in the first rain storm, its a success lol


 :lol
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 15 June 2016, 08:03:59 pm
So....


Very giddy right now, probably lack of ventilation  :b ....


Took a few pics...


First spray of primer....


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/DF12016A-2202-4C49-95CD-2CBC792B84D7_zpskgkhohtv.jpg)


After several more sprays or more....


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/F2DCB605-145F-493D-A2AE-A6EDB376E09A_zpsk0pogiss.jpg)


Drying now in the kitchen...


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/D01C51A0-A5FA-4897-B2B6-CD9007857BBC_zpszek7kkt1.jpg)


Also did the underside but not as many coats...


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/8AD16336-2F90-407E-9638-3E185B083EEF_zps99nn3g6g.jpg)


So tomorrow i need to re-flat it with some very fine wet and dry and then i can start to stick on the black gloss spray i have.....


Only issue i had was some spats of grey when the nozzle glogged up but they are negligible and will be removed when i rub it down tmre.....i hope....but anyway, if the black coat turns out as well i will be happy


Anutz!
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 02:33:01 pm
Starting the color coats now......hmmmm


first spray...


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/AA4FBAD5-8085-4EC2-9FDD-3DEE659E9C36_zpso1btqjt0.jpg)



Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: fazersharp on 16 June 2016, 02:40:05 pm

Only issue i had was some spats of grey when the nozzle glogged up
Anutz!
I told you about that didn't I  :pokefun
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 02:41:21 pm
i recall a long time ago someone telling me not to touch exhaust studs....lol  :lol


3rd coat going on now!




Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 02:50:33 pm
coming on nicely!


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/EF3E396F-21BD-464F-A3DD-6475959F30BF_zps49rjqxhy.jpg)
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: joebloggs on 16 June 2016, 03:30:20 pm
Make sure you get some paint on the edges, you'll find the paint very thin there and if not careful you'll go straight through to primer when you flat it back.
Looking good so far
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 03:36:48 pm
Make sure you get some paint on the edges, you'll find the paint very thin there and if not careful you'll go straight through to primer when you flat it back.
Looking good so far



thanks...will be very careful, i had to re-prime it earlier as i did just that with the flat back for the primer, too it a little too far on one section.....


second time i got it right, just doing the underside now...


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/086EA875-AA8D-4DE7-990C-F3F9AE314FD3_zpswxwaqr3j.jpg)
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 03:45:18 pm
well i think its good enuff for me....


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/5B8A2422-876E-405E-A8CD-FF52BDAC7C84_zpskssdfj6j.jpg)


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/ECD8249B-D1CD-419C-AF66-AC95BB638224_zps7awi3k8l.jpg)
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 03:46:15 pm
any thoughts or experience with lacquer....not sure if i should, have read about people ruining the job after getting this far....no idea really...
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: Fazer99 on 16 June 2016, 03:56:26 pm
any thoughts or experience with lacquer....not sure if i should, have read about people ruining the job after getting this far....no idea really...

As a Panel beater paint sprayer I should say yes I have experiance with lacquer but it has been over 15 years since doing anything like that. I painted my old FZR and didn't use any lacquer and had no problems, as long as you use a strong paint then you should be fine as yes if you mess the lacquer up it's a possible start over.
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: fatbloke62 on 16 June 2016, 04:03:53 pm
anutz pm me your phone number and  i'll ring you and  explain about base coats and clears
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 04:45:01 pm
ok well for me now its done - back on the bike and looks fine - total cost was just under 20 pounds for sprays and wet and dry, and then 40 for the actual fender....so all in 60 quid and learned a little as well.


(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/5C317B77-0798-47F6-8164-ADE82C2367B7_zps5vetri2n.jpg)
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: Fazer99 on 16 June 2016, 05:44:47 pm
Cracking job  :thumbup
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 05:50:57 pm
Cracking job  :thumbup


thanks  :) , was good fun, and useful to learn how to do bits like that etc.
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: fazersharp on 16 June 2016, 06:00:28 pm
Cracking job  :thumbup


thanks  :) , was good fun, and useful to learn how to do bits like that etc.
The proper experts will be along to advise properly but I always resist the temptation to re fit straight away and leave it 24 hours or over night to fully harden
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 06:40:52 pm
i know, i could not resist  :b , i don't think i waited 24 minutes let alone hours lol
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: joebloggs on 16 June 2016, 06:44:39 pm
Give the paint 24 hrs to dry and u can take out all the fasteners holding it on, great weight saving technique  lol
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 07:06:30 pm
Give the paint 24 hrs to dry and u can take out all the fasteners holding it on, great weight saving technique  lol


lol, it will be fine!  :b
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: sinto on 16 June 2016, 09:33:04 pm
Go on Anutz, admit it, you just went out and bought a new one as there's no way that's a DIY job :pokefun

Excellent work on that :)
On a note of someone telling you not to touch exhaust studs, your now a qualified mechanic since you picked up a spanner to tackle your 'wee job' on the :faz :lol
Title: Re: Picasso....
Post by: anutz on 16 June 2016, 10:06:16 pm
Go on Anutz, admit it, you just went out and bought a new one as there's no way that's a DIY job :pokefun

Excellent work on that :)
On a note of someone telling you not to touch exhaust studs, your now a qualified mechanic since you picked up a scanner to tackle your 'wee job' on the :faz :lol


Thanks Sinto....turned out really well, made a few mess ups initially flatting back the primer to plastic again, but second time went well and the result looks lovely....and its been road tested tonight, all is well, the paint did not fly off at speed.


I do like "wee jobs".....but hope i never ever have to do a "wee job" like i did on my FZS600 ever again lol