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Title: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 09 December 2015, 07:26:15 pm
As I've never had one of these, can anyone give me some pointers before I waste money.

My son, who's 13 and about 5'5" and is constantly dropping the hint to get one for him.

Been to local shop but no way am I getting brand new but it was mainly for looking.

Been told a 50cc would be good enough, but also been told to go for a 125cc

So yes, I'm a bit confused already :b

Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: mickvp on 09 December 2015, 07:42:36 pm
I have had a few goes on a 50cc, and even taking into consideration I'm a right fat foccer, they wouldn't pull you out of bed.

I ended up with a Suzuki DR400, mainly because I got it for cheap, but that was way overkill.

One of my mates had a damaged 125 road bike that he had stripped and put knobblies on which worked ok though, some of the decent scramblers can hold their money well (the main ones at least: Suzuki DRZ, Honda CR, Yamaha YZ etc)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: griff86 on 09 December 2015, 08:48:41 pm
I raced motocross for a few seasons and do enduro riding now.

How about a big wheel 85cc? Are you thinking 2 or 4 stroke?
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 09 December 2015, 08:51:48 pm
I raced motocross for a few seasons and do enduro riding now.

How about a big wheel 85cc? Are you thinking 2 or 4 stroke?
Don't know really tbh
Depends what's available for the right price.

There's a couple of tracks up here but most are closed during winter, so when season starts I'll take my boy up and see what does what best :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: tex on 09 December 2015, 08:55:22 pm
Depends on what he wants to do, if he wants to go to a track and do it properly  then he will need protective kit helmet etc, my son rides a kx 85 big wheel which is powerful enough , he is 13 and been going for over a year to our lcoal track. If he just wants to go to the local waste land  you want a cheap 50,80 pit bike or similar,  remember if they get caught riding on fields the police just take the bike and crush it.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 09 December 2015, 08:58:50 pm
Depends on what he wants to do, if he wants to go to a track and do it properly  then he will need protective kit helmet etc, my son rides a kx 85 big wheel which is powerful enough , he is 13 and been going for over a year to our lcoal track. If he just wants to go to the local waste land  you want a cheap 50,80 pit bike or similar,  remember if they get caught riding on fields the police just take the bike and crush it.
I'm with you on that tex,
It'll be track time at clubs etc and I'll have the bike with me (I'm seperated) so he won't be tempted to just take it out to the local field etc
And as with when he goes on the back of my bike, it'll be the right kit or no riding :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: tex on 09 December 2015, 09:23:43 pm
Totally  agree,  what I did was join the local track and hired one of there bikes for a few months, gives them an idea what's it's about, and experience.  Then got the kx85 big wheel. I was surprised how physicality demarding it is. He does press ups to help upper body strength.  After a hour on the track he comes of soaking in sweet.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sadlonelygit on 10 December 2015, 11:41:16 am
an 85 is the way to go. small wheel whilst he is a tiddler then full size later on.............plus you can ride it ( just to check the jetting ;) )
hold their money well but need piston and rings every 20hrs so consumables will be high.
plus after 3 meetings on it when he's dead last every time he'll think foc this for a larf and it'll never be touched again.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: Frosties on 10 December 2015, 12:47:29 pm
Totally  agree,  what I did was join the local track and hired one of there bikes for a few months, gives them an idea what's it's about, and experience.  Then got the kx85 big wheel. I was surprised how physicality demarding it is. He does press ups to help upper body strength.  After a hour on the track he comes of soaking in sweet.


I'd add sit ups and squats to the press ups - try and build his core up 'cos it's knackering.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: Red Ceri on 10 December 2015, 01:35:27 pm
As per the others get him on a Big Wheel 85 to start, more than enough to scare him but easy enough to handle plus easy to maintain,


At his size 5.5 he may look a little small on it but in a year or two you'll be swapping it for a 2 stroke 125 or 4-stroke 250. The 2-strokes are holding their price secondhand as most companies dropped them from their ranges but are lighter and easier (cheaper) to maintain than 4-strokes


My boy worked his way through from a PW80 at 7 and finally got a RMZ250 at 16, never raced just gone to practice tracks and had fun blasting around.
 
As I'd never done any off roading myself I went to the KTM off road Experience last month and had a go on a MXtrack, best fun I've had for a long time and now looking at selling my boys RMZ and going shares in nearly new 250 KTM to do some more myself. Although I wont be going as fast as him, don't bounce as well as I used to either.






 
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: Skippernick on 10 December 2015, 08:51:41 pm
Spoke to a work mate today and he said as above.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 10 December 2015, 08:59:00 pm
All sounds like it's an 85 then.
Had a look on Gumtree and the like and all I can see is between £600 to £2000 depending on age/condition. Will need to look into it more to give me an understanding of it all.

My mate today said his neighbour has one in his garage he's not used in years and will ask him about it for me, I don't know what it is, what size it is or anything so might get a bargain but then again it could be all wrong :(
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: tex on 10 December 2015, 09:32:51 pm
I paid £1750, for a 2011 with some nice extras top end rebuild new bearings and suspension overhaul, got from the track they had stored and maintained it for a member. I can ask if they have any others for sale
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 10 December 2015, 09:38:05 pm
I paid £1750, for a 2011 with some nice extras top end rebuild new bearings and suspension overhaul, got from the track they had stored and maintained it for a member. I can ask if they have any others for sale

Cheers tex, but your a bit too far away for me :(
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: tex on 10 December 2015, 10:39:19 pm
 :lol just checked where you are. Might be a tad far
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 10 December 2015, 10:41:10 pm
:lol just checked where you are. Might be a tad far
:lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 11 December 2015, 07:02:48 pm
Well I've found out about the bike :)

It's a xsport 110

Bad points
Won't start, won't run
No fuel.
No air filter.


Good points
Looks clean
Tyres are good
Parts are cheap to buy
Good 'project' for my boy
Hopefully it'll be cheap to buy


So what's your thoughts guys?
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: locksmith on 12 December 2015, 10:17:16 am
Cheapo chinese pit bike thingie by the looks, you get what you pay for but I'd avoid like the plague :lol

My lad started woith an old DT125 across the fields (ahem)
He then went to a KX100 on local tracks, that thing scared the bejesus out of me :eek
As he's grown up into a man he had a succession of MX bikes, currently races a CR450, fuk knows how he does that, got massively bigger balls than me!

Thing is these mx bikes are highly tuned,need constant maintenance and can haemorrhage cash, its easy to blow and engine and thats big bucks, just ask him :lol so it might not be cheap hobby, but when its in your blood..........................
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 12 December 2015, 10:28:17 am
as locksmith looks chinese to me too.......be a good project for you and your son,dosn`t look as if its had much use and probs an easy repair ,great for your son to learn basic mechanics,once up and running sell it to fund a jap bike  :thumbup ....so whats it worth,a non runner this time of year,i would start at £50...cheeky i know,but you can always go up,not down  ;)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 12 December 2015, 10:40:13 am
I understand it being a cheap Chinese thingy :) It's easy to set your site's on something at the top of the range but I'm in agreement with red, I think it would be a great learning curve for my son at not a lot of money.

History wise....I know it's ran in the past as my mate said he had it going up and down the road and the exhaust is loud, but he reckons it's been lying for a few years as his son is a bit older now. So might not need much with any luck.

Funny you mention  £50 as that's what my mate has said his neighbour would probably  be looking for it, but we'll have to wait and see as he works abroad and we're waiting on reply from him.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 12 December 2015, 10:58:20 am
Sounds like a good deal to me.....with that little bit of history getting it going will be easy, carb clean, plug clean and fresh fuel , cheap filter on ebay brum, brum   :lol........if for some reason it dosn't start you'll get your money back in the spring no problem  :thumbup
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 12 December 2015, 12:06:08 pm
Sounds like a good deal to me.....with that little bit of history getting it going will be easy, carb clean, plug clean and fresh fuel , cheap filter on ebay brum, brum   :lol........if for some reason it dosn't start you'll get your money back in the spring no problem  :thumbup
:agree

Hoping to strip it down, I mean supervise my boy doing it :)
It'll be good for him as he's wanting to do mechanics when he's older :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 12 December 2015, 04:17:18 pm
At 13 thats a great way to start, thats a lot of learning for £50.......easy to make a profit if sold on once running, that will be another lesson learnt  :thumbup
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 12 December 2015, 05:41:15 pm
At 13 thats a great way to start, thats a lot of learning for £50.......easy to make a profit if sold on once running, that will be another lesson learnt  :thumbup
:agree
I think it's a better Xmas present than most stuff :lol
It'll get him off the couch and away from the TV and be the envy of his mates I'm sure :)

Think the idea will be.....
Strip it down, get it running, use it for a season to get him into it sort of idea and then either sell or exchange up if he's still into it.
Yes £50 to start, plus parts, plus gear etc, but it'd cost a lot more if I just got a bike already running and he won't gain the experience of stripping the engine and getting it working, which in my opinion is the most important part in this :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 12 December 2015, 07:27:49 pm
 :agree.......only down side.....bastid to wrap up and how are you going to get it in his stocking    :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 12 December 2015, 07:32:35 pm
only down side.....bastid to wrap up and how are you going to get it in his stocking    :lol
Dam, I never thought of that! :b
Maybe I'll just get a wee model bike and wrap that and put that in his stocking :)
That'll give him something to think about :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: mickvp on 12 December 2015, 09:21:41 pm
Get him a wee model bike keyring and attach a key to it ;)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 12 December 2015, 09:33:18 pm
Get him a wee model bike keyring and attach a key to it ;)
:rollin :rollin

Yeah that'll work too
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: joebloggs on 14 December 2015, 09:59:51 pm
Motorcycle for Xmas
You want to adopt me?
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 23 December 2015, 10:34:48 am
Well that's the deal done :)
Sitting in my garage now and waiting on my boy to see it, so he should be pleased.

So now I'm going to have to look for spare parts.....
Battery, petrol cap, air pod filter (are these just disposable ones), carb cleaner maybe?

Had a wee browse on fleebay, stuff doesn't look that expensive for it so should get it up and running in no time. :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: locksmith on 23 December 2015, 10:41:54 am
Bet he gets the hump because he asked for an Xbox one !!!!
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 23 December 2015, 11:14:32 am
Bet he gets the hump because he asked for an Xbox one !!!!
:rollin :rollin
Nope, I deffinetly heard him say motorbike :b
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 23 December 2015, 06:37:34 pm
Nice one sinto......we all expect to see a piccie on christmas morning of the happy new owner   :thumbup
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: joebloggs on 23 December 2015, 07:06:50 pm
I want a picture of Santa getting it down the chimney
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 23 December 2015, 07:47:13 pm
I started my kids on a TW125 in the fields near home around the 13 year mark.
Local farmer is into bikes so we had full access to fields which were not in use.
They learned to ride, stop, fall, race, slide, fall,and wheelie on it. (they fell a lot at first)
Bought it as a ratteler for €425 stripped the chassis and they helped paint it and put it back together.
Rebored it, put new pistons rings and gudgeon pin into it.
Had over 2 years fun on it and sold it for €600. :woot

When they were ready for the road I put them on the Serow.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 23 December 2015, 08:02:38 pm
Good idea mr bloggs.........so, we want a picture of santa (thats you sinto ) on the roof trying to get the bike down the chimney.....hope we're not going to be disappointed christmas morning.......
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 23 December 2015, 08:08:46 pm
 :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 23 December 2015, 08:14:54 pm
:lol
Those look like how it'll end up if I try to get it down the chimney :b

Sorry to disappoint you all but it'll be left in the garage :)

Part of the deal of me getting it is....once I've done it up and my boy has used it for whatever time scale that is, once I'm ready to sell it on, I've to offer to my mate, who got me the deal, first refusal for his grandson :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 23 December 2015, 09:45:51 pm
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 23 December 2015, 09:48:58 pm
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
:lol you had too much Christmas spirit already?
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 23 December 2015, 09:51:42 pm
Cracking present  :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 23 December 2015, 09:52:47 pm
Cracking present  :lol
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 23 December 2015, 10:19:54 pm
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
:lol you had too much Christmas spirit already?

Whatever gave you that impression?  :b
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 23 December 2015, 10:34:20 pm
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
:lol you had too much Christmas spirit already?

Whatever gave you that impression?  :b
Just a stab in the dark :b :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 24 December 2015, 06:46:12 am
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
:lol you had too much Christmas spirit already?

Whatever gave you that impression?  :b
Just a stab in the dark :b :)










foc.............i thought that was a "spot the 10 differences" competition...been up all night and not found one   :o
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 24 December 2015, 03:04:03 pm
Put up the wrong second picture, here is the right one
:lol you had too much Christmas spirit already?

Whatever gave you that impression?  :b
Just a stab in the dark :b :)

foc.............i thought that was a "spot the 10 differences" competition...been up all night and not found one   :o

:rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 24 December 2015, 03:51:14 pm
 :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: joebloggs on 25 December 2015, 08:52:46 am
Pictures of him unwrapping his big toy please
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 25 December 2015, 08:55:56 am
Must of opened it by now...at 13 I was up at 5   :eek
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 25 December 2015, 09:45:15 am
Must of opened it by now...at 13 I was up at 5   :eek
At 13 I was up early too but unfortunately he doesn't stay with me as I'm separated, so I'll need to wait till he comes over later :(
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 25 December 2015, 10:02:28 am
So...who's more excited......you or your son   :lol........fantastic present, have a great day    :thumbup
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: mickvp on 25 December 2015, 02:55:55 pm
Looking forward to seeing the beast Colin :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 26 December 2015, 07:21:13 pm
One happy boy :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: His Dudeness on 26 December 2015, 07:29:36 pm
Nice one. Give the carb a clean and put a new battery and he'll be flyin around in no time
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 26 December 2015, 07:32:03 pm
 :woot :thumbup
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 26 December 2015, 07:41:23 pm
Nice one. Give the carb a clean and put a new battery and he'll be flyin around in no time
I'll need to look into how to clean the carb but battery is on a list of things I'll need to get for it :)
:woot :thumbup

Yeah he looks happy with it :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: mickvp on 26 December 2015, 09:25:14 pm
Looks ace Colin :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 26 December 2015, 09:53:27 pm
Looks ace Colin :)
Cheers Mick, bit of work needing done but not bad considering it's been sitting in a guys garage for years not running, so a wee bit of father/son bonding to boot :woot
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: red98 on 27 December 2015, 06:56:35 am
Great pics sinto  :thumbup........some bikes will run without batterys, check for spark to see  ;)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 10:35:18 am
Great pics sinto  :thumbup........some bikes will run without batterys, check for spark to see  ;)
Got a few hugs too :thumbup so he's well chuffed, he couldn't wait to post it on fb :lol
Yeah it's got a kick-start too but also an ignition but I don't have the key :thumbdown  so I don't know if there connected somehow but there is compression and spark plugs looks new but it'll all be checked in due course :)
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 04:01:50 pm
Righto, thinking caps on guys.....

The thing I really need help with is with the wiring from the ignition, see pics but basically 4 wires and I can connect the black and red and the bike turns over.
The other two wires don't seem to do anything when connected but there's a kill switch on the bike and I'm wondering if these could be anything to do with that as I'm not getting a spark although the plug looks good.
It's an electronic sealed coil so I can't really check that as no tester.
So if you guys have any ideas to help that would be great. Appreciate you might not want to say how to hot wire a bike on here so just pm me any of your ideas, cheers.
First pic is from the ignition switch of which I don't have a key, 2nd pic is what's in the wiring loom of the bike.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 27 December 2015, 05:48:12 pm
What colour wires come from the Ignition Coil?
What colour wires come from the stator: (left side of engine)
What colour wire/s come from the kill switch.
Is there a black wire with a doulbe connector on it?
Most  Chinese pit bike use green as earth.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 06:28:31 pm
What colour wires come from the Ignition Coil? green & black/white
What colour wires come from the stator: (left side of engine)  green & red/white (both heavy wires)
What colour wire/s come from the kill switch. green & black/white & black & green/white
Is there a black wire with a doulbe connector on it?  yes, but only on the wires coming from the ignition switch
Most  Chinese pit bike use green as earth.
yes,I read that somewhere else and realised that when I took out the battery.

I'm now getting a spark :) only when I connect the red and black on the main loom, when I connect the other two I don't get a spark .
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 27 December 2015, 06:41:38 pm
Forgot to ask, does the CDI unit have a 4, 5 or 6 way Plug?

Does it have a key ignition switch???
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 06:58:46 pm
Forgot to ask, does the CDI unit have a 4, 5 or 6 way Plug?

Does it have a key ignition switch???
5 way plug

Black/white
Black/yellow
Black/red
Blue/yellow
Green

Yes it has a ignition key switch but unfortunately I don't have the key, I've tried some keys I had lying around but no joy, I don't know if these are universal keys or I'll need to buy a new ignition set.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 27 December 2015, 07:16:52 pm
2, 3 or 4 wires from the ignition switch and what colour?

If it has a battery it will have a small rectifier/regulator.

There should be a pick up wire or 2 from the engine, what colour are they.


Post as many pictures as possible of any connectors. there are a number of pit bikes which are wired differently, it is just trying to figure out which one you have.


Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 07:33:52 pm
2, 3 or 4 wires from the ignition switch and what colour?

If it has a battery it will have a small rectifier/regulator.

There should be a pick up wire or 2 from the engine, what colour are they.


Post as many pictures as possible of any connectors. there are a number of pit bikes which are wired differently, it is just trying to figure out which one you have.
Reply #60 
First pic is from the ignition switch of which I don't have a key, 2nd pic is what's in the wiring loom of the bike.
That's the ignition barrel wires, I'll get more posted soon
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 07:39:32 pm
From the front of the bike.....
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 07:53:58 pm
More
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Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 07:56:15 pm
More
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 08:00:54 pm
Sorry I can't write what I think they are as my pics only go in at end of post but hopefully you'll see what you need?
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 27 December 2015, 08:17:27 pm
Colin

email them to me  patj_duggan@yahoo.co.uk


Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 27 December 2015, 08:36:42 pm
Colin

email them to me  patj_duggan@yahoo.co.uk
Have sent a few, cheers.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 27 December 2015, 09:55:08 pm
Got them, give me a while to go through them and I should be able to sort something out on it.

It has a working starter and need to bypass the Key switch I presume.

It has petrol in it ?? :lol


Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 28 December 2015, 07:01:47 am
Got them, give me a while to go through them and I should be able to sort something out on it.

It has a working starter and need to bypass the Key switch I presume.

It has petrol in it ?? :lol
Cheers but there's no rush tbh it's a project so I can work with my boy and he can learn about bikes (I'm learning to :) )

The starter is turning over, the piston is going up and down, there is compression but there was no spark at the original time of writing but there is now.

The carburettor is off the bike as I wanted to see how bad/good it was as I knew the bike had been lying for a few years. Since looking at it in detail I'll need to order another one. So there is no petrol in the system, originally I wanted to know if I could bypass the ignition switch and kill switch as I didn't have a key.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 28 December 2015, 06:17:10 pm
Can you check the wires from the ignition switch with a meter?
is there a short across the green and one other wire with the switch in its present state?

If you do not have a meter a battery and bulb will do the trick
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 28 December 2015, 07:02:26 pm
Can you check the wires from the ignition switch with a meter?
the switch can't be moved as I've no key
is there a short across the green and one other wire with the switch in its present state?
I've disconnected the ignition switch at the connector at the back and then connected the black and red wires together on the bikes wiring loom side, and connected my battery from my bike, after doing this I was able to press the starter switch on the handlebar and it turned over

If you do not have a meter a battery and bulb will do the trick

I think I'll put the carburettor back on, put some fuel in it and try it as above and see if it goes into action.

I found a wire in one of the connectors not inserted properly so that might be the reason it didn't start for previous owner.

In the note of the carburettor, does anyone think it's worth cleaning or just replace, it has been sitting idle for a few years and it doesn't look clean inside.
What would you clean it with?
It's approximately  £20 for a new one.
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: unfazed on 28 December 2015, 08:14:33 pm
I usually use Cellulose thinners, but take out any rubbers like seals and O Rings first.
The cellulose will damage rubber and some gasket types.

Then with everything out soak all the jets  and the carb body in the Thinners over night. Then wash it out with the thinners and reverse blow through all the orifices, but at £20 for a new one is it worth the trouble.

On some 4 wire ignition switches when on it connects 2 wiree together and when off connects the second pair of wires together, which is why I need to know if there is a short circuit between two wires in the off position



Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 03 January 2016, 07:11:01 pm
Wee update.....
Cleaned and sorted the wiring loom, :)
Split and cleaned the carburettor (temp job as need a new one me thinks) :(
Checked spark plug :)
Checked all other engine parts :)
Put some fuel in the tank

Used my bike battery to give it a try bit it won't fire up :(
Don't know if easy start will help and also need to get a new carburettor as I think old petrol has goosed the jets etc

But apart from that, my boy is learning loads and enjoying working on the bike :thumbup

So once I order the parts that's needed hopefully it'll fire up.

Anyone any idea what size of carburettor I should get? I think it's a 22mm that's on it but been told I can get a 24mm for extra ooomph but can only seem to get them from USA or either a 26mm from UK, as far as I know I can only fit a MIKUNA one on it but I'm not sure. :(
Title: Re: Dirt bike/motocross
Post by: sinto on 03 February 2016, 10:21:06 pm
Well, eventually got all the parts and got them fitted and with all the other stuff happening to me I got the thing started :thumbup
Not running sweet but it's a start, a wee fine adjustment here or there and it'll be good to go me thinks :)
My boy's delighted and that's the main thing in my book.

https://youtu.be/jbIMvkkKISY