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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: mr wayneker on 29 July 2015, 07:21:45 pm

Title: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 29 July 2015, 07:21:45 pm
just going up a hill and the oil light flicked on then off
just had oil change two weeks ago...checked oil and around and no
leaks.....any ideas
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 29 July 2015, 07:47:18 pm
How did you check the oil level?
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 29 July 2015, 08:01:20 pm
Turn engine on for about 30 seconds, switch off, and watch the oil settle in the window.
That will be your oil level.
You want it about two thirds up between the lower and upper level engine case markings next to the window.
It's an oil level light, not pressure, so I'm guessing you simply don't have enough oil in it.
Top up a tiny bit at a time then repeat the above steps, do not over fill it.
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 29 July 2015, 09:52:10 pm
it was quite a steep hill and under acceleration. Could it of given a false reading momentarily? 
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 29 July 2015, 10:38:38 pm
it was quite a steep hill and under acceleration. Could it of given a false reading momentarily?

Yes, but, it shouldn't really if at the correct level.

Bike on centre stand on level ground, start engine for 30 seconds, then watch the window for a minute and all will be revealed.
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: Jules-C on 29 July 2015, 10:43:55 pm
Some people have experienced the same thing with the light coming on once or twice while accelerating up hills. If it only happens very rarely its nothing to worry about if the oil level is OK when you check it
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 30 July 2015, 06:41:17 pm
I think that's all it is to
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: His Dudeness on 31 July 2015, 01:44:42 pm
Did you measure the number of litres of oil you put in? Was it what the manual says to put in? If yes then you've nothing to worry about ;)
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 31 July 2015, 02:58:12 pm
got them garage people to put it in when I had the bike looked over..just after I bought her

a question  :o if I was to take the clutch cover off would any oil come out
and would I have to replace the gasket :o :o :o
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: His Dudeness on 31 July 2015, 03:30:42 pm
If you leave it for a few hours and put it on the sidestand you shouldn't lose any oil but why do you want to take the cover off? You won't be able to tell if the oil is low from that. You'll have to drain it and refill it with the correct amount to be sure
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 31 July 2015, 05:20:01 pm
Have you not checked the level yet?

Just follow the easy steps I wrote above, the window is down low on the right side of the sump.
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 31 July 2015, 09:46:13 pm
yeah checked level darrsi allllllllll good

dudeness its for when I get a new clutch cover...not to check oil :D
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 01 August 2015, 03:06:37 am
got them garage people to put it in when I had the bike looked over..just after I bought her

a question  :o if I was to take the clutch cover off would any oil come out
and would I have to replace the gasket :o :o :o


Lay the bike on lots of bubble wrap.....sorted  :thumbup
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: Jules-C on 01 August 2015, 08:05:05 am
And you will need a new gasket. Make sure the engine casing has any traces of the old gasket removed before you fit the new one
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: gerkin on 03 August 2015, 06:26:07 pm
ive had this ,its ok if oil level is at its highest in the site glass but comes on if near the lower mark
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: fazersharp on 03 August 2015, 09:50:58 pm
ive had this ,its ok if oil level is at its highest in the site glass but comes on if near the lower mark
Thats about an egg cup difference isnt it
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 03 August 2015, 11:06:36 pm
ive had this ,its ok if oil level is at its highest in the site glass but comes on if near the lower mark
Thats about an egg cup difference isnt it

Yes, if your bike has an oil sump the width of an egg cup!
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: noggythenog on 03 August 2015, 11:29:02 pm
ive had this ,its ok if oil level is at its highest in the site glass but comes on if near the lower mark
Thats about an egg cup difference isnt it

Yes, if your bike has an oil sump the width of an egg cup!


Ostrich egg cup Darrsi


Switch on will ya :pokefun
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 07 August 2015, 07:51:17 pm
ok so went up the same hill today annnnnnnnnnnnd nothing so must have been a glitch :z
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: fazersharp on 07 August 2015, 10:57:14 pm
ok so went up the same hill today annnnnnnnnnnnd nothing so must have been a glitch :z
you were just slower
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 08 August 2015, 07:21:19 am
Did you actually ever check the oil level, as above?
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 08 August 2015, 08:29:02 pm
 ;)post #12 darrsi
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 08 August 2015, 09:09:30 pm
;)post #12 darrsi

Apologies,  I overlooked that one.  ;)
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: fazersharp on 17 August 2015, 12:30:08 pm
My oil level is correct and again yesterday I managed to get the light to flick on for a split second, it was during a straight across a quiet roundabout move  ;) .
So im thinking the red light is more of an angle/acceleration indicator.  :b   
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: stevierst on 17 August 2015, 01:23:51 pm
Both my R1'S and my gen 1 had the same oil light problem, but only when it's cold and level is somewhere in the middle. If I top it up to the max mark, it doesn't happen.

When the light comes on as I'm rolling along, pull in the clutch, flick the kill switch off, and let the engine die. Kill switch to on, and restart. Light goes out and I just carry on without any further incident.
Get home after the ride and top it up.
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: mr wayneker on 19 August 2015, 05:04:40 pm
I suppose if the light doesn't stay on it should be fine?

do these bikes use a lot of oil???
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: stevierst on 19 August 2015, 09:22:32 pm
Not normally. We are talking an eggcup or two every 6-7,000 miles as in between services.

Not like my tdm which I had to put nearly as much oil in as petrol :-[:-[
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: fazersharp on 19 August 2015, 10:21:18 pm
I just think it is very sensitive, when it flashes on it must still be covered in oil Im not sure how it works. The fuel light on mine anyway will start to glow before it comes on full where the oil light is instant on or off   
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 19 August 2015, 10:45:19 pm
Not normally. We are talking an eggcup or two every 6-7,000 miles as in between services.

Not like my tdm which I had to put nearly as much oil in as petrol :-[:-[

Do you share egg cups with fazersharp?  :lol
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: fazersharp on 19 August 2015, 10:52:32 pm
I think it has become an actual official unit of oil measure. Brent crude trading at $0.001 an eggcup
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: stevierst on 21 August 2015, 12:47:14 pm
Is it a metric or imperial egg cup though?  :P
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: darrsi on 21 August 2015, 12:51:10 pm
I never top up any oil at all in between changes, they're pretty damn good for that.  :thumbup
Title: Re: oil light?
Post by: johnnymnemonic on 28 August 2015, 05:39:45 pm
I own a 99 boxeyed since earlier this year and I'm really happy with it so far. The only thing I came across was exactly the incident described here.

I was riding through the dolomites a few days and the oil light suddenly started to come alive when going uphills and revs above ~6000. It was not even just a flicker but a steady light unless i released the throttle (i only tried for 1 or two seconds though). I was very anxious since i only have basic mechanical knowledge. At the same time I was confused, knowing it was a oil-level - not pressure - indicator on that bike so I'd never expected that thing to come on while driving in the first place (no idea how a "oil level" can be indicated/measured while the sludge in there is tossed around at ridiculous speed).
I always try to keep an eye on the basic maintenance indicators - like the oil glass - and the level visible was about half way between min and max at that time - so i was worried that this wouldnt be the problem but something else (worse?).
I payed the next available bike mechanics a visit and the first thing he told me was, that this is a known yamaha thing - the oil lvl indicators are rather sensitive and tend to warn you rather early if the oil level is not near the max lvl ... he then just filled her up again (probably about the amount of 1 or two eggcups ... metric ones in my case, i assume :) ) and sent me off into the mountains again.
No red lights anymore since, so i guess that was really it.