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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: 7omly on 30 June 2015, 12:25:22 am
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I'm a bit perplexed. I pulled up next to another Fazer today and noticed it it had a different speedo to mine. Mine has a 260mph speedo. The other Fazer had a 260kph/160mph. Mine has no kph scale. Is this normal?
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notice your "mph" sticker that is covering a kmh print.
it will have a speedo healer built in to take it to mph.
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Or if it doesn't have a healer fitted, you have been riding very slowly lol.
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:agree
That is the speedo off of a European bike. Your bike may be a parallel import rather than a genuine UK bike or the speedo may have been changed for a euro one.
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Yep definitely a MPH sicker over the KPH
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Hi 7omly,
in top gear at around 5000 revs have a look at what the speedo reads . . .
Is it 60 or 100? This will tell you if your reading Mph (60) or Kph (100) :rollin
Anyway, 260mph! that's the top end of this Porsche 9FF, even if it is blue :lol
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Hi 7omly,
in top gear at around 5000 revs have a look at what the speedo reads . . .
Is it 60 or 100? This will tell you if your reading Mph (60) or Kph (100) :rollin
Anyway, 260mph! that's the top end of this Porsche 9FF, even if it is blue :lol
I know some people make a lot of stuff up on here to look cool but come on man.. a blue car doing 260mph... only a black car can go that fast.
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Around 60mph at 5000rpm. The good news is I can simply replace it with a genuine UK speedo? Anyone got one going cheap?
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-5DM-Clocks-Speedo-Speedometer-BREAKING-FZS-600-/221752079358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a17433fe (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-Yamaha-FZS600-Fazer-5DM-Clocks-Speedo-Speedometer-BREAKING-FZS-600-/221752079358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33a17433fe)
all around £45 on ebay
i know where there is a speedo.. in a breakers ill be going by thursday maybe i can have an ask but i should imagine it will be about the same.
or..
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-S-FAZER-2001-2003-REPLACEMENT-MPH-SPEEDO-CLOCK-DIAL-UNDERLAY-/171214093138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27dd27bb52 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS600-S-FAZER-2001-2003-REPLACEMENT-MPH-SPEEDO-CLOCK-DIAL-UNDERLAY-/171214093138?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27dd27bb52)
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7omly - There will be a box of tricks somewhere between the sensor and the speedo to make it read 60 instead of 100. You will have to remove that if you fit a UK speedo.
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Thanks BBROWN1664, I thought as much. I'm hoping it's just behind the speedo. To get a replacement with a time clock isn't easy as most are the earlier 1998-99 ones. It's still a fantastic bike and has rekindled my love of riding. The divvy was more or less for commuting but the Fazer is for everything because it's just fun to ride. I even find myself riding when it's rainy instead of using the car. :)
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buy the number sheet thing that i posted above for £20. job done.
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7Omly - The connectors are different on the later speedos. it wont be a straight plug in job.
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My bike is a 2000 FZS600S with the time clock on it. I thought of buying the dial but was too keen on taking off the speedo needle. If I buy that dial will I have to remove the speedo healer. At 70 my needle is only one third of the way round the dial but on UK bikes 70mph is almost half way round.
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the healer is just a box with a plug on it.
get a decent set of pliers on the needle itll be fine
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Thanks for the advice. I'm now unsure if the clocks are even off the right bike. Mine have odometer, trip one, trip two and time clock respectively when you press the top button. However I've seen what I assume are later boxeye clocks with a separate LCD display at the bottom of the rev counter. The more I look into it the more confused I am.
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post a picture of your whole clocks.
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Here are the clocks on the bike.
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buy the number sheet thing that i posted above for £20. job done.
My bike is exactly the same. Please correct me if I am wrong, but if you fit a new U. K. speedo face obviously the needle will then not read correctly, you will have to remove the electrical corrector box. But the bike will then record the mileage in kilometres as it is a genuine European speedo you have stuck the new face onto! I think?
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Decoke
If you convert the speedo (as 7Omly's has been done) the odometer starts to increase in miles instead of km's from the point of the conversion.
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Decoke
If you convert the speedo (as 7Omly's has been done) the odometer starts to increase in miles instead of km's from the point of the conversion.
Sorry I wasn't very clear on what I was saying, I meant if he tries to change it to be like a U.K. bike by fitting a replacement U.K. style dial face and removing the corrector, the speedo will be o.k. but it will revert back to recording the distance in kilometres. I think! Please correct me if i am wrong.
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yes. That's right.
Dismantling the speedo case will often cause more problems than it solves too.
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The nightmare continues. I purchased a low mileage (15,500 miles) and they look mint. I followed the advice of foccers and removed the speedo healer. I fitted the replacement clocks and the fun began. As soon as I switched the ignition on the speedo needle went to 28mph. I took the bike for a ride and ridethe speedo responds oddly. I reckon I was doing around 45 but the speedo was showing around 75mph. My bike appears to have an electronic speedo pick up on the left fork leg. Are these Kmh or Mph specific. I beginning to despair. The bike runs perfect in all other respects. Whilst I was removing the speedo healer from the junction box under the tank I found this item with a green wire going into one side and a black/red one coming out of the other but not connected to anything. Any help would be grateful because I now have the better half nagging me about buying a dog, not the canine variety but the bike. Women don't understand that at 15 year old it just might need some maintenance.
:'(
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Speedo running at 28 mph at idle. :'(
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Removing this didn't sort it as I hoped it would. :'(
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The green wire mod is probably to do with getting both headlights to come on.
Sounds like you have some dodgy clocks.
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Had a look at the speedo sensor at the front wheel. It looks okay but could this be the culprit for the 28 mph reading? Any help would be greatly appreciated because I need to get out riding.
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This looks okay but could it be that this is sending kph signals?
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This looks okay but is it possible that it could be sending signals in kph to the speedo?
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The green wire mod is probably to do with getting both headlights to come on.
Sounds like you have some dodgy clocks.
I must agree! The clocks may look mint but may have a problem! Obviously if you know someone with a U.K. box eye you could try them on that as proof. I am doing exactly the same mod and waiting for some U.K. clocks to arrive (I hate the bikes top speed being at around 12'O' clock on the import K.P.H/ M.P.H. speedo!!!!) I will keep you posted as to how I get on. I am new to this forum but do not despair there are some very knowledgeable and very helpful members on here! P.S. could powering up the bike/or running it with the healer in damage the U.K. clocks? Only thinking out loud at reasons that they could have become damaged.
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All the healers do is drop a number of the pulses to the speedo. For every (as a example) 1600 rotations of the wheel, only 1000 pulses are passed through to the speedo a a turning 1.6km into 1 mile instead.
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Women don't understand that at 15 year old it just might need some maintenance.
:'(
Think the words "women don't understand" enough said :rollin
But :stop ..... on a more serious note, get that wiring sorted, that's a fire waiting to happen, and as already stated it looks like it's the wire for twin headlamp mod.
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So in theory I could put a fastin connector on the other end of this and feed it into the H4 right side headlamp connector. I intend to do this and convert to HOD at the same time. No garage so have to wait for a sunny day to get it done. If I remember I'll take photos when I do it.
The original clocks are back on and are working fine so the clocks looked mint but were obviously faulty. As the wife says I'm a lucky bugger I am.
Thanks to everyone who helped.
As the old feller said on Phoenix Nights "It's a Smashing Little Club" :D
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DONT WAIT TILL A SUNNY DAY, GET THAT SORTED ASAP
Electrical fires aren't funny and you might not have a clue it's even going on fire if your away from your bike as it'll smoulder away.
Doesn't make any difference what connector you put on it at the moment as your going to do all the lights again, I presume your going HID route? But regardless, cover those bare wires, as if they touch anything else you'll do more than 'blow the bloody doors off'
whoever done that job in the first place would scare me and I'd need to check the whole foccin bike if that's his handywork :eek
A bit of insulation tape or even sellotape, till you do it properly, is better than nothing,
but I'd personally take off the cover that's on there, slide heatshrink over the wires, solder the bare ends together, slide the heatshrink over the soldered ends then heat that, jobs a good one :)
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Whilst I welcome your attitude towards fire safety rest assured as soon as I photographed it I wrapped the exposed wires in electrical insulating tape. I never fit anything to a bike or car with a fuse or if it's heavy current a relay. A short can easily take out your entire wiring loom. Thanks for the advice anyway. It's nice that people still care enough to offer advice.