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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: anutz on 16 July 2015, 09:04:42 pm
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so i am trying to get the cable routing correct near the battery, mainly for the 4 wires coming from the lower engine ( temp, pressure, neutral and other....) as well as the starter motor wire to its relay behind the battery...
I took pictures before i stripped the bike but cannot figure out how the STARTER motor wire routes, does it stay on the outside of the battey compartment under the relays or does it go somewhere else...
if anyone can make sense of what i just said or has a pic handy would be appreciated.....
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So far i have this....the thick starter lead is don't have routed yet
(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/2E270BBD-100C-4792-9F32-5C0BF82E1339_zps7rsywv9z.jpg)
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Does it not show in the manual? I'll take a pic of mine tomorrow to help you anutz :)
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Thanks Sinto - it does but its not clear to me - if you can get a pic of the side like i have as well as the way the cable is tucked behind the relay or however it is routed at the relay that would be great, no rush....
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Any good anutz?
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i think so....
the first pic, at the top above the yellow/blue wires, is that the starter motor wire curling in to the top of the relay, any chance u can snap that, i want to see once it has ran along under the relays and up does it snake back onto the relay?
thanks sinto
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so as advised by Unfazed "Page 8 in the supplementary manual shows it well, but you need to magnify it up to 300 to get a good look at it."....
Might do the trick Sinto so you can stand down with the camera :lol
i shall try this first then post my results!
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Page 8 of the 2000 supplementary manual shows it well but you need to up the magnification to about 300
It is routed strangely from the terminal nearest the battery.
Just checked mine and it is out to the left and down about 40mm then back and up the same height then down under the harness and inside the frame clipped to the harness on the way to the starter motor.
See, clear as mud, will try and get a picture tomorrow evening if you cannot follow the clear as mud explanation above :lol
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Page 8 of the 2000 supplementary manual shows it well but you need to up the magnification to about 300
It is routed strangely from the terminal nearest the battery.
Just checked mine and it is out to the left and down about 40mm then back and up the same height then down under the harness and inside the frame clipped to the harness on the way to the starter motor.
See, clear as mud, will try and get a picture tomorrow evening if you cannot follow the clear as mud explanation above :lol
I'm confused :(
Anutz posts a quotation from you before you've posted it and then you make it really clear as to how the wires go :lol and to add to this, I don't have the relay to the left, this isn't fair! I want one of those, what's it for anyway? :b
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i think so....
the first pic, at the top above the yellow/blue wires, is that the starter motor wire curling in to the top of the relay, any chance u can snap that, i want to see once it has ran along under the relays and up does it snake back onto the relay?
thanks sinto
Need to be tomorrow now anutz, I just ran out to garage to get a few snaps for you to try and help, in bed now matey :rolleyes
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Page 8 of the 2000 supplementary manual shows it well but you need to up the magnification to about 300
It is routed strangely from the terminal nearest the battery.
Just checked mine and it is out to the left and down about 40mm then back and up the same height then down under the harness and inside the frame clipped to the harness on the way to the starter motor.
See, clear as mud, will try and get a picture tomorrow evening if you cannot follow the clear as mud explanation above :lol
I'm confused :(
Anutz posts a quotation from you before you've posted it and then you make it really clear as to how the wires go :lol and to add to this, I don't have the relay to the left, this isn't fair! I want one of those, what's it for anyway? :b
its a anti-gravity relay, flick the switch and its turns into a flying machine!
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its a anti-gravity relay, flick the switch and its turns into a flying machine!
Ahh right, so it changes your bike's colour to red as well to do that? That's why I ain't got one, I've got it fitted as standard with my red bike :rollin
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is that not the sign for a Diode?????
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I'm confused :(
So whats new :lol :lol :lol
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I'm confused :(
So whats new :lol :lol :lol
Foccin nothing tbh :b :2fingers
I don't even have to work hard to get confused :lol
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is that not the sign for a Diode?????
So......back on topic, aside from the potential that its an anti-gravity relay, it does have a diode sign on it?
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What year is your bike anutz? Mines is '98, doesn't have one, intresting to find out what it's for :)
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Its 2001, the supplement manual says its a relay assembly....really helpful, unless its a big diode that is there to prevent the reverse emf of the motor causing issues to something else
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I don't know and now I'm more confused :b (than normal)
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To suppress Sintos confused state :lol
It is the diode for the Neutral Light circuit, on the 98-99 models it is under the tank and on the foxeye models it is integrated into the Starter cut out relay and the 2000-2001 models it is as you see in Anutzs picture :)
I can see a question coming here :eek
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To suppress Sintos confused state :lol
I resemble that remark :b
It is the diode for the Neutral Light circuit, on the 98-99 models it is under the tank and on the foxeye models it is integrated into the Starter cut out relay and the 2000-2001 models it is as you see in Anutzs picture :)
Ahh, that's cleared it up, cheers :)
I can see a question coming here :eek
No more questions your honor :rolleyes
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The issue is how this connection and routing happens...
(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/9194B895-9380-4F4A-9876-299A66727827_zpsy7sj5jia.jpg)
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Relay is in the wrong way, rotate it 90degrees anticlockwise from where it is in the picture and then follow the previous clear as mud instruction :)
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thanks Unfazed.....i shall try that.... :lol
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not sure its in the wrong way, if i rotate it then nothing reaches and the positive lead is pointing the wrong way....
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The red lead comes out the back and turns to the right and over the top of the relay between the connections and the fuses to the battery positive. When all tightened up push the lead down the rear of the relay.
Check out the routing on page 15 of the manual
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:'( This is harder than getting the timing chain and cams lined up!
Tommorow i shall have another bash :b
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:'( This is harder than getting the timing chain and cams lined up!
Tommorow i shall have another bash :b
You'll be fine anutz, as suggested by unfazed, you'll be looking a book with pictures in it :b :rollin
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OK think i got it!
(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/5587135A-A7DA-4257-80CF-053EAA8471B0_zpsbyvut2b0.jpg)
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Not quite correct. Take off the red cable from the battery and pull it back, then put it to the right side of the relay (bike right side) and back to the battery over the top of the relay. The black cable looks fine.
The reason it goes over the top of the relay is that it make it easier to remove and move away from the battery if ever it is necessary when working on the bike.
I will try and get a picture of mine later.
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ah i see what you mean, i will go re-route that little bugger......you see.....it was easier to get the engine timing right :lol
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ah i see what you mean, i will go re-route that little bugger......you see.....it was easier to get the engine timing right :lol
:rollin :rollin
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Here is the picture of mine and it has been that way for 86000miles :lol
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Is that a crop circle to the right of your picture unfazed? :b