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General => General => Topic started by: joebloggs on 13 November 2015, 01:23:50 pm
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I don't know who watched the videos, whether it was actually him carrying out the barbaric acts but either way hopefully justice finally caught up with him and I hope all his virgins are pig ugly
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQqQIwAmoVChMIrtO9qr6NyQIVi-sUCh32mQDm&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fuk-news%2F2015%2Fnov%2F13%2Fus-air-strike-targets-mohammed-emwazi-uk-terrorist-known-as-jihadi-john&usg=AFQjCNHy8Uq6IujFgIb9w2SAuFF5q6PkXA (https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCgQqQIwAmoVChMIrtO9qr6NyQIVi-sUCh32mQDm&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fuk-news%2F2015%2Fnov%2F13%2Fus-air-strike-targets-mohammed-emwazi-uk-terrorist-known-as-jihadi-john&usg=AFQjCNHy8Uq6IujFgIb9w2SAuFF5q6PkXA)
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I've never understood why anyone would want virgins anyway. Give me a woman with experience any time.
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What no one told them is that the 40 virgins are all fat middle aged males playing World of Warcraft 20 hours a day!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5tDt3-3RWas/UHZBYjZmyQI/AAAAAAAAECo/En-GQScgKRw/s1600/WOW+player.jpg)
The only sad thing about him dying is that it was probably very swift and painless due to a missile destroying his car :-(
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good bloody tosser
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I'm with Harry. Way, way too quick. Death by a thousand cuts would've been better.
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So, our government can take part in a blatant execution with Cameron going public to justify it, yet we still have a Royal Marine sergeant, Al Blackman serving a life sentence for doing just the same, except the insurgent he shot was mortally wounded or maybe even dead at the time. No one knows as crucial defence evidence was not excepted as it was a kangaroo court martial. Makes me sick.
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I wonder if he has now realised there are no virgins and allah has been telling porkies? Glad another idiot has been removed from the planet :)
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Good foccing riddance!!! Although I doubt the families of those he murdered feel this is justice
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I think it would have been good to put him through the courts in either Iraq or Syria, death would have come much more slowly but whether he was blown to piece's or hung from the end of a rope the end result is the same. The world isn't safer without him in it but its no great loss to mankind
Lets hope the next on the list are those who are guilty of brain washing Muslims and teaching them that its ok to carry out such terrible acts in the name of Mohammed
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I wonder if he has now realised there are no virgins and allah has been telling porkies? Glad another idiot has been removed from the planet :)
Is allah allowed to tell "porkies" :)
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Wankers have just kicked off in France again by the looks of things. :(
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Lets hope the next on the list are those who are guilty of brain washing Muslims and teaching them that its ok to carry out such terrible acts in the name of Mohammed
How about Tony Bliar?
How about George Bush?
And don't forget this country, Great Britain, flew it's flags at half mast, and sent our PM and Prince Charles to pay tribute to the late King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, the country that has funded, sponsored and nurtured the Wahhabist movement that eventually gave birth to IS.
Jihadi John is dead. Bid deal, frankly who gives a fuck.
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I heard he was not dead he has moved to Glasgow looking for VNA. No doubt VNA will not give a fuck either about those totally guilty French people who dared to be out this evening getting on with there lives and how dare they may have been enjoying themselves,
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I think the french have made themselves a target, banning the Hijab, their stance on Charlie Hebdo illustrations. I understand this is no reason to murder 60 + people but no one else is being attacked
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I heard he was not dead he has moved to Glasgow looking for VNA. No doubt VNA will not give a fuck either about those totally guilty French people who dared to be out this evening getting on with there lives and how dare they may have been enjoying themselves,
I was actually thinking myself that VNA could possibly be a total PRIZE CNUT and he didn't let me down!
What a reliable knob jockey!
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I hate terrorism and any other form of bullying and im glad that that tosser jilted john got his just deserts. What happened in Paris last night is as cowardly an act as ive ever heard of and for the perpetrators i wish their god does exist cos their god abhors murder as much as we do. VNA has got a point, the americans suppord isreal and are desperate to proffit from all the worlds oil.their greed has created the situation in the middle east that gave birth to this shit and tony blair and others greed supported them. what goes around comes around and all the time arms dealers get richer. It was only a few weeks ago that cameron signed of an arms deal worth billions.
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I think the french have made themselves a target, banning the Hijab, their stance on Charlie Hebdo illustrations. I understand this is no reason to murder 60 + people but no one else is being attacked
No one else is being attacked , so the Russian Plane just fell out off the sky, the 35? Brits who were murdered in Tunsia this year, the 194 innocent people in Madrid a few years ago , yea no one else is being attacked. France has banned the Hijab, get it right France has banned the open display of any religion not just Muslims.
So you are advocating that freedom of speech should be banned as well. If you live in a western country you should wear western dress.
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You state we should have freedom of speech then contradict yourself saying that every one should dress in western clothing
Would you walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody nigger?
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I think the french have made themselves a target, banning the Hijab, their stance on Charlie Hebdo illustrations. I understand this is no reason to murder 60 + people but no one else is being attacked
Funny ain't it: Suadi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE have pretty strident laws on lots of things western culture takes for granted: booze, consumption of pork etc and can dish out fairly stiff penalties to those who break the law yet I don't see westerners shooting up the place. The French haven't brought this on by introducing laws, perhaps being far too tolerant and accepting is the problem. RIP all these dead folk.
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Don't worry we'll be next. :(
imho france got it tight because it is an easier target with large open borders and their intelligence services haven't been able to pin these foccers in time......luckily for us we have a smaller area to cover, the English channel and better intelligence but it is pretty clear that something will inevitably slip through the battered net.
stand by everyone...not an if but when.......and it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done......if you aren't Islamic then you are a target....simple as that.
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I dont think being a muslim will help noggy cos those cyclepaths have killed thousands of them. I recon your right about it coming our way as i believe that a good portion of the refugees from syria are up to no good :( . i still feel sorry for the inocent ones but how do you tell the difference before they go bang.
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Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
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Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Spot on; like that idiot 'Human rights' lawyer at CAGE who was all loved up about Nazi Jihadi John and kept banging on about his right to be a complete islamofascist. There's a strong case for interning the lawyer for being an enemy of the state and the people.
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Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Bri has a point....skin colour or religion doesn't seem to have helped in Iraq or Syria....although allot is said about Shiite and sunni....seems to be the excuse behind allot of it.
I actually don't believe the rubbish that the majority of muslims and other minority groups involved are so against the evils...did they do a poll of every single person including thousands of illegals??... did they ask them......do you a love the uk...b hate the uk....or c....say you love the uk but secretly are plotting against it..........it's a completely made up statistic.as you say...what the foc are they doing about it...nothing.....they passively condone it by allowing it to continue amongst their ranks......they preach it behind closed doors to their families...the women don't get any say whatsoever so that's a big chunk of their populations opinions or views completely void before you even get to the blokes...kind of like the rest of us who moan about politicians all day long and then go and elect them....we have become a spineless population led by baffoons and we continue to sleepwalk straight into disaster.
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I think one of the biggest contributions to this shit is the wahabbi nonsense but it comes from Saudi Arabia and they sell us their oil so its ok :\
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Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
The security services know who a lot of these people are already but their hands are tied because of so called human rights laws and the do gooders who think it is acceptable to kill totally innocent people.
Bri has a point....skin colour or religion doesn't seem to have helped in Iraq or Syria....although allot is said about Shiite and sunni....seems to be the excuse behind allot of it.
I actually don't believe the rubbish that the majority of muslims and other minority groups involved are so against the evils...did they do a poll of every single person including thousands of illegals??... did they ask them......do you a love the uk...b hate the uk....or c....say you love the uk but secretly are plotting against it..........it's a completely made up statistic.as you say...what the foc are they doing about it...nothing.....they passively condone it by allowing it to continue amongst their ranks......they preach it behind closed doors to their families...the women don't get any say whatsoever so that's a big chunk of their populations opinions or views completely void before you even get to the blokes...kind of like the rest of us who moan about politicians all day long and then go and elect them....we have become a spineless population led by baffoons and we continue to sleepwalk straight into disaster.
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You state we should have freedom of speech then contradict yourself saying that every one should dress in western clothing
Would you walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody nigger?
No I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so. But there in lies a problem perhaps we would create more understanding if there were no such things as predominantly Black , White or any other ethnic melting pot. In places like Saudi Arabia, Iran etc there is no such thing as free speech or even freedom of dress code. The west is far to tolerant but I think the goal posts may just have been moved last night.
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No I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so.
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Nice one Lew.
Aye there was poor DC standing in front of No.10 with his chest puffed oot - 'We've got Jihadi John' and I'm gonna milk this for all it is politically worth. But then.......
Yes what has just happened in France is an absolute outrage. It is absolutely disgusting.
luckily for us we have a smaller area to cover, the English channel and better intelligence
Yes being a small island has it's advantages. It also reduces the chances of any of the small arms that we are happy to sell to pretty much anybody around the world slipping back onto our shores.
But better intelligence? I ain't so sure about that. And certainly the French had the good sense to have nothing to do with the 2003 invasion of Iraq - why because they knew, indeed they were absolutely certain that our 'intelligence' was bull shit. In fact most of the people in our intelligence services, at least the people that count, knew our intelligence was bull shit.
stand by everyone...not an if but when.......and it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done......if you aren't Islamic then you are a target....simple as that.
Absolutely, it's gonna happen again, and again. And they don't give a shit who you are, not even being Islamic will save you.
But meanwhile,
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/ (https://www.iraqbodycount.org/)
Total so far - 224,000
Recent events;
Recent Events Friday 13 November: 51 killed. Baghdad: 32 by suicide bomber, IEDs and gunfire; 2 bodies.
Sinjar: 10 executed.
Baaj: 4 executed.
Yusufiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 lawyer by gunfire.
Thursday 12 November: 13 killed Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire.
Tuz Khurmato: 5 in clashes.
Tuz: 1 doctor by gunfire.
Wednesday 11 November: 109 killed Mosul: 7 family members in coalition air strike; 60 executed.
Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Tal Afar: 7 in coalition air strikes; 1 executed.
Hawija: 15 in Iraqi army air strikes.
Albu Fahad: 5 family members in booby-trapped house.
Shirqat: 1 by gunfire; 1 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Basra: 2 by gunfire.
Tuesday 10 November: 19 killed Baghdad: 16 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Alexandria: 1 body.
Al-Salam: 1 by IED.
Monday 9 November: 25 killed. Baghdad: 7 by IEDs; 1 body.
Qayyarah: 11 by coalition air strikes.
Mosul: 3 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 by IED.
Sunday 8 November: 27 killed Baghdad: 15 by IEDs, gunfire; 3 bodies.
Mosul: 3 executed for theft.
Hamam al-Alil: 3 doctors executed.
Yusufiya: 1 by IED.
Latifiya: 1 by gunfire.
Wajihiya: 1 body.
Saturday 7 November: 23 killed. Baghdad: 8 by IEDs; 6 bodies.
Tarmiya: 3 policemen by suicide bomber.
Kara Tepe: 3 by IEDs.
Mahmudiya: 2 by AED.
Kirkuk: 1 body.
Just saying.
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No I would not walk into a predominantly black area and call everybody a nigger, but I defend my right to do so.
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Nice one Lew.
Aye there was poor DC standing in front of No.10 with his chest puffed oot - 'We've got Jihadi John' and I'm gonna milk this for all it is politically worth. But then.......
Yes what has just happened in France is an absolute outrage. It is absolutely disgusting.
luckily for us we have a smaller area to cover, the English channel and better intelligence
Yes being a small island has it's advantages. It also reduces the chances of any of the small arms that we are happy to sell to pretty much anybody around the world slipping back onto our shores.
But better intelligence? I ain't so sure about that. And certainly the French had the good sense to have nothing to do with the 2003 invasion of Iraq - why because they knew, indeed they were absolutely certain that our 'intelligence' was bull shit. In fact most of the people in our intelligence services, at least the people that count, knew our intelligence was bull shit.
stand by everyone...not an if but when.......and it doesn't matter what you have or haven't done......if you aren't Islamic then you are a target....simple as that.
Absolutely, it's gonna happen again, and again. And they don't give a shit who you are, not even being Islamic will save you.
But meanwhile,
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/ (https://www.iraqbodycount.org/)
Total so far - 224,000
Recent events;
Recent Events Friday 13 November: 51 killed. Baghdad: 32 by suicide bomber, IEDs and gunfire; 2 bodies.
Sinjar: 10 executed.
Baaj: 4 executed.
Yusufiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 lawyer by gunfire.
Thursday 12 November: 13 killed Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire.
Tuz Khurmato: 5 in clashes.
Tuz: 1 doctor by gunfire.
Wednesday 11 November: 109 killed Mosul: 7 family members in coalition air strike; 60 executed.
Baghdad: 7 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Tal Afar: 7 in coalition air strikes; 1 executed.
Hawija: 15 in Iraqi army air strikes.
Albu Fahad: 5 family members in booby-trapped house.
Shirqat: 1 by gunfire; 1 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Basra: 2 by gunfire.
Tuesday 10 November: 19 killed Baghdad: 16 by IEDs, gunfire; 1 body.
Alexandria: 1 body.
Al-Salam: 1 by IED.
Monday 9 November: 25 killed. Baghdad: 7 by IEDs; 1 body.
Qayyarah: 11 by coalition air strikes.
Mosul: 3 executed.
Tarmiya: 2 by IED.
Hibhib: 1 by IED.
Sunday 8 November: 27 killed Baghdad: 15 by IEDs, gunfire; 3 bodies.
Mosul: 3 executed for theft.
Hamam al-Alil: 3 doctors executed.
Yusufiya: 1 by IED.
Latifiya: 1 by gunfire.
Wajihiya: 1 body.
Saturday 7 November: 23 killed. Baghdad: 8 by IEDs; 6 bodies.
Tarmiya: 3 policemen by suicide bomber.
Kara Tepe: 3 by IEDs.
Mahmudiya: 2 by AED.
Kirkuk: 1 body.
Just saying.
At no time was anyone with a shred of common sense convinced about the Iraq invasion - when experts like Hans Blick were saying no WMD, still Blair kept saying 45 minutes to attack us (actually Cyprus) - I never bought the lie, not once. I will never, ever for the life of me understand how Labour maintained a majority at the 2005 GE after what that lying scumbag did to the Iraqis and our troops. And Chilcott will only be establishment revisionism with Blair and cronies getting their tentacles into it.
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Iraq is currently pretty fucked up as highlighted by your stats there vna...not a nice place to be......especially for the pussies supposed to be defending it who appear to just run away...i hope those kurds are better appreciated after it all for being the only ones to bother.....the others, .they live there & even they cant be bothered defending the shithole...clearly religion isnt providing them with a pair of balls whereby most of our combat infantry with barely a religious bone between them would ive no doubt put in a good effort if faced with such an invasion force...
But anyway maybe thats not fair as like you say we wrongly invaded iraq in the first place which i dont disagree with but it wasnt based on our intelligence sources being crap...you can lead the horse to water n all that...there was obviously a will at the time to manipulate information for desired outcome at the time.....i still stand by our intelligence services being supreme and i firmly believe that they have already thwarted multiple attacks in the UK whereby france seems less capable to do so.
Im pro millitary.......just as well those weapons we sell werent slipping back over here coz id be up for owning some of that serious hardware & eating into my bike fund to defend myself against these arseholes........ok the usa dont exactly have a good record at the moment with firearms but ive always thought there would need to be a god for anyone daft enough to invade them.....hillbillies, pensioners & general hoo yas everywhere & armed to the teeth & all backed up with a much looser but no less empowering sense of crazy godliness.....thats before they even encounter the millitary......at least they stand up for themselves.....and so where are the jihadis going.....europe...land of the gimps...easy pickings.
I dont pretend that our fine countrys interests abroad are innocent.......i understand we have "interests"....maybe we torture a few here and there........bit it pales into insignificance when you have a group routinely chopping off heads and raping children...thats a different realm altogether........and 1 less murdering rapist in this world can only be a good thing.
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Noggy for PM --- no president of the world (I don't jest )
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Iraq is currently pretty fucked up as highlighted by your stats there vna...not a nice place to be.
Indeed, and it's 'our' mess.
As is Afghanistan, and Libya, not to mention Syria.
On top of that our friends in the M.E. are the very people who created, nurtured, promoted and funded the Wahhabism movement around the globe.
Further, Iran proved, some years ago, to many in the M.E that if you wish to be free of western tyranny then religious fanaticism is one way to go - it worked. And do please note that, Iran, part of Bush's axis of evil, as far as I can remember has invaded no other country and shows no signs of wishing to do so.
The Turkish attitude/issue towards the Kurds is a major issue, and one reason why IS can possibly access Europe fairly easily.
Of course the Kurds know they are being used by the west. But what choice have they got, but I rather doubt they see us as friends. The Peshmerga are reasonably competent at times, but the real hard core fighters are within the KPP, unfortunately the UK and USA have listed them as a terrorist organisation.
i still stand by our intelligence services being supreme
Full of extremely intelligent people dishing out incredibly dumb advice.
Our foreign policy over the last few decades - well you'd have to try hard to come up with anything dumber - or more murderous.
And what foccing use anyway is an 'intelligence' service that is prepared to allow lunatic politicians to tell them what to put in their reports! Doh.
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just as well those weapons we sell werent slipping back over here coz..........
DC has made it clear that economic considerations come before human rights.
That basically means selling arms to whoever wants em.
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they should have had him done up the wrong un, then tortured the fucking tosser, SCUM.
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Not defending Blair here but has to be said up to the 11th hour he tried to persuade Bush not to go into Iraq. Bush told him fuck you we will do it without you. I do not know what hold the USA has over the UK but we ended up going in. Wrongly in my opinion by the way.
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This issue has everything to do with politics and nothing to do with race, religion or culture. Religion divides people and was created to make people behave and have a god who made them behave in a civilised manner, but now all religions hate each other, which has caused trouble all over the world. I may sound extreme, but i don't believe in religion as it was made to control the masses.
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Totally agree, and when religion doesn' t do the job then in step the politicians.
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I'm sure politicians and the ruling classes have used religion as tool to bend people to their will since the beginning of time. IS however have gone beyond this in the same way the nazis did.They have changed islam into an excuse to murder rape and destroy. The whole world regardless of religion or nationality need to unite and remove them from the face of the earth. Is on the other hand carry out these atrocities to get a rection that they can use to show the west are the bad guys. Having served in the Navy I'm against the use of extreme violence but in this case they should be treated like the cancer they are and removed.
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Of course I should point out that dropping bombs on innocent people only helps the arms dealers.
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I wish the press etc would stop using the term Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist etc all this does is enforce peoples oppinion's that all Muslims are bad people, sure they are culturally different, but is this really an issue.
A couple of years ago I went to Diwali in Leicester, my friends at work though I was mad to even consider going, although it was they who missed out. My girlfriend and I were treat like gods, people giving us treats and drinks or suggesting what to buy. We were almost carried by an excited crowd to the park where there were dancers, music and an amazing fireworks display, fantastic night out and at no time did we feel unwanted or uncomfortable.
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I wish the press etc would stop using the term Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist etc all this does is enforce peoples oppinion's that all Muslims are bad people, sure they are culturally different, but is this really an issue.
A couple of years ago I went to Diwali in Leicester, my friends at work though I was mad to even consider going, although it was they who missed out. My girlfriend and I were treat like gods, people giving us treats and drinks or suggesting what to buy. We were almost carried by an excited crowd to the park where there were dancers, music and an amazing fireworks display, fantastic night out and at no time did we feel unwanted or uncomfortable.
Diwali is a HINDU FESTIVAL ;)
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I wish the press etc would stop using the term Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist etc all this does is enforce peoples oppinion's that all Muslims are bad people, sure they are culturally different, but is this really an issue.
A couple of years ago I went to Diwali in Leicester, my friends at work though I was mad to even consider going, although it was they who missed out. My girlfriend and I were treat like gods, people giving us treats and drinks or suggesting what to buy. We were almost carried by an excited crowd to the park where there were dancers, music and an amazing fireworks display, fantastic night out and at no time did we feel unwanted or uncomfortable.
I know it's the Hindu festival of light, was just saying its time people embraced the cultural difference's instead of picking fault
Diwali is a HINDU FESTIVAL ;)
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I wish the press etc would stop using the term Islamic fundamentalist, terrorist etc all this does is enforce peoples oppinion's that all Muslims are bad people, sure they are culturally different, but is this really an issue.
A couple of years ago I went to Diwali in Leicester, my friends at work though I was mad to even consider going, although it was they who missed out. My girlfriend and I were treat like gods, people giving us treats and drinks or suggesting what to buy. We were almost carried by an excited crowd to the park where there were dancers, music and an amazing fireworks display, fantastic night out and at no time did we feel unwanted or uncomfortable.
I know it's the Hindu festival of light, was just saying its time people embraced the cultural difference's instead of picking fault
Diwali is a HINDU FESTIVAL ;)
Apart from Ramadam cos I'd feckin waste away.
And a +1 for Noggy at No.10 :thumbup
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was just saying its time people embraced the cultural difference's instead of picking fault
Why? The more I see of "multiculturalism", the less I like it. Why should you be able to tell me to embrace it?
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Ok then if we are to embrace multiculturism then when will all the muslims over here do so?
Take a trip through Bradford and see how much it is embraced there is some areas, some parts are now no go areas for a non muslim.
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That kinda reminds me of a revealing wee moment at work some years ago.
Back then I read The Glasgow Herald. I turned the page and here was this picture of a Scottish Pakistani family standing in front of their highland house in full highland dress along with an article. I have to say the picture brought a smile to my face - it looked somewhat unusual to say the least.
Anyway the story was of a Scottish Asian family who had lived in a highland village for a couple of generations or so. At one village event - a wedding or something - one villager got talking to another. The Asian villager confessed that he didn't always feel 100% comfortable at such events. On enquiring why, the gentleman explained that well, they, the white Scottish villagers had their highland dress and traditions etc and all, and that though they were (the Asian family) always made to feel welcome at such events, it's just at times they felt a tiny wee bit like outsiders. The other man was taken aback, and the conversation spread, and over a few days spread round the village.
The long and short of it was, that with the help and support of all in the village, our Scottish Asian family commissioned and registered their own family tartan, and hence the half page photo in my paper.
I held the paper up in the mess room at work "Check this out lads". I was stunned by the response;
Fucking Pakkis! Who the fuck do they think they are? Send the fuckers back home etc etc. A whole barrage of abuse. Pure hatred.
Ok then if we are to embrace multiculturism then when will all the muslims over here do so?
Integration works two ways. You can only integrate if you are accepted. So the answer to your question is racism slappy.
Whats needed is for all the peaceful muslims to rise up, kick the hate preachers out of the mosques and schools and say enough is enough, strangely they never do that, makes you wonder why.
And what is it that IS want? They want us to turn on our Muslim brothers and sisters, they want us all, just like you, to blame the wider Muslim community for the actions of IS. This is just the kind of racist crap that IS want to stir up.
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The problem with blaming racism is there doesn't seem to be any Hindus or Sikhs blowing themselves up on busses.I saw an Imam on tv years ago after 9 11 saying not all Muslims were terrorists but all terrorists were Muslim. Sad as it is he has a point. :(
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The paradox is that IS feed of remarks like the one I just made and make it far more xenophobic than it is. The fact is the vast majority of us are intelligent enough not to be radicalised but as I've said before the caliphate they are trying to create is evil and has no place on this planet .
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Integration works two ways. You can only integrate if you are accepted. So the answer to your question is racism slappy.
So, tell me how Scottish independence, and the kind of nationalistic talk that you and others seeking it spout, helps integration?
VNA, you "political animals" are all the same. You'll argue that black is white (if you'll excuse the pun), whether you believe in it or not. And then you'll spend ages trying to persuade yourselves you DO believe in it.
Just because one doesn't want what our politicians are peddling as multiculturalism, doesn't mean one is racist. What is multiculturalism anyway? Just because we allow the people of other countries to come and live in Britain, doesn't make it an integrated society. And it's not just muslims who build their own communities and keep themselves apart from the rest. I want Britain to have it's own strong culture, developed through thousands of years of history. I would like to see anyone that comes here and lives and works here accept that, along with it's rules and law. I don't want to see enclaves, such as have been mentioned, where I or anyone else can't go because we're not accepted by the alien culture that has taken root there. I don't want to see immigrants getting preferential treatment over people whose families originated here in the UK.
It's one thing to go on holiday abroad and sample another culture, or go to an Indian restaurant or whatever. And I've no problems with others coming here to do the same. But if they come to LIVE here, they should obey our laws, not introduce their own that clash with that; they should make their best effort to learn our language, as I'm sure you would do should you choose to live in another country.
And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge? I don't remember being asked to vote on it. Well, now perhaps we are beginning to pay the price for another poorly thought out idea, built on the back of liberal 'let's all be fwends together' hogwash, where we daren't speak our minds for fear of being called RACIST!! :eek , or some other pc knee-jerk reaction.
No, I'm no BNP supporter - I don't agree with their inflammatory talk. I don't want to see us completely cut ourselves off from Europe or the rest of the world, but this is Britain - I would like to see it stay that way.
And do you know what I really hate? Is the way these same liberal-thinking twats try to tell me I have to take the guilt of things our country has done in the past on my shoulders. Utter bollocks. Did I build the British Empire? Did I tell Blair to take us into war against Saddam Hussein? What could I have done about it? For fuck's sake, stop trying to surround yourself in cotton wool. This world will never be perfect while there are humans in it. Learn to deal with it, because you can't ever change human nature, and you're in for a world of disappointment if you think you can.
Aaaaand another thing! ISIS aren't the ones making us in the UK turn on one another. Our own politicians and pc brigade are managing that quite well without some mediaeval, barbaric towel-heads in Iraq and Syria to help us along. IS are just the latest tiresome war-makers in a long line (and yes, I agree that western policy in the Middle East is included in that line) throughout history that will continue while there are people on this planet. Seriously mate, you really think you'll ever get rid of war and conflict? Cloud cuckoo land.
Now, what the foc am I doing in a political thread?! *exits stage left* :lol
Oh yeah.... :lurk :b
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The problem with blaming racism is there doesn't seem to be any Hindus or Sikhs blowing themselves up on busses.I saw an Imam on tv years ago after 9 11 saying not all Muslims were terrorists but all terrorists were Muslim. Sad as it is he has a point. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/sad.gif[/url])
Are you trying to be funny?
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I don't think anything that happened in paris on Friday is remotely funny.
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The problem with blaming racism is there doesn't seem to be any Hindus or Sikhs blowing themselves up on busses.I saw an Imam on tv years ago after 9 11 saying not all Muslims were terrorists but all terrorists were Muslim. Sad as it is he has a point. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/sad.gif[/url])
Are you trying to be funny?
He's just stating a fact.
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So, tell me how Scottish independence, and the kind of nationalistic talk that you and others seeking it spout, helps integration?
You tell me what is anti-integration about Scottish Independence.
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He's just stating a fact.
What?!
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So, tell me how Scottish independence, and the kind of nationalistic talk that you and others seeking it spout, helps integration?
You tell me what is anti-integration about Scottish Independence.
I believe we have an integrated Nato nuclear policy which the SNP through there policy would remove. There's your starter for 10................
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The fact is that as far as in aware the terrorist attacks I know of recently have been carried out by people calling themselves Muslims. I know that the vast majority of decent people that happen to be Muslims hate what they are doing.but they are definitely doing it. That's a fact.
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Don't forget VNA is always right, the rest of us are just racist foccers.
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So, tell me how Scottish independence, and the kind of nationalistic talk that you and others seeking it spout, helps integration?
You tell me what is anti-integration about Scottish Independence.
Are you trying to be funny? Separatism = integration? How does that work?
A gentleman would answer the questions being put to him, not counter with another question. Bloody politicians :rolleyes
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A gentleman would answer the questions being put to him, not counter with another question. Bloody politicians ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/rolleyes.gif[/url])
It's difficult to answer a question that one simply doesn't understand. And surely if one is to state that an Independent Scotland would be anti-integration then surely one needs to make that case. ;)
Further I am lost as to what NATO has to do with social integration and cohesion. :lol I really am.
I believe we have an integrated Nato nuclear policy which the SNP through there policy would remove. There's your starter for 10................
Well first of all if Scotland decided to go it alone, one of the first things we would need to do is elect a government. Scotland is a democratic country and would continue to be so. Now unlike you I don't know if or when, at this moment in time, Scotland will become independent never mind who the first government is. What I can tell you is that the independence movement is an inclusive movement.
Further the Labour Party have just voted against renewal of Trident, though again I'm lost as to what any of this has got to do with social integration and cohesion, multiculturalism etc.
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I heard he was not dead he has moved to Glasgow looking for VNA. No doubt VNA will not give a fuck either about those totally guilty French people who dared to be out this evening getting on with there lives and how dare they may have been enjoying themselves,
I was actually thinking myself that VNA could possibly be a total PRIZE CNUT and he didn't let me down!
What a reliable knob jockey!
I really should have listened to you two :lol
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The problem with blaming racism is there doesn't seem to be any Hindus or Sikhs blowing themselves up on busses.I saw an Imam on tv years ago after 9 11 saying not all Muslims were terrorists but all terrorists were Muslim. Sad as it is he has a point. ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/sad.gif[/url])
An Imam stated that on TV. Who? Can you link to an article or clip? I'd love to see that! :lol
So ETA, the IRA, UDA, Farc, Lord's Resistance Army, The Stern Gangs etc etc are all Muslim. That's news to me.
And what about terrorism;
Was 'shock and awe' not an act of terror. Was the invasion of Iraq not an act of international terrorism. And why is it again that IS are crawling all over Iraq?
Iraq - total documented dead since invasion - 224,000 and counting.
"We don't do body counts" - General Tommy Franks. Well thank fuck somebody is Tommy you stupid ignorant murderous fuck!
What about Afghanistan and Libya (now also crawling with IS)
So tell me - who is terrorist.
Oh you want some Hindu and Sikh terror - no problem;
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/19/india-hindu-terrorism-threat (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2011/jan/19/india-hindu-terrorism-threat)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/27/punjab-police-station-attack-indian-troops-fight-gunmen-after-four-killed (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/27/punjab-police-station-attack-indian-troops-fight-gunmen-after-four-killed)
So to state that all terrorists are Muslim, well either that's shear ignorance or outrageous racism. You tell me!
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Meanwhile talking of Scottish Independence;
Recent research has shown that the war in Iraq is one of the most frequently mentioned reasons for people in Scotland turning their backs on The Labour Party.
Labour, the Conservatives and The Lid Dems have one MP each in Scotland.
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:z
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And what about terrorism;
Was 'shock and awe' not an act of terror.
Technically, no. Terrorism by definition is not selective of it's target. Before the campaign of shock and awe, Saddam was warned about what would happen, and could predict where the coalition would strike, i.e. at edifices of his regime. The whole point of terrorism is no one knows when or where it will strike, and it is non-discriminatory.
An illustration:
A lecturer on terrorism says to his students: "Anyone wearing jeans to any more lectures will be shot", pretending he has a gun in his pocket. Asked how they would react to this, the students said they wouldn't wear jeans to lectures again. They have a choice, and know what not to do to avoid being shot. This is intimidation; violence, or the threat thereof to make people conform to a certain pattern of behaviour. This is equivalent to "shock and awe".
The lecturer then picked out one student, pointed the pretend gun at him and said, "I've just shot you, you're dead." How would the students react to avoid the same thing happening to them? Was it the colour of his shoes? Was it where he sat in the lecture hall? Maybe it was his haircut? Fact is, they couldn't know. There was no way they could amend their behaviour to ensure they weren't next. The violence was totally arbitrary. It could involve innocents and 'guilty' alike. This is terrorism.
Meanwhile talking of Scottish Independence;
Recent research has shown that the war in Iraq is one of the most frequently mentioned reasons for people in Scotland turning their backs on The Labour Party.
And you think this only applies to the Scots?
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You have a valid point about the terrorist attacks in India VNA and I dearly wish I could validate the Imams statement from four years ago but I know what I saw and heard just as I know what I saw and heard about France Lebanon and kenya over the weekend. You can state all the figures you want but your deluded if you dont accepted the threat that IS poses in tye name of Islam We all know that Iraq is all about America taking 80% of the oil and none of us think these drones killing innocent people is good but if you look at your own figures a large proportion of the murders in Iraq are executions. Most of us don't think thats a good idea either.
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You have a valid point about the terrorist attacks in India VNA and I dearly wish I could validate the Imams statement from four years ago but I know what I saw and heard just as I know what I saw and heard about France Lebanon and kenya over the weekend. You can state all the figures you want but your deluded if you dont accepted the threat that IS poses in tye name of Islam We all know that Iraq is all about America taking 80% of the oil and none of us think these drones killing innocent people is good but if you look at your own figures a large proportion of the murders in Iraq are executions. Most of us don't think thats a good idea either.
I shouldn't bother, Bri. VNA is of the same mind as IS. He thinks we all need to atone for the West's actions and policy in the Middle East etc, whether we personally facilitated it or not. Same as he thinks because a labour government didn't represent his views, Scotland should leave the Union. The fact that politicians often don't represent the views of many in England or Wales is neither here nor there. Maybe THIS is terrorism?
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Bless him he does seem to have the blinkers on Nick but he is a foccer so I love him really :lol
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The thing that erks me about the scottish referendum is that its only the scottish who were having a say when it should of been the whole country's choice. the rest of the country should of been asked do you want the scotts to stay.
I would of voted for them to go if only make the weather forecast half as long
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Bless him he does seem to have the blinkers on Nick but he is a foccer so I love him really :lol
Of course. VNA, I'd buy you a pint down the pub any day mate. Just so long as you promise not to talk about politics, and I promise I won't talk about military history :lol
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Technically, no. Terrorism by definition is not selective of it's target. Before the campaign of shock and awe, Saddam was warned about what would happen, and could predict where the coalition would strike, i.e. at edifices of his regime. The whole point of terrorism is no one knows when or where it will strike, and it is non-discriminatory.
An illustration:
A lecturer on terrorism says to his students: "Anyone wearing jeans to any more lectures will be shot", pretending he has a gun in his pocket. Asked how they would react to this, the students said they wouldn't wear jeans to lectures again. They have a choice, and know what not to do to avoid being shot. This is intimidation; violence, or the threat thereof to make people conform to a certain pattern of behaviour. This is equivalent to "shock and awe".
The lecturer then picked out one student, pointed the pretend gun at him and said, "I've just shot you, you're dead." How would the students react to avoid the same thing happening to them? Was it the colour of his shoes? Was it where he sat in the lecture hall? Maybe it was his haircut? Fact is, they couldn't know. There was no way they could amend their behaviour to ensure they weren't next. The violence was totally arbitrary. It could involve innocents and 'guilty' alike. This is terrorism.
Is this an Israeli definition of terrorism perhaps?
Let me give you the dictionary definition;
The use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political goals. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/terrorism)
The unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/terrorism (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/terrorism)
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/terrorism)
So it is far from unreasonable to describe 'Shock and Awe' and the Iraq war as acts of terrorism.
And again, why do we now have IS?
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The fact that politicians often don't represent the views of many in England or Wales is neither here nor there.
But England voted for a Tory government. England has the government it deserves.
Scotland has a government imposed on it by English voters. We have only one Tory MP.
I just want what you have have - and that's the government that Scotland deserves.
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Of course. VNA, I'd buy you a pint down the pub any day mate. Just so long as you promise not to talk about politics, and I promise I won't talk about military history ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/url])
That sounds perfectly reasonable. I'd be happy to go a few rounds.
Now, what the foc am I doing in a political thread?! *exits stage left* ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/lol.gif[/url])
I thought you'd dropped this.
Just to be clear, I don't think I've ever, and I don't intend ever to, start a political discussion here.
It's a bike forum for focs sake.
There are plenty of other forums out there for folks to argue politics online, and/or express their extreme or racist views.
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The fact that politicians often don't represent the views of many in England or Wales is neither here nor there.
But England voted for a Tory government. England has the government it deserves.
Scotland has a government imposed on it by English voters. We have only one Tory MP.
I just want what you have have - and that's the government that Scotland deserves.
I didn't vote Tory. Am I being punished with the government I deserve?
Is this an Israeli definition of terrorism perhaps?
No, the definition of terrorism I gave comes from a study by Rosemary H. T. O'Kane, Professor of Comparative Political Theory, School of Politics, International Relations and Philosophy, (SPIRE) UK.
why do we now have IS?
Yes, we have provoked muslim populations until we now have IS. And I agree, we ought to be changing our policies towards these regions. But why are you bleating about it here on a bike forum? Are members of FOC-U responsible for this? And aren't you just as responsible, by association with the government of the UK, though as me, you didn't vote for them and now wish to wash your hands of the Union? But rest assured, nothing we do now can change the direction of Islamic State:
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/)
You will remain a target as much as the rest of us. Oh well, that's terrorism for you.
I see you have beaten me to this - I'm gonna post it anyway :lol
P.S. have you read the discussion that follows the Oxford Dictionary definition? Interesting stuff. Apparently, dictionary definitions can change.
Yours sincerely,
A Rabid Rascist.
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The fact that politicians often don't represent the views of many in England or Wales is neither here nor there.
But England voted for a Tory government. England has the government it deserves.
Scotland has a government imposed on it by English voters. We have only one Tory MP.
I just want what you have have - and that's the government that Scotland deserves.
But surely all that happens is you go around in circles? We say you had an independence vote, you say it was rigged in the Unions favour, we say it wasn't but you have an assembly and England doesn't and is fed-up with the West Lothian issue etc etc ad nauseum.
I bet Jihadi John lost a lot of sleep on this issue.
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Nice to see the French giving a little pay back this morning , go for it not really concerned how many they take out feck um !!!!
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[/size][size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/size][/font][/size][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe? If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size]
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[size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/color][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe? If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size][/color]
It is hardly surprising that IS, Al Qaeda or whoever would take this "refugee crisis" as an opportunity to slip a few nasties into Europe. I'm sure there'll be more to come. Thank you Germany for being so obliging as to invite them all in. Had second thoughts now it's too late have you, Ms. Merkel?
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[size=1rem]Al-Mohammad is the name on a Syrian passport found with the remains of one of the attackers, though the man's identity has not yet been verified. What has been confirmed is that his fingerprints match those taken by the Greek authorities after he arrived with migrants on the island of Leros in October 2015.[/size][/color][size=1rem]The above is from the BBC news website, how many more like him are now in Europe? If he arrived in October looks to me like he has come to Europe for the sole purpose to carry out the atrocity in Paris.[/size][/color]
It is hardly surprising that IS, Al Qaeda or whoever would take this "refugee crisis" as an opportunity to slip a few nasties into Europe. I'm sure there'll be more to come. Thank you Germany for being so obliging as to invite them all in. Had second thoughts now it's too late have you, Ms. Merkel?
Yeah in fact lets send them all to Germany as they were so obliging in the first place.
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No, the definition of terrorism I gave comes from a study by Rosemary H. T. O'Kane, Professor of Comparative Political Theory, School of Politics, International Relations and Philosophy, (SPIRE) UK.
And I think it should remain as Ms O'Kane's interpretation. I'll stick to the dictionary.
The reason I mentioned Israel is becuase Ms O'Kane's illustration is very similar to Israel's assertions of how reasonable they are. For example in their last invasion of Gaza, they would leaflet a civilian area giving the residents 12 or 24hrs to pack up and leave before they bombed the area beyond recognition. When as a result of their bombing they were accused of acting as or acts of terrorism, they said 'what terrorist would drop leaflets asking the people to move to safety - how could we be more reasonable.
But, as an innocent civilian, to be given 12 hrs to get out of your home or die as it is raised to the ground, is an act of terror. It is terrorism.
P.S. have you read the discussion that follows the Oxford Dictionary definition? Interesting stuff. Apparently, dictionary definitions can change.
I took the first definitions that came up in my search. The Oxford one is interesting and I wondered if you would pick up on it. I do like the fact that the online Oxford allows you to comment on their content! And the first comment is absolutely spot on.
You will remain a target as much as the rest of us. Oh well, that's terrorism for you.
Indeed,and that I am a target just as much as anybody else is not going to change my views.
Oh I might have forgotten to mention that the Iraq Body Count is documented deaths. Some estimate the true figure to be 3 or 4 times or more as many.
And there is more to document - genocide;
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sinjar-mass-grave-of-yazidi-women-discovered-in-iraq-a6735136.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/sinjar-mass-grave-of-yazidi-women-discovered-in-iraq-a6735136.html)
Robert Fisk: 'We remain blindfolded about Isis' says the man who should know;Brian Keenan was held by Shia Muslims loyal to Hezbollah in Lebanon;
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/robert-fisk-we-remain-blindfolded-about-isis-says-the-man-who-should-know-a6735426.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/robert-fisk-we-remain-blindfolded-about-isis-says-the-man-who-should-know-a6735426.html)
I'm sure many here will remember the name Brian Keenan.
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Why has this thread evolved into Brian Keenan, he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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Brian spent 54 months wearing a blind fold in the 1980's, held by Shia Muslims loyal to Hezbollah.
Hezbollah today are locked in battle with IS.
Robert Fisk is one of the leading journalists reporting on Middle Eastern matters.
I wore a blindfold for four and a half years, and ‘Western democracy’ tells me that justice is blind. I’m not sure about this – because until we can un-blindly question how power is dispensed, then we’re all wearing blindfolds
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Terry Waite not worth a mention then?? or maybe he was M15 hiding under the guise of the Anglican church.
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VNA, this Iraq Body Count thing you keep banging on about is starting to sound like a rather unhealthy obsession. We can't bring them back. If you are so concerned, then go out there and do something about it. If there is nothing you can do, leave it be. It doesn't do you, me or anyone else any good to just keep harping on about it. You are changing nothing.
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And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?
That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_immigration_to_Great_Britain)
Which ones are your ancestors?
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And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?
That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_immigration_to_Great_Britain)
Which ones are your ancestors?
Yes, odd isn't it. Yet we spilt much blood to keep out the Spanish, the French, the Nazis and many of the above, and were prepared to do the same to keep out the Soviets. But for some reason if a radicalised muslim preaches hatred and terror on our streets, we'll defend his right to do so till the end, and go out of our way to allow others to come here. Now, is it time for you to call me a racist yet? :rolleyes
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Funny how the news channels (the BBC being the worst) were in Moelenbeek and were describing the culprits as 'vulnerable to radicalisation' and 'isolated from society', now correct me if I am wrong, but Hitler has never to my knowledge been described as 'vulnerable', yet he arrived at that first NSDAP meeting still reeling from WW1 (vulnerable?), unemployable outside of the miltary (isolated from society?) and young (vulnerable to radicalisation?), now do we revise history and say really Hitler was a young man who went off of the rails or do we stop with all the PC nonsense and say that these Islamofascists are exactly the same as the Nazis and no paper-waving or apologising/excuse-making for their atrocities is acceptable?
I laughed at North African migrant who they interviewed in Brussels who said he was marginalised - does he really believe if the average Belgian went to Algeria or Egypt they would be given safety, benefits or accomodation? I think any amount of money, resources and state-intervention given to these 21st Century Nazis won't stop them, it'll just fund their despicable plans with more effifacy. If some of these cowards did come via rat-lines from Syria pretending to be Refugees, then I consider those bleeding hearts who allowed and facilitated this to be accountable for attacks in Western and Northern Europe and should be prosecuted (not one chance).
This apologising for the rise of Islamonazism makes me sick.
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/476163/Refugees-flight-Syria-UK-Paris-attacks (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/476163/Refugees-flight-Syria-UK-Paris-attacks)
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Ah well at least VNA will be happy arrived in Glasgow, hope they fecking stay there.
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"...Tory MP's urge ministers to make sure they are genuine asylum seekers, not terrorists..."
How the fuck do you do that then???
"Are you a terrorist?"
"No."
"Welcome to Glasgow, move along." :rolleyes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322197/First-Syrian-refugees-flying-Britain-Tory-MPs-urge-ministers-make-sure-genuine-asylum-seekers-not-terrorists.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322197/First-Syrian-refugees-flying-Britain-Tory-MPs-urge-ministers-make-sure-genuine-asylum-seekers-not-terrorists.html)
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Wouldn't fancy my chances as a refugee attempting to live in America, they'll probably waterboard them, you know, just in case......
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surely any security checks should be made prior to embarking on the flight to UK?
easier said than done I know and I do appreciate that there are real refugee's/asylum seekers out there & that they are not all terrorists!!
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surely any security checks should be made prior to embarking on the flight to UK?
easier said than done I know and I do appreciate that there are real refugee's/asylum seekers out there & that they are not all terrorists!!
Would be nice to appear to be at least a little bit cautious though!
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A Scottish friend asked the other day why we would want to allow people into the country that are violent to others?
My response was, we allow the scots in.
Fair point was his response.
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me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.
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me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.
Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? :look
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me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.
Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? :look
I read it as a reply to this!
And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?
That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_immigration_to_Great_Britain)
Which ones are your ancestors?
as in his ancestors were Picts!
can't remember my history lessons clearly as it was a long time ago but google provided the answer!
The Picts were a tribal confederation of peoples who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late Iron Age and Early Medieval periods. They are thought to have been ethnolinguistically Celtic
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me,s a Pict--Pict ancestors.
Okay, i have to ask as nobody else has yet but i'm sure they're as puzzled as me......did you fall down the stairs whilst typing that?
What were you actually trying to say? :look
I read it as a reply to this!
And who decided that we should turn this country into a multicultural hodgepodge?
That would be the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Jutes, Scots, Irish, Vikings, Normans, Romani, Hugenots, Indians, Africans, Germans, Jews, West Indians... (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_immigration_to_Great_Britain)
Which ones are your ancestors?
as in his ancestors were Picts!
can't remember my history lessons clearly as it was a long time ago but google provided the answer!
The Picts were a tribal confederation of peoples who lived in what is today eastern and northern Scotland during the Late Iron Age and Early Medieval periods. They are thought to have been ethnolinguistically Celtic
I used to bunk off history far too often, it's obviously taking its toll now.
You live and learn.
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Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo)
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Always wondered what my ancestors got up to whilst sheltering in their cave :)
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Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave and Grooving With a Pict
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo[/url] ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1tfUaBezFo[/url])
I have the mother of all hangovers and that soundtrack really messed my head up :wall :wall :wall
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Now, is it time for you to call me a racist yet? :rolleyes
No, I'll just call your argument a Straw Man (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html).
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Whats race got to do with it, its religion and its zealots that are causing the problem, and as far as I know Islam is a religion not a race.
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I'd blame the Peoples Front of Judea! :rollin :rollin
(just trying to lighten the mood rather than be serious!)
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I'd blame the Peoples Front of Judea! :rollin :rollin
(just trying to lighten the mood rather than be serious!)
I blame the Judean Peoples Front. :)
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I'd blame the Peoples Front of Judea! :rollin :rollin
(just trying to lighten the mood rather than be serious!)
I blame the Judean Peoples Front. :)
Judean people front, splitters :eek
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Wealease Wodderwick
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Wealease Wodderwick
:rollin :rollin
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Wealease Wodderwick
:rollin :rollin
Pick him up and fwow him to the ground
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I would say there is racism in everyone, be it welsh wankers, English wankers tight Scottish wankers, irish gypsy, tossers the list goes on and on, but who cares, in my opinion its just a bit of fun,, I got a black mate calls himself chalky, its a sad person who takes it all to serious.