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Title: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 09 February 2016, 09:46:29 pm
Anyone know what this is? Everything on the bike is working fine, but when I turn the ignition to the on position I can hear a faint crackling noise, it sounds like it's coming from the tank or clocks area but I can't pin point it... Fzs1000 2002
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: sadlonelygit on 09 February 2016, 10:13:34 pm
is it a sort of tzzz tzzzz kind of sound :rolleyes
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: tex on 09 February 2016, 10:22:54 pm

 Probably the exup cycling
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: sadlonelygit on 09 February 2016, 10:26:49 pm

 Probably the exup cycling

don't spoil it...............i was going to offer him £50 cos it's focced!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: tommyardin on 09 February 2016, 11:04:32 pm
No wonder you sad and lonely you mean foccer  :lol
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: tommyardin on 09 February 2016, 11:08:51 pm
Mind you I spent about an hour and a bit searching the internet when I first got my Fazer, cos someone said to me that the Exup valve really needs stripping down and cleaning out and lubing each year, as I said an Hour and a bit later I found out that FZS does not have one.  :fish 
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: PieEater on 10 February 2016, 05:55:37 am
Mind you I spent about an hour and a bit searching the internet when I first got my Fazer, cos someone said to me that the Exup valve really needs stripping down and cleaning out and lubing each year, as I said an Hour and a bit later I found out that FZS does not have one.  :fish

The OP says he has a FZS1000 and has been told that the noise he is hearing is most likely the EXUP cycling so your post is only going to confuse him and anyone else new who reads it.  I assume you're talking about the FZS600 in which case you're on the wrong forum.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 10 February 2016, 10:27:18 am
The bike has a full akrapovic system on it. So no exup. Is there a solenoid hidden somewhere that I should remove? Read a post on the American forum that someone mentioned the sound to do with the "fuel gauge tracer", whatever that is...?
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: markie_wales on 10 February 2016, 10:37:21 am
Could be that the exup servo (motor) has been left in with cables disconnected.

Tank off/lifted, ear under tank, ignition on ;)

Cheers

Markie
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: tex on 10 February 2016, 11:50:45 am

 Probably the exup cycling

don't spoil it...............i was going to offer him £50 cos it's focced!!!!!!!!!
:lol
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 11 February 2016, 11:29:18 am
Is the cycling a constant noise? This isn't like a servo sound on a dt125, like a constant crackling...
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: sadlonelygit on 11 February 2016, 01:50:48 pm
does it sound like a servo cycling when you turn it on. once it's on, you will hear a minute amount of motor noise as it holds a neutral position.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: windscreenman on 11 February 2016, 10:46:03 pm

Just done full service inc ais removal makes changing plugs a piece of piss,Just had my servo out of the bike cracked it open greased it all put it back  oiled cables , serviced exup too snapped 1 bolt in the exhaust doh
Drilled out re tapped and fresh stainless bolts, put it back together switched ignition on heard a funny noise from the servo thought the worst  :'(
 took it out opened valve and swithed ignition on and servo returned to neutral position so thats a bonus buzzing was just servo spinning up  :lol
Next up ivans jet kit
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: nickodemon on 12 February 2016, 12:06:18 pm
Is the cycling a constant noise? This isn't like a servo sound on a dt125, like a constant crackling...


I had the same sound on one of my fazers. If you squirt electrical lube down the ignition and turn it on and off a few times the noise should go away.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: unfazed on 12 February 2016, 01:02:03 pm
Turn off the engine with the kill switch, now turn off the ignition.
Turn on the ignition is the noise gone?
If so it is the exup servo
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: tommyardin on 13 February 2016, 11:09:35 am
Mind you I spent about an hour and a bit searching the internet when I first got my Fazer, cos someone said to me that the Exup valve really needs stripping down and cleaning out and lubing each year, as I said an Hour and a bit later I found out that FZS does not have one.  :fish

The OP says he has a FZS1000 and has been told that the noise he is hearing is most likely the EXUP cycling so your post is only going to confuse him and anyone else new who reads it.  I assume you're talking about the FZS600 in which case you're on the wrong forum.


Oh I do beg your pardon Pie, I did not realise that if you don't have a 1K fazer your not allowed in this chat, I foolishly thought that the FOC was a club for all Fazer owners (How stupid of me) is it a club for any 1K Fazer owner or is it just a certain model or year or maybe it has to be a certain colour, maybe you are not allowed to post if you don't have a rear hugger or fender extender fitted.
I know mate I sorry as I am now being as big twat as others on here. My apologies
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Fazerjon on 16 February 2016, 03:58:24 pm
Did you sort the crackling noise out, coz mines doing it now, fzs 1000 2003. Ignition on, then it sounds like a relay clicking once, then the crackling sizzling noise starts until ignition is switched off. Sounds a bit like something arcing or shorting out, hope it's not.......
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: PieEater on 16 February 2016, 04:26:46 pm
Did you sort the crackling noise out, coz mines doing it now, fzs 1000 2003. Ignition on, then it sounds like a relay clicking once, then the crackling sizzling noise starts until ignition is switched off. Sounds a bit like something arcing or shorting out, hope it's not.......

I had something similar and ended up replacing the battery which resolved the issue.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: windscreenman on 16 February 2016, 11:59:06 pm
Mines got a new battery on and it's still doing it it's the exup servo the grease inside is very sticky and it sounds Like it's clicking as the cogs spin uplift the tank and feel the servo for vibrations to check operation  ignition off turn wheel on servo to open valve then switch ignition back on if it returns to original setting put your tank back down and don't worry about it :lol
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 17 February 2016, 03:58:38 am
Nope, not sorted it yet, but what you are describing is exactly what I'm getting, more of a constant sizzling noise. I've changed the battery recently, and starter relay, so nothing to do with them (didn't think it would be anyway!) But I'll get to the source of it hopefully this evening, as I'll have it apart to balance the carbs anyway!
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: windscreenman on 17 February 2016, 07:42:48 am
You could remove the servo or unplug it if not required mines done 31kand when I opened the servo the grease was like black thick sticky as the cogs unmesh that's where my crackling noise was coming from I still got exup so I need mine but it's nothing to worry about honest :'(
Lift tank and feel servo you can feel it working if your hearing isn't clever put a screwdriver on servo and put the handle to your ear that will amplify your crackling  :lol
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 18 February 2016, 08:22:09 pm
It didn't crackle when I balanced the carbs so I left it. I know it still does it, but when cold apparently... Servo is there, that can bugger off shortly
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Fazerjon on 19 February 2016, 09:42:22 am
I disconnected my servo earlier as I also have the crackling noise, and it sure enough it stopped. Definitely not a healthy sound, I don't like it. Anyway if everyone reckons its normal then I'll leave it. One question, is the servo supposed to do a cycle every time the ignition is switched on? I've greased up the valve, checked the cables and that end is all good. I've oiled the cables at the servo end, but when I switch the ignition on nothing moves, just crackles??
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Motopsycho87 on 19 February 2016, 01:29:43 pm
I take there is no harm in removing the servo? Just eating my precious electricity otherwise...

And I've never come across anything electrical where that noise is a good thing!
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: unfazed on 19 February 2016, 02:39:44 pm
I disconnected my servo earlier as I also have the crackling noise, and it sure enough it stopped. Definitely not a healthy sound, I don't like it. Anyway if everyone reckons its normal then I'll leave it. One question, is the servo supposed to do a cycle every time the ignition is switched on? I've greased up the valve, checked the cables and that end is all good. I've oiled the cables at the servo end, but when I switch the ignition on nothing moves, just crackles??
Turn off the engine with the kill switch, now turn off the ignition.
Turn on the ignition is the noise gone?
If so it is the exup servo

Try the above if it goes away then it is the servo going into its default position which it does when you stop the engine with the kill switch.
When you stop the engine with the ignition key the power is cut and the Exup cannot return to its default position until you switch the ignition back on.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Falcon 269 on 19 February 2016, 03:25:23 pm
I take there is no harm in removing the servo? Just eating my precious electricity otherwise...

And I've never come across anything electrical where that noise is a good thing!

I assume you don't need the servo because you've got no EXUP valve for it to operate?  If so, you can remove the servo but you'll get the 7k rpm tacho error code continuously as a result.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: nickodemon on 19 February 2016, 04:20:56 pm
Did you try what I said weeks ago. Turn ignition on and listen for crackling sound. Leave ignition on and spray electrical lube or wd 40 if you don't have electrical spray and see if the noise changes. If it does its ignition.
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: windscreenman on 19 February 2016, 06:37:44 pm
It's the grease inside it open it up if you don't believe me
It's very sticky grease that crackles as the cogs unmesh even if you spray coppers lip in there it still makes a noise that's what I did and it made no difference at all nothing to be concerned about its NORMAL :rollin
This is plastic parts unmeshing  and not an electrical problem you are all reading too much into it take the 4 screws out and open it have a look then chill out !!! :grumble
I didn't hear it at all until I removed the ais off mine I guess everyone is just more sensative to it cos now you can hear it it must be fooked well it's not  :stop
My exup works very well and yes it crackles from the servo  it ain't broke and it dont need fixing you will waste your money trying to silence it   :groan
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Fazerjon on 23 February 2016, 10:35:51 am
I disconnected my servo earlier as I also have the crackling noise, and it sure enough it stopped. Definitely not a healthy sound, I don't like it. Anyway if everyone reckons its normal then I'll leave it. One question, is the servo supposed to do a cycle every time the ignition is switched on? I've greased up the valve, checked the cables and that end is all good. I've oiled the cables at the servo end, but when I switch the ignition on nothing moves, just crackles??
Turn off the engine with the kill switch, now turn off the ignition.
Turn on the ignition is the noise gone?
If so it is the exup servo

Yep, tried that and it's definitely the servo motor. I was mainly worried because I hadn't noticed it before, but it seemed to happen after I'd done the AIS removal mod so was worried I'd done something wrong! All good now, I'm happy   :)

Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: windscreenman on 23 February 2016, 08:39:23 pm
I was exactly the same only noticed the noise after ais removal being paranoid I heard the crackling and thought what the feck is that it didn't do that before  anyway not to worry if you want to check the operation of the servo lift the tank them torn the servo pulley by hand to open the valve then swith ignition on the servo should return to original point if it does servo and valve work my bike goes like a rocket now I've done the ivans too all set for sunny days now
Ride safe
Title: Re: Ignition on crackling noise?
Post by: Fazerjon on 24 February 2016, 09:24:30 am
Excellent, I've booked in with Mike for the Full Monty in April so I can't wait now, roll on the Spring/Summer!