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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: joebloggs on 27 November 2015, 01:05:08 pm

Title: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 27 November 2015, 01:05:08 pm
Got the dremmel out and some masking tape and lightened (butchered) the rear mudguard, may cut it down further after seeing all the webbing etc Yamaha designed into the thing but for now its finished bar a bit of sanding here and there

Masked

(http://s19.postimg.org/b7d7ovm7n/WP_20151127_001.jpg)

Getting there

(http://s19.postimg.org/nkq1vsbw3/WP_20151127_003.jpg)

Indicator mount points

(http://s19.postimg.org/rftfycv1v/WP_20151127_004.jpg)

Indicators fitted, may need to space them out a few mm as almost obscured by the numberplate

(http://s19.postimg.org/ttbdpd9gz/WP_20151127_010.jpg)

Rear cut down

(http://s19.postimg.org/jlsucyn8z/WP_20151127_006.jpg)

Time for a fag and a cuppa

(http://s19.postimg.org/by5xunokz/WP_20151127_012.jpg)
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 27 November 2015, 06:19:11 pm
I cut mine down an moved the number plate up and over the reflector - refitted a separate reflector at the bottom of the plate (not shown). Didn't touch anything else though
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 27 November 2015, 06:47:44 pm
I like the way you ciut it down but the indicators I have are so small they looked out of place even with the infill's filling the original holes.

Is your numberplate virtually vertical?
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 28 November 2015, 12:56:34 pm
No its about the same angle but looking from the side you (as in YOU ) may want to fill in the gap as the plate spans the orig fixing point and the reflector, but I have to say I have never really noticed it until I looked at this picture, offer yours up the same and see what you think, I used the same fixing holes in the mudguard and brought a new plate as the holes in the old one were now in the wrong place.
Sorry photo is a bit small as it was cropped from a bigger one 
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 28 November 2015, 09:26:47 pm
No its about the same angle but looking from the side you (as in YOU ) may want to fill in the gap as the plate spans the orig fixing point and the reflector, but I have to say I have never really noticed it until I looked at this picture, offer yours up the same and see what you think, I used the same fixing holes in the mudguard and brought a new plate as the holes in the old one were now in the wrong place.
Sorry photo is a bit small as it was cropped from a bigger one

I see what you mean, mine stands out even more as the rear is so heavily chopped up :wall

Never mind, I have a plan, some sticky back plastic and some old fairy liquid bottles and it'll be good as new.

No, but I think if I remove the rest of the guard leaving only the tray that the CDI sits in, I may be able to cut the back and slope it forward 45 deg, plastic welding it in place, and mounting the plate directly to that, watch this space (or the adds looking for a replacement if it all goes pete tong)
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: Nebuchernezzer on 29 November 2015, 02:42:46 am
I'm planning on the same, was going to make an angled numberplate mount out if thin sheet metal and screw it through where the reflector currently is. I like where you've moved your indicators too, I was thinking about where to relocate them just the other day, got some little ked ones in mind too.
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 29 November 2015, 11:11:53 am
I'm planning on the same, was going to make an angled numberplate mount out if thin sheet metal and screw it through where the reflector currently is. I like where you've moved your indicators too, I was thinking about where to relocate them just the other day, got some little ked ones in mind too.


If you cut off the mounts off the subframe for those rear hooks (the ones that swivel) you could mount the indicators even higher although hardly worth the effort.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171853416732?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171853416732?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

I'm now considering a bracket mounted in the same way rather than messing around with the shape of the undertray, its a bloody awkward shape to try to bend and also keep water tight to protect the CDI

Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 29 November 2015, 01:39:36 pm
Cut the guard down further, difficult to loose a line where the lower part of the guard meets the tray for CDI, think it would take a lot of work to lose it completely so may just have to stay as it is

(http://s19.postimg.org/vqipv367n/WP_20151129_002.jpg)

The small tube protruding from the bottom contains a fastener, unless I run you over your not really going to notice it :eek

(http://s19.postimg.org/4engtr1gz/WP_20151129_003.jpg)

(http://s19.postimg.org/w0q8efktv/WP_20151129_005.jpg)

I think it looks better than my 1st attempt

Just need to knock up a bracket for the numberplate
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 29 November 2015, 08:19:20 pm
is there much point in severely cutting down the guard at the back (not sides) when there is going to be a number plate there anyway
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 29 November 2015, 08:23:47 pm
is there much point in severely cutting down the guard at the back (not sides) when there is going to be a number plate there anyway

Probably not but from the side view it looks tidier, well in my opinion
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 29 November 2015, 08:46:26 pm
is there much point in severely cutting down the guard at the back (not sides) when there is going to be a number plate there anyway

Probably not but from the side view it looks tidier, well in my opinion
?????  :evil
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 29 November 2015, 09:03:58 pm
The wiring was just pulled through to test. Will be cable tied up and out of view before refitting tail piece
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 29 November 2015, 09:19:51 pm
Just teasing - I know its work in progress, I look forward to seeing it in real life when its done, we should go for a ride
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 29 November 2015, 09:29:04 pm
If I pulled my finger out I could finish it in a week or so but winter's just kicking in so not much point rushing
Yeah will take you up on that. Just don't expect it to happen before April 16
I've a set of upside-down forks tucked away in the shed. Trying not to think about fitting them but will see how much will power I have....
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 04 December 2015, 10:05:08 pm
took these the other day for you. You can only see the gap if you look exactly side on, and then its not much
 
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: His Dudeness on 05 December 2015, 07:15:52 pm
Nice paint job!
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 05 December 2015, 08:14:55 pm
Nice paint job!

Wasn't sure about it to start with but it grew on me!
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: His Dudeness on 06 December 2015, 08:48:07 am
Definitely a risk painting it anything other than standard colours but looks a good quality job. what colour wheels have you got?
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 06 December 2015, 03:13:13 pm
The wheels are black with polished rims. The swing arm and a few other parts are either polished, matte black or both. Not sure its going to be every ones cup of tea but works for me


Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: Tefer on 11 December 2015, 11:18:12 am
Previous owner done this to my bike, my only advice is don't ride in the rain. The mudguard is there for a reason and with mine being gone as soon as its wet the spray comes over the back and down the seat. Have contemplated changing the whole section but looks like a royal pain.
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 11 December 2015, 04:45:13 pm
A hugger sorts out most of that issue
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 11 December 2015, 10:32:52 pm
A hugger sorts out most of that issue

Removed that too.......   :wall :wall :wall

Don't ride in the rain or the spray off the wheels will land on your seat?

Its focin raining, its going to land there either way!
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 14 December 2015, 08:20:18 pm

(http://s19.postimg.org/ozpf6pp9v/number_plate_bracket.png)
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 14 December 2015, 08:23:55 pm
Well that tried my patient's, sometimes something's are so bloody simple its impossible to see it for what it is. Anyway the mock-up fitted, lets hope it works the same in steel.
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: Nebuchernezzer on 16 December 2015, 01:09:00 am
I'll be interested to see it on the bike!
I've put some LED indicators on my xmas list...if they show up then i'll be looking into cutting down the rear area some more too!
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 21 December 2015, 07:15:24 pm
Got this through the post this morning, cannot fault LaserFast for service, bloody amazing turn around time.

Popped into work and had it bent and lined it up to see if it fits, bloody miracle, right first time.  Well close enough!

No time to fit it today but took a couple of pic's with it held in place

Must admit to over engineering it and 1mm would have been plenty, well least it wont rust through in a hurry

(http://s19.postimg.org/uks4t7u43/WP_20151221_001.jpg)



(http://s19.postimg.org/5hb297whf/WP_20151221_004.jpg)
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 21 December 2015, 07:46:11 pm
Looking good but just one incy wincy allmost stupid - its so trivial thing, and I only say this because you seem to be a perfectionist is---
It may of been better to drill the holes for the plate later just to be sure the plastic bolts do not hit a number or letter, I know you can get black bolts for that but all in the yellow would look better.
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 21 December 2015, 08:31:12 pm
I hear what your saying but I'm just planning on fixing the plate on with two stainless steel button heads. Never been an isse in the past and my ocd prefers them to be evenly spaced
One thing I should have done was to have spreader plates with captive nuts cut for the inside of the plastic tray they're going to be bolted through
Will put them on the next cutting list
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: fazersharp on 21 December 2015, 08:40:10 pm
I would still go with the normal yellow/black plastic ones - at last they "disappear"

The part looks like bushed stainless steel are you keeping it like that
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 21 December 2015, 09:11:42 pm
It's mild steel. Will be getting a coat of matte black paint for now. Want to loose it under the tailpiece. Way I see it is if nobody comments on it then I've achieved my objective
Title: Re: Shorty rear guard (DIY)
Post by: joebloggs on 22 December 2015, 08:27:23 pm
Gave it a quick coat of paint just for the pictures, think powder coat will be best considering the battering with will get sat behind the wheel.

Its not perfect but not to bad for 1st attempt, if you look at the back near the light it's just below the line of the tailpiece, with the plate on it'll be difficult to spot and even then you'd need to be on your knee's to see it. The tapes only holding the rear in position as I haven't the right fasteners and they're a bit awkward to tighten up so left them off for now.

Lot of messing around just to cover up the dodgy cut down rear guard but hey

Fazersharp. When I drill my old plate I'll see where the bolt holes land and may re-drill the bracket if I'm not keen, will have to wait, beer o'clock

(http://s19.postimg.org/6n1qm5xkj/WP_20151222_001.jpg)
Above picture, bracket sitting low due to not being fastened
(http://s19.postimg.org/67qgt5bn7/WP_20151222_005.jpg)

(http://s19.postimg.org/ascn82vcj/WP_20151222_007.jpg)