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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Diesels and Lawnmowers (Bike racing n things) => Topic started by: joebloggs on 25 October 2015, 11:00:50 am
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Can't believe Rossi got away with taking Marc out today, but I do wonder if he decides to retire after he's had some time to think about his actions, I know it was at a low speed corner and the risk of injury small but he'd have to be asking himself what is he prepared to do to beat another rider and if its time to hang up the leathers
Very disapointed :\
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Yeah it was very poor form.
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I kind of understand Rossi, Last week Marc overtook him then rode at such a pace that Rossi couldn't close the gap and again the fight between them is always going to let Lorenzo disappear up the road but it was early in the race and maybe he should have sat behind Marc and waited a lap or two to see his pace in relation to Lorenzo
I'd love to see him take one last title but not at any cost
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Just watched it, wtf was he thinking. His biggest rival was lorenzo, but needed to teach the whippersnapper a lesson.
21 years of reputation down the toilet in 1 corner.
Now in valencia my money will be on marquez slowing down and fucking up rossi's title chance!
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Hasn't Marquez got form for doing similiar things in the past?
Rossi lost his rag but Marquez was just as much at fault, they both looked at each other and neither was going to back off.
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Those overtakes were last lap passes, on the edge, not for early laps in a title contention race,,,of and look ahead there goes Lorenzo disappearing into the distance,
you certainly do no want a rider doing passes on you when you need to keep pace with the leaders,,,,run the little c**t off the road, he took the race from Rossi.
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i think rossi lost his cool a bit. I'm a massive fan but dont think he should have done what he did.
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Simply put Spanish Mafia at work, they need a Spaniard to win at Valencia, Rossi basically has handed the title to Lorenzo. Regardless he is the all time greatest Moto GP rider ever.
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Hear, hear, certainly the GOAT, but unfortunately an error of judgement on this occasion.
However, Marquez was not without blame in the clash, he clearly turned into Vale.
It's such a shame that one of the best seasons for many years should be decided like this.
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I watched it last night and couldn't believe it, Rossi got out Rossied by Marquez. Certainly wasn't Rossi at his best but he was pushed and pushed and just snapped.
Having read Rossi's autobiography recently and all the games with Biagi he's no saint but Marquez has been acting like a bit of a spoilt child for the last couple of races, he's clearly been holding Rossi up, in the last race Rossi signaled to him to stop pissing about and let's go catch Lorenzo. Sour grapes from Marquez, Rossi fueled the fire by having a pop at him last week about him having Rossi posters on his bedroom wall and Marquez responded on track with, like as been said further up this post, last lap lunges right from the get go.
I think Rossi had just had enough, I'm sure he didn't want him to crash but he wanted to significantly slow him down and get him out of his face so he could catch lorenzo.
Marquez has history of this sort of thing too though, and he was definitely goading Rossi, that's what they said in the hearing after, it was 6 of one and half dozen of the other, just that Rossi finished it.
I hope Rossi races and then gives Marquez a proper kick off his bike before instantly retiring :b It didn't do Thiery Henry or Zidanne any harm finishing off a career in style ha ha ha
Only joking, I want Rossi back next year to win it good and proper!
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well im a fan of rossi and lorenzo and admire marquez for his balls out ability ,but rossi was wrong i running him off the track helped by a knee to the brake lever very dissapointed BUT gotta question the intentions of marquez ,shame pedrosa's great win was overshadowed by this controversy
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Just got round to watching the highlights last night, and the footage from the helicopter seems to back up Rossi's side of the story i.e. Marquez went into him and knocked his foot off the peg on his way down.
But, from what I gather, that's not what Rossi's being penalised for. It's running Marquez wide that has got him the penalty points, so it seems the right call.
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Has Rossi not been slagging Marquez off and practically called him a liar? Marc ain't gonna do him no favours.
Last week Marc overtook him then rode at such a pace that Rossi couldn't close the gap
That's not the race I saw. And if that's the case Iannone must be part of this conspiracy.
The bottom line is Rossi is quick and still a fine racer but he doesn't quite have the pace. The wise old head on his shoulders has worked well for him this year, he's played things smart, but he's been losing it the last few weeks.
And it is a race folks, and that was racing.
Rossi should have been disqualified from that race.
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Has Rossi not been slagging Marquez off and practically called him a liar? Marc ain't gonna do him no favours.
Last week Marc overtook him then rode at such a pace that Rossi couldn't close the gap
That's not the race I saw. And if that's the case Iannone must be part of this conspiracy.
Considering how quickly Marc bridged the gap to Lorenzo on the last lap I could understand Rossi's questioning of Marcs ultimate pace,he had afterall been the quickest during qualifying. I don't believe for one moment that he was or is trying to decide the outcome of the championship but maybe he should leave Rossi and Lorenzo to fight it out among themselves.
As for Iannone, would he have been quick enough to stay with the leading pack had they all been riding at the limit
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Just watched it. Fantastic tussle up to then and great racing, but I don't think I've ever seen a more calculated move.
Seems like Rossi can give it, but he can't take it. Shame as I have (had) nothing but admiration for him.
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Then there is Rossi's brief post race interview - complete mince.
I can understand why he was pissed off and lost the plot, but he kinda set himself up, and perhaps he would have been best staying quiet after the race, maybe giving a more considered and honest interview later.
I'd guess race direction will probably have a wee chat with Marc as well. The two of em need to behave again.
But hey, great racing and great entertainment.
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Can't believe Rossi got away with taking Marc out today, but I do wonder if he decides to retire after he's had some time to think about his actions, I know it was at a low speed corner and the risk of injury small but he'd have to be asking himself what is he prepared to do to beat another rider and if its time to hang up the leathers
Very disapointed :\
Agree to disagree here IMO Marquez has taken out Rossi. By riding like a dick. Its a race and Marqueze has a record of been a dick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msu-z5Xp6gA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Msu-z5Xp6gA)
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perhaps this might change your mind. clearly MM went into Rossi twice.
https://www.facebook.com/FernandaTolozaArcos/videos/522703087905539/ (https://www.facebook.com/FernandaTolozaArcos/videos/522703087905539/)
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I saw the overhead shot and agree that marc was partly to blame but Rossi's intention was to run him off the track not just take him wide. He even looked several time to see where he was.
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perhaps this might change your mind. clearly MM went into Rossi twice.
Eh? The footage that that links to shows Marc trying repeatedly to try and take the turn as Rossi runs him wide and just about off the track.
That footage clearly shows exactly why Rossi should have been disqualified.
Rossi got off very lightly.
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(http://www.maxi-muppets.co.uk/forum/download/file.php?id=1671&t=1)
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! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sCbJCDHVpg#) :lol
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hahahahahahahahaha,,,
right or Wrong,,mr Rossi,,,haha, that's what happens when you upset men,,what did Marquez expect,,,a fooking handshake ?? applause,,,wtf
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listening to the whining from lorenzo and his actions on the podium.................i wish him a puncture/mechanical issue at valencia...........................or Rossi can slow down, get lapped and do a Cadalora on him ;)
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So Lorenzo says that Rossi's punishment is not enough, take Malasia's points off him,,,now hang on there Mr Lorenzo , Rossi is you team mate,,you are playing with fire now,,Yamaha racing pays you a million to race,,you will lose your job and be replaced by Bradley and goto Honda where everyone will hate you more..haha, suicide.l
So will Yamaha sack Lorenzo after Valencia ? pay him out,,,send him away into the wilderness .
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Wonder if Rossis appeal has anything to do with Lorenzo's decision, lets face it if Rossi gets a stay of execution and beats Lorenzo only to lose the title due to the courts decision it will be a very hollow victory
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I dont often get the chance watch moto GP but i watched this race and was really enjoying it......even my missus popped up from behind her ipad at times to watch the battle between 3rd & 4th place & regardless of who was holding up who it was those 2 that the cameras were following & that is entertainment.
For the layman......ie me......all this teams nonsense is what spoils sports like this & F1...,,drivel about who was using team tactics and who was deliberately holding up who for points etc....all that shit......its just for the sponsors...thats foccing boring i couldnt care less about that stuff.......whats wrong with having 1 racer per team on track at a time or am i being a simpleton.....why does everything have to end up being a bloody team sport.....it isnt football.....foc teamwork this is biking people just get on it and go balls out& stop being little bitches.
And for the record...imo...rossi wqs a dickhead.....just because you are popular doesnt make it inexcusable.
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Thought this was brilliant !!
https://youtu.be/0sCbJCDHVpg
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:rollin :rollin :rollin
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So Lorenzo says that Rossi's punishment is not enough, take Malasia's points off him,,,now hang on there Mr Lorenzo , Rossi is you team mate,,you are playing with fire now,,Yamaha racing pays you a million to race,,you will lose your job and be replaced by Bradley and goto Honda where everyone will hate you more..haha, suicide.l
So will Yamaha sack Lorenzo after Valencia ? pay him out,,,send him away into the wilderness .
That's an odd thing to say, can you remember what happened when they were team mates in 2009/10? Rossi wanted the wall built between them. Rossi decided to move to Ducati in 2011, which turned out to be a massive mistake.
My take on this event is maybe Marquez is thinking he has had a crap year because his bike was rubbish at the start of the year so just wanted to let Rossi & Lorenzo know he is now back on form and watch out next year. Played around with them, even Lorenzo at PI, let him get a lead then catch him up with a fastest lap at the end.
In 2010 Rossi was out of the title race because he broke his leg. When he came back he wanted to show he was still the greatest and rode at Motegi to prove it. ok, he finished 3rd not 1st, but he had to beat the new world champion elect, Lorenzo.
Lorenzo was ahead in the points, Pedrosa was out because of a busted collar bone, but even so, Rossi was still bashing fairings with Lorenzo. If Lorenzo had gone down and bust a leg he could still have lost the title.
I don't think Rossi would have given a shit, just like Marquez doesn't give a shit who wins this year, he is just out to prove he can beat them all.
Back to Sepang, whos to say if Marquez didn't crash he wouldn't have then caught up the leaders starting from the next lap and won again, just like at PI.
http://www.downvids.net/motegi-2010-rossi-vs-lorenzo-566060.html (http://www.downvids.net/motegi-2010-rossi-vs-lorenzo-566060.html)
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hitler finds out about sepang
https://youtu.be/ph7BfQlBkk8
enjoy!!
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Indeed Phil.
So Lorenzo says that Rossi's punishment is not enough, take Malasia's points off him,,,now hang on there Mr Lorenzo , Rossi is you team mate,,you are playing with fire now,,Yamaha racing pays you a million to race,,you will lose your job and be replaced by Bradley and goto Honda where everyone will hate you more..haha, suicide.l
Lorenzo has the pace over Rossi, so Yamaha will not be letting Lorenzo go in a hurry. Team mates don't have to get along in racing.
Rossi will ride with Yamaha for another year, well becuase he is Rossi and as long as he can hang in there at the front, well you know it's good for publicity, the legend and all that - it sells bikes. But at some time they need to look forwards and start looking for a new team mate for Lorenzo and somebody who can potentially win world champions ships now and in the future.
Bottom line, Rossi is still performing but for how long, he's not a young man any more.
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Thought this was brilliant !!
https://youtu.be/0sCbJCDHVpg (https://youtu.be/0sCbJCDHVpg)
:D :D :D
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Indeed Phil.
So Lorenzo says that Rossi's punishment is not enough, take Malasia's points off him,,,now hang on there Mr Lorenzo , Rossi is you team mate,,you are playing with fire now,,Yamaha racing pays you a million to race,,you will lose your job and be replaced by Bradley and goto Honda where everyone will hate you more..haha, suicide.l
Lorenzo has the pace over Rossi, so Yamaha will not be letting Lorenzo go in a hurry. Team mates don't have to get along in racing.
Rossi will ride with Yamaha for another year, well becuase he is Rossi and as long as he can hang in there at the front, well you know it's good for publicity, the legend and all that - it sells bikes. But at some time they need to look forwards and start looking for a new team mate for Lorenzo and somebody who can potentially win world champions ships now and in the future.
Bottom line, Rossi is still performing but for how long, he's not a young man any more.
Question for me is who's quick enough to fill Rossi's boots when he retires.
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Rossi does nothing without calculating it. He didn't mean for Marquez to come off, that was a miscalculation, or a fvck-up in our language.
Before the race, he could finish directly behind Lorrenzo in the next two races and be world champion. Marquez could stop him doing that, so he started the mind games; you want to help Lorenzo, you're interfering with the championship. Even the gesticulating during the race, all planned and calculated to make sure Marquez finished either behind Rossi, or in front of Lorenzo.
And the punishment by race control was a stroke of genius; Rossi would have to beat Lorenzo at Jarez, but it looked like a non-punishment to Rossi fans.
Rossi was unlucky Marquez came off, but (as a massive Rossi fan), he should have had his points taken off him.
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