Post by: fazersharp on 04 November 2015, 11:38:04 pm
Its what I call the family computer as I have my own pc for work that I dont let them touch and foc up, the current family one that I am looking to replace is an old HP D530 pentium 4 2.8 Ghz with 3gb ram
It is used for general surfing email and office use with the odd photo editing.
I am looking at this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-Core-i5-650-3-2GHz-Windows-7-Professional-Desktop-Computer-/111439203465?hash=item19f24b4c89:g:9OQAAOSwpDdVbHSj (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-Core-i5-650-3-2GHz-Windows-7-Professional-Desktop-Computer-/111439203465?hash=item19f24b4c89:g:9OQAAOSwpDdVbHSj)
as it is exactly the same size as the old one.
Whats the focer font of knowledge Should I be looking at something else (i would prefer to keep the sff format )
The seller also sells via their own site and makes a big play on the fact they are an authorised microsoft refurb seller (sounds good to me ) and offer 12 months warranty
Would an i3 2nd gen be better than an i5 1st gen
Post by: NotAnotherHill on 04 November 2015, 11:59:45 pm
http://www.cclonline.com/product/154683/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Alpha-Pioneer-III-PC/CCL-ALP-SBUD3/ (http://www.cclonline.com/product/154683/NoMfgCode/All-CCL-Desktops/CCL-Alpha-Pioneer-III-PC/CCL-ALP-SBUD3/)
My teenage boys use their gaming computers but this one is all you need and has Windows 10 Home operating system. No screen, keyboard, mouse etc.
Post by: NotAnotherHill on 05 November 2015, 12:01:56 am
Post by: fazersharp on 05 November 2015, 12:05:44 am
Post by: Val on 05 November 2015, 12:53:03 am
So I got a little ahead of myself with the office 2010 help request as I also first need a desktop, thanks to all how helped on that one.
Its what I call the family computer as I have my own pc for work that I dont let them touch and foc up, the current family one that I am looking to replace is an old HP D530 pentium 4 2.8 Ghz with 3gb ram
It is used for general surfing email and office use with the odd photo editing.
I am looking at this [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-Core-i5-650-3-2GHz-Windows-7-Professional-Desktop-Computer-/111439203465?hash=item19f24b4c89:g:9OQAAOSwpDdVbHSj[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-Core-i5-650-3-2GHz-Windows-7-Professional-Desktop-Computer-/111439203465?hash=item19f24b4c89:g:9OQAAOSwpDdVbHSj[/url])
as it is exactly the same size as the old one.
Whats the focer font of knowledge Should I be looking at something else (i would prefer to keep the sff format )
The seller also sells via their own site and makes a big play on the fact they are an authorised microsoft refurb seller (sounds good to me ) and offer 12 months warranty
Would an i3 2nd gen be better than an i5 1st gen
How fast is your computer depends on the memory. Photo editing on Windows 7 with less than 8Gb will be painfully slow. I'd recommend at least 16Gb RAM. In order to be able to use more than 4gb memory you need processor with 64 bit bus computer.
The above has miserly 4Gb memory. HP is a good brand. The SFF memroy is very expensive. The one above chosen by you support 16Gb memory in 4 memory banks. One 4Gb SFF cost £25. In order to get decent desktop you with say 16Gb memory you need to pay £75 for memory upgrade only.
Better find a desktop with more memory. Unfortunately most good perfromance desktops are not SFF.
Search ebay for "16GB":
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/PC-Desktops-AllinOnes-/179/i.html?Brand=HP&_dcat=179&_from=R40&_nkw=16gb&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/PC-Desktops-AllinOnes-/179/i.html?Brand=HP&_dcat=179&_from=R40&_nkw=16gb&LH_PrefLoc=1&_sop=15)
I found this HP for £180:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Barebones-Twin-Quad-Core-HP-Desktop-PC-2x-Xeon-2-66GHz-16GB-RAM-XW8400-/141819918909?hash=item2105203a3d:g:KRsAAOSwDNdVwcrH (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Barebones-Twin-Quad-Core-HP-Desktop-PC-2x-Xeon-2-66GHz-16GB-RAM-XW8400-/141819918909?hash=item2105203a3d:g:KRsAAOSwDNdVwcrH)
And I would buy this server for this kind of money £170, it will blow the socks off any SFF desktop :lol
HP DL380 G5 2x Quad Core 2.66Ghz 16GB RAM DUAL PSU RAID
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-DL380-G5-2x-Quad-Core-2-66Ghz-16GB-RAM-DUAL-PSU-RAID-P400-512MB-BBWC-4x146GB-/151444867113?hash=item2342d14829:m:m56Z-xM5xqOYyW6bdTwuRQw (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-DL380-G5-2x-Quad-Core-2-66Ghz-16GB-RAM-DUAL-PSU-RAID-P400-512MB-BBWC-4x146GB-/151444867113?hash=item2342d14829:m:m56Z-xM5xqOYyW6bdTwuRQw)
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 05 November 2015, 09:53:50 am
The 8100 is a good little PC.
Post by: fazersharp on 05 November 2015, 01:41:06 pm
Whats a server and can I use it just the same as a pc also it looks like it will be noisy-big air grill on the front and only has 2 usb on the back and looks scary - dont think it will be one of those.
You say the sff ram is more expensive so I had a little look which only leads to more questions as I dont know what it takes - it just says ddr3 and there is 1 stick of 4gb in there now
I was thinking if I was to go with the 8100 to upgrade the HD for an ssd (costs £50 ) 128gb and will come fitted what kind of speed difference do you think it would make if I did that would it be say equivalent to 4 or 8 G ram or would I be better leaving the HD as is and spending the money on ram
I am thinking I could always upgrade the ram whenever if I thought we need some extra
The pc its replacing is an hp sff and has done served us well despite the kids doing their best to foc it up so that is why I am attracted to another the same also space wise it suits us to sit the monitor on it.
Also a little perspective on what we have now compared to the 8100 (the 8100 will be 64bit win 7 )
10 year old
Its 3gb ddr pc2700 166MHz xp pro (not sure how much ram is available)
P4 2.4GHz
And when I say a bit of photo editing we dont have any issues on that front with the pc we have now although when we change im sure we will see that we did have issues.
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 05 November 2015, 02:17:36 pm
Having looked at my HP quickspecs too, I have realised that the 8100 was discontinued by HP in June 2012 so that machine will be somewhere between 3.5 and 6 years old before you get it. If that's OK with you then fine but I would not look to get something like that personally. Alternatively, get the later model ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-Elite-8300-SFF-PC-Intel-3rd-Gen-i3-3220-3-30GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-/121793574979?hash=item1c5b767843:g:JtMAAOSwo0JWJ3aO (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-Elite-8300-SFF-PC-Intel-3rd-Gen-i3-3220-3-30GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-/121793574979?hash=item1c5b767843:g:JtMAAOSwo0JWJ3aO) )
If you do decide that the age is not a problem, upgrade the RAM to 8GB or 16GB (they use DDR3 SDRAM modules and they wont take any more than 4 of the 4GB ones) and the HDD to an SSD and you will have a PC that does go very well and will handle the upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 with ease.
Post by: Val on 05 November 2015, 02:55:10 pm
Note the actual speed and performance depend on the CPU, the memory, but also on the graphics card as well, means if you get the latest CPU with even more memory and you have integrated graphics card your PC will be slowwer then one with older CPU but with fast dedicated graphics card.
Frankly for the home use purposes any will do. I would go for one which at least has 8Gb memory already.
I have looked at HP 8100 you have selected and it does not have wifi and bluetooth also it has integrated graphics card - not good home choice IMO.
You need wifi to connect it to your internet wifi router otherwise you need some cables, not funny :)
Alternatively, get the later model ( [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-Elite-8300-SFF-PC-Intel-3rd-Gen-i3-3220-3-30GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-/121793574979?hash=item1c5b767843:g:JtMAAOSwo0JWJ3aO[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-Elite-8300-SFF-PC-Intel-3rd-Gen-i3-3220-3-30GHz-4GB-Ram-250GB-HDD-/121793574979?hash=item1c5b767843:g:JtMAAOSwo0JWJ3aO[/url]) )
No offence but IMO that is no good for home missing wifi, they will give you usb wifi dongle - seriously in 21st century using wifi dongles?
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 05 November 2015, 03:00:07 pm
Integrated graphics can be disabled if you want a separate graphics card
Post by: fazersharp on 05 November 2015, 03:09:51 pm
Yes am looking at refurb - thats waht my 10 year old one was too
More questions - sorry
Ram -- my old system xp you had to put in matched pairs, am I correct in thinking that I dont have to do that now and so I could keep the 1 4gb stick and then add 2x4gb so using 3 of the 4 slots and getting a total of 12gb
Also the 8300 the only difference I can see is it has an i3 3rd gen and the 8100 has an i5 1st gen
The link that you gave - they are even cheeper but will need to do a bit of due diligence as to the seller. I was just sold a little bit on the more expensive one (8100) as the are an authorized microsoft refurb seller (convinced me ) also that one comes with a 12 month warranty for what its worth !
Post by: Val on 05 November 2015, 03:12:08 pm
WiFI on a desktop is not always needed if your router is nearby.
Integrated graphics can be disabled if you want a separate graphics card
I agree. But going upgrade route you basically are assembling new PC. Probably better go to scan.co.uk buy components and do that from scratch - new PC made by you exactly as you want it :)
I have looked and ebay and frankly what I have seen I do not like.
Post by: fazersharp on 05 November 2015, 03:13:14 pm
Looking at a seperate grapics card I can get one for £25 nvidia
Quick look at scan = nothing under £250
Just found this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-SFF-Intel-i3-3-06GHz-8GB-1TB-Windows-7-Pro-Wi-Fi-Computer-/361366685820?hash=item542322087c (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Compaq-8100-Elite-SFF-Intel-i3-3-06GHz-8GB-1TB-Windows-7-Pro-Wi-Fi-Computer-/361366685820?hash=item542322087c)
Has 6gb and a seperate graphics card but is an i3 3.06GHz as opposed to the other one i5 3.2 GHz with 4 gb ram and onboard
Which one would be better
Post by: celticdog on 05 November 2015, 06:31:30 pm
Why not buck the trend and go for an Apple? Daddy or Chips?
Post by: fazersharp on 05 November 2015, 08:14:39 pm
Think I have found myself one
hp 8100 win7 pro 64bit
8gb ram
i3 3.06GHz
1 TB HD
NVIDIA Quadro NVS290 256MB ---------- yes not masive but better than onboard ???? is it
All for £166 from an autorized microsoft refurb seller
Post by: Val on 05 November 2015, 08:34:48 pm
Well there you are you see we have had the hp D530 for at least 8 years and that was also a refurb one and cost under £100
Think I have found myself one
hp 8100 win7 pro 64bit
8gb ram
i3 3.06GHz
1 TB HD
NVIDIA Quadro NVS290 256MB ---------- yes not masive but better than onboard ???? is it
All for £166 from an autorized microsoft refurb seller
sounds like a good bargain to me :thumbup
Post by: Dead Eye on 06 November 2015, 12:03:29 am
The "speed" of a computer depends entirely on what you are doing and on many many factors which can make explaining a tad complicated.
The CPU / Processor: Great for computationally demanding tasks
RAM / Memory: Stores information that can be accessed very quickly. In other words, great for working on large documents, images, videos or other intense programs. A quick analogy would be to consider your registration plate of your bike; if it is in memory and someone asks you, you can instantly tell them. Otherwise, you've got to go look for the damn thing (in this case, your computer goes and fetches it from your Hard Drive for example). As for matching the "sticks"; it is recommended but not required. Matching pairs will work faster together, but the system will always run as fast as the SLOWEST stick (this is not the same as capacity). Should you be concerned? For a home PC, probably not. For gaming, more so.
Graphics Cards: A more specialised computational calculator. Functions on very similar principles to a CPU, but is more refined to doing fewer tasks, but very well. In this case, calculating and displaying graphics / images / videos. Don't be tempted to be fooled by the "GB" of Graphics Cards - this isn't always a good marker especially when comparing dedicated to onboard.
Intel's current line-up consists of the "Core Series" which are grouped as i3, i5 and i7. Simple enough. After that you get a set of 3 or 4 numbers and a final letter. If it is 3 numbers, it is a first generation chip from before 2010. If it's 4 numbers then the first is the series e.g. a Core i7 2700K is a 2nd generation processor from around 2011. The higher that latter 3 numbers, the better it is (typically). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_i7_microprocessors)
There is much more to it than this, but these are vague guidelines. What would I recommend? A simple i3 should be man enough; it's what I use at work. 16GB of memory? I can't see why you would need it personally, 4GB is probably doable for the here and now, but 8GB would be better.
This is the site I use when making comparisons between various CPU's and Graphics Cards ( http://www.cpubenchmark.net/ (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/) ). It gives a benchmark score so that you can compare
And for the nerds who may care, here are the technical specs of my home PC;
Intel Core i7-4770K
ASUS Z87-WS
SoundBlaster 3DRecon PCIe SoundCard
Corsair Dominator 16GB (4x 4GB) DDR3 2400Mhz
2x nVidia GeForce GTX 760 in SLi
Twin Loop Water Cooling for CPU and GPU's
3x Samsung 840 256GB SSDs
3x Samsung F1 Spinforce 1TB HDDs
2x Samsung F3 Spinforce 1.5TB HDDs
CoolerMaster HAF 932 Case
CoolerMaster 1000W Silent Pro Gold Power Supply
Logitech G910 Orion Spark Keyboard
Logitech G500 Mouse
Acer GD245HQ 24" 3D Ready Monitor
BenQ 24" Monitor
Berylium Xtensions 5.1 Surround Sound
Phoenix |
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 12:16:06 am
when you say
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Matching pairs will work faster together, but the system will always run as fast as the SLOWEST stickNot sure I get you
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 12:20:17 am
Memory upgrades are accomplished by adding single or multiple DIMMs of the same or varied sizes. This chart does not represent all
possible memory configurations. The HP Compaq 8100 Elite Series PCsupports non-ECC DDR3 PC3-10600 (1333 MHz) and PC3-8500
(1066 MHz) memory
Are you refering to the "slowest" being this (1066 MHz)
Also found this useful http://www.cpu-world.com/Releases/Desktop_CPU_releases_%282010%29.html#January (http://www.cpu-world.com/Releases/Desktop_CPU_releases_%282010%29.html#January) says 2010
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 08:11:52 am
The maximum sized DIMM this will support if 4GB. There are 4 slots and you only need to fill them one at a time.
If it is delivered with 8GB RAM, that will do you for a good while so you don't need to worry about upgrading it. Worst case is it will have 4x2GB DIMMS fitted. To upgrade this you would need to replace one or more of the DIMMS.
As mentioned by you, the HP Compaq 8100 Elite Series PC supports non-ECC DDR3 PC3-10600 (1333 MHz) and PC3-8500
(1066 MHz) memory.
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 08:21:04 am
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The maximum sized DIMM this will support if 4GB. There are 4 slots and you only need to fill them one at a time
So do you mean 4gb in each = total max of 16gb
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. Worst case is it will have 4x2GB DIMMS fitted. To upgrade this you would need to replace one or more of the DIMMS.
Before I buY I am asking if I can up grade to 12gb I am not sure how the ram is configured in the slots --- I see what you are saying if it is 4x2 then I will have to dunp/sell one or two so I can add more
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If it is delivered with 8GB RAM, that will do you for a good whileSo would my money be better spent on a ssd rather than bumping up to 12gb do you think because although it is s refurb one they have dosens and can upgrade parts before shipment
DDR3 PC3-10600 (1333 MHz) and PC3-8500 (1066 MHz) memory. So is this one faster (1333 MHz) out of the two types and can i mix them
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 08:25:48 am
Several permutations exist from 1x1GB up to 4x4GB to give you 16Gb which is the maximum that PC can support.
IF the PC has 8GB in it now, that could be 4x2GB or 2x4GB. If it is the former, then you will have to remove 2x2GB and replace them with 2x4GB to get you to 12GB.
If it is 2x4GB at the moment, then adding another 1x4GB will work as will adding 2x2GB.
8GB is plenty for a desktop unless you are doing some serious graphical work.
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 08:34:37 am
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There are 4x DIMM slots. Only one must be filled with a DIMM.Not sure what you mean (sorry) --DIMM is the name of the connection isnt it and at least one has to have something in it otherwize I have zero memory all the memory is a DIMM connection isnt it ?
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 08:40:44 am
The DIMM slot is where you fit the memory.
If you have no DIMMs fitted, you have zero memory.
If you really want or need to go to 12GB, then you may as well get them to fit it.
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 08:50:26 am
I do also I think have the option of instead of having it shipped with the HD I can instead pay £50 extra and have it shipped with a SSD
In your view what would gain the most speed
12gb and standard HD
or 8gb with an SSD
Post by: Frosties on 06 November 2015, 09:13:21 am
I love PC's .......
No shit Deadeye. Water cooling.....etc That's a cracking bit of kit :eek
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 09:16:56 am
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 09:22:45 am
I think I may do it that way because I can easily add extra memory later, I use acronis true image for backups so I could swap the drive later but swapping the HD later will be a bit more of a faff and then also worrying about people accessing my "deleted" drive if I try to sell the old HD
Post by: Val on 06 November 2015, 11:04:06 am
Thank you for your help
I think I may do it that way because I can easily add extra memory later, I use acronis true image for backups so I could swap the drive later but swapping the HD later will be a bit more of a faff and then also worrying about people accessing my "deleted" drive if I try to sell the old HD
There are some details here - if you are concerned about security do not buy SSD -the information never gets really deleted there and at some point if you change it somebody can read it.
That is the last thing to worry about SSD though - some SSD devices from some manufacturers have really bad reliability problems.
Generally SSD technology has very low endurance compared to HD - in the magnittude of 100x-200x worst.
Also it is very expensive per Mb.
For above reasons I will never install and rely on SSD only. IMO is better to have small and good manufacturer quality SSD for the operating system and the programs only - this way your PC will start and work faster.
But keep high volume and important data on a HD for reliability and cost reasons.
Backup is fine but usually disks fail before you do backup and you loose all that has not been backuped yet.
Even RAID 0 or RAID 5 configuratin HDs. Raid means several HD drives working together if one disk fails you do not loose your information and can change the disk and continue.
This way I know my information is protected.
Think about it are you ok if you loose all your data there? Probably yes if all important pictures are on flick and you keep other important famility documents in the cloud say Google drive or Microsoft OneDrive.
If you keep all important data locally on that PC SSD only is a no go for me and you need fault tollerant HD configuration :)
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 11:32:54 am
here is a side by side spek http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare_CPUs/Intel_CM80616003060AE,Intel_EU80570PJ0806M/ (http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare_CPUs/Intel_CM80616003060AE,Intel_EU80570PJ0806M/)
the only ovious thing to me is it has 2 threads and the i3 has 4
Post by: darrsi on 06 November 2015, 11:46:55 am
Post by: joebloggs on 06 November 2015, 12:01:32 pm
Sounds like you need a DeLorean :lol
:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
To bloody confusing this computer jargon
Bring back the spectrum...............
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 12:11:18 pm
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That is the last thing to worry about SSD though - some SSD devices from some manufacturers have really bad reliability problems
Come on then name and shame so I can avoid
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 12:25:01 pm
Post by: NorthWestern on 06 November 2015, 12:41:20 pm
If your not doing very large file edits and/or playing the latest games then pretty much anything will do. I have an old laptop I occasionally use at home and that can run Photoshop CS6 with 4k images just fine. I think its an 2.0ghz intel duo with 2 gig ram and the intel on board gfx so waaay inferiour to your current machine. Win 10 is also much easier on hardware so if your moving to that it will give you a minor boost.
Your current PC spec looks fine for what you say you want to use it for, maybe it just needs a good cleanup, maybe a new gfx card and hdd, fresh install of windows etc Even modern games don't tax the CPU much anymore its all on the GFX card really - most photo editing software use the gfx card nowadays. We occasionally get a batch of different spec PC's from dell etc and without question the biggest performance factor is GFX card (for games) CPU makes little difference and anything with over 8G+ is more or less the same be that 8GB or 16GB.
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 12:45:16 pm
Regarding the CPU, the E8400 benchmarks at 2178 and the i3-540 @ 2708 so the E8400 will be about 20% slower.Thanks for that
Even I am starting to loose the will to live -----------its turning into a noggy "what bike shall I get"
the 8000 is coming in at £40-£50 cheaper
Now started to look at Dell OptiPlex 790 Small Form Factor i3 3.3GHz 8gb ram anyone have any view on that machine
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 12:58:32 pm
I wouldn't bother with an SSD to be honest. We build AAA video games for PS4/XB1/PC etc and our PC's are pretty cutting edge but we don't bother with SSD drives due to reliability and they just don't offer any real performance other than load times but HDD load times are hardly a problem especially for a home machine.
Your current PC spec looks fine for what you say you want to use it for, maybe it just needs a good cleanup, maybe a new gfx card and hdd, fresh install of windows etc CPU makes little difference and anything with over 8G+ is more or less the same be that 8GB or 16GB.
So it sounds like I should steer clear of SSD although the pc never has much on it to lose as it was only 40GB hd so never kept much on it and always saved to DVD any photos.
So a SSD will just make start up quicker --- I thought it made everything quicker.
Also just to recap the current pc is
10 year old + HP D530
P4 2.4GHz
3gb ddr pc2700 166MHz
40gb HD
onboard graphics
xp pro (not sure how much ram is available)
Thats the family pc for general --- not a lot, but find things like the google maps painfully slow and it randomly restarts -- which of course is my fault cause its old and its broken and Im too tight to buy another one :uhuh
(only one of those statements is correct)
Post by: NorthWestern on 06 November 2015, 01:04:30 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 01:06:18 pm
Also being offered it with a NV 290 graphics card for an extra £10
Post by: NorthWestern on 06 November 2015, 01:14:32 pm
If your buying new they are all pretty matched in the price brackets. One bundle might give better speakers, the other better gfx. You won't really go wrong
Post by: NorthWestern on 06 November 2015, 01:26:06 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 02:01:15 pm
Expansion Slots 2 x PCI-E x 1 slots, 1 x PCI-E x 16 slot, 1 x PCI slot
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 02:19:42 pm
For Dell kit, they have got better. In years gone by, I could open 10 boxes with sequential serial numbers and find two or more different configurations due to their production models. This has changed now though.
Lenovo are as good as HP.
Personally, I would stick with HP or Lenovo if I was buying a ready built PC.
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 02:24:59 pm
Post by: NorthWestern on 06 November 2015, 02:46:49 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 02:49:21 pm
:rollin
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 02:49:29 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 02:59:18 pm
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 03:29:30 pm
I have an announcement to make :guitar
I have made a purchase
[/b]HP 8000 elite - Processor: Core 2 Duo 3GHz
- Memory: 8GB
- Hard Disk Drive: 400GB
- Optical Disk Drive: DVD-RW
- Operating System: Windows 7 Professional (64 bit)
- Graphics Card: NVS290 with DVI cable
£127 delivered 12 mths RTB
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 06 November 2015, 03:34:45 pm
For that price you cant really go wrong.
Post by: Dead Eye on 06 November 2015, 04:47:07 pm
I sometimes spend weeks designing my new PC's whilst I'm doing research on benchmarks vs cost etc and at the end of the day, some things just don't work no matter how much you try (my system has a few niggly issues with SLI and DPC Latency, but that's a whole other kettle of fish and something to do with a particular Windows update that I'm yet to track down)
Have fun!!!
Post by: fazersharp on 06 November 2015, 04:52:21 pm
"Every time I learn something new it pushes something else out my head"
And also why I have stuck with XP because its not supported anymore which is great because that means microsoft arnt braking my pc with every update
Post by: joebloggs on 08 November 2015, 12:06:53 pm