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Title: Springs...
Post by: anutz on 24 June 2015, 04:11:25 pm
Thought i would post this pic, i got a set of hyperpro springs off ebay for 42£ delivered, too cheap to pass up the chance to try them and see what they are like - sure i can sell them on for at least that...

Anyway here we are, little longer, will see how i think they change the bike, i am 18 stone with all gear on....

Left are the ones that were in my forks, i am assuming OEM, and the right ones are the ones that were sold to me as Hyperpro, so assuming both those points are true  :)

(http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/yy120/antz15/7DED2235-F82A-4D07-9D75-18426FADEE82_zps3qyyecyk.jpg)
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: Paulfzs on 24 June 2015, 10:33:38 pm
give you £10 for the hyperpro right now, save the hassle of fitting them ;)
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: anutz on 24 June 2015, 10:43:09 pm
ha ha  :)

If they are crap i will be ebaying them but reality it each time i touch on the subject of springs its a barrage of "don't but linears....." or "don't buy progressives"
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Post by: Val on 24 June 2015, 10:56:32 pm
they look nice do you plan to go for 15w oil too?
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Post by: anutz on 24 June 2015, 11:17:05 pm
just reading up on that stuff so not sure yet
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Post by: Paulfzs on 24 June 2015, 11:51:41 pm
could open yourself up to a world of hurt...


caliper bolts come off okay? or snap :D


fork bolts come undone or snap :D


This could turn into a nice long thread haha :D might be fine though!


fit em stick in some 10w oil and see how it goes..  worst case take spring out put originals back
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Post by: anutz on 24 June 2015, 11:58:41 pm
could open yourself up to a world of hurt...


caliper bolts come off okay? or snap :D


fork bolts come undone or snap :D


This could turn into a nice long thread haha :D might be fine though!


fit em stick in some 10w oil and see how it goes..  worst case take spring out put originals back


got forks off and drained....no issues with any bolts thank god - last one i buggered was a fender one

calipers and stuff were ok thankfully.

Regards worst case - totally agree - thats the nice thing - if its crap, i take them out and get rid, but suspect they have to be better than stock for my weight


Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: Paulfzs on 25 June 2015, 02:26:59 am
well happy days then! get em fitted. cant be worse than stock surely
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Post by: Punkstig on 25 June 2015, 10:26:29 am
Fill this out asking them what oil they recommend for your weight with their springs!
http://hyperpro.com/en/contact/
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Post by: anutz on 25 June 2015, 11:29:23 am
OK so got a response very quickly!!!

SAE 20....
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Post by: anutz on 25 June 2015, 11:30:34 am
how much would i need to buy i.e. 1L bottle of Fork Oil, what volumes are was dealing with in terms of per leg?
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Post by: anutz on 25 June 2015, 12:33:07 pm
Also for refence 150mm air chamber is advised....
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Post by: risticuss on 25 June 2015, 12:59:23 pm
My bike is fitted with Hyperpro springs front and back and the yokes are supposed to be dropped down the forks by 15mm to return the front to it's standard height.


The kit was fitted by the previous-previous owner (one of the lads on here) and he bought it as a set with oil included I think.


Anyway, here's the chart that came with the manual


(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l109/risticuss/IMAG1049_zpsa363ca0d.jpg) (http://s94.photobucket.com/user/risticuss/media/IMAG1049_zpsa363ca0d.jpg.html)
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Post by: Bimbam on 25 June 2015, 01:13:51 pm
yes remember the 15 m. see pic.
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: anutz on 25 June 2015, 01:38:48 pm
guys appreciate the posts, shall get some fork oil ordered and see what i can do...


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Post by: sinto on 25 June 2015, 06:09:09 pm
well happy days then! get em fitted. cant be worse than stock surely
Oh I really hope they are :pokefun @ anutz :lol
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Post by: sinto on 25 June 2015, 06:13:24 pm
yes remember the 15 m. see pic.
I really hope you just mistyped there Bimbam :pokefun 15m?

But seriously,  why this 15mm drop on the yokes or rise in the forks, whatever way it's put, why does this make any difference?  Does anyone know?
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Post by: paulchucky on 25 June 2015, 07:20:21 pm
yes remember the 15 m. see pic.
I really hope you just mistyped there Bimbam :pokefun 15m?

But seriously,  why this 15mm drop on the yokes or rise in the forks, whatever way it's put, why does this make any difference?  Does anyone know?


makes turn in sharper etc
in other word alters steering angle rake etc


im running vfr springs, eliminators, 17/18wt oil 100mm air gap,fork through yokes 20mm(thats co im currently running 70 series tyre)
bikes well balanced and stable at speed  not too twitchy  ( but im not worried about front coming up) has transformed handling alot no more running wide in corners  :) [size=78%] [/size]
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Post by: sinto on 25 June 2015, 07:38:33 pm
I know of it turning in quicker, I'm more intrigued to find out why people are saying "you have to have the 15mm"?
You can have them anywhere you really want to surely? Providing both sides are equal and it's not obstructing anything else,  it's then down to personal choice and preferences which you only get with trial and error, what suits one rider won't maybe suit another? :)
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Post by: Jules-C on 25 June 2015, 07:52:38 pm
It's probably just to get the ride height back to standard, they could've said cut 15mm off spacer but that would mean losing 15mm of fork travel.

What surprises me is they are quoting the same for all ages of Fazer when the Yamaha spring length is different on models with or without preload adjusters.
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Post by: sinto on 25 June 2015, 07:58:39 pm
Good thought there Jules-C :)
It probably also got list in translation somewhere along the line :lol
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Post by: Bimbam on 25 June 2015, 08:15:06 pm
Yes, i missed a m. :b
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Post by: sinto on 25 June 2015, 08:18:25 pm
Yes, i missed a m. :b

Phew :D
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: anutz on 25 June 2015, 10:05:10 pm
quick update, have no oil yet but re-assembled the forks with new springs in and they are MUCH firmer, so looking promising...

With my OEM ones i compress them by hand, with these springs no chance, had to put some weight into it....so might be spot on for a big boned person like me...


Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: Paulfzs on 26 June 2015, 11:49:27 am
big boned isn't an acceptable word for cake addicted ;)


Looking forward to hear improvements


how much do you weigh?
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: anutz on 26 June 2015, 11:55:40 am
well on a good day i am 17/17.5 stones, so with kit on about 18.....i am on a diet but its not working  :lol
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Post by: HarryHornby on 26 June 2015, 12:05:17 pm
How did you find them so cheap?  were they second hand?  I wouldn't say no to a set at that price :-)
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Post by: anutz on 26 June 2015, 12:15:59 pm
ebay - the listing said FZR600 so might have put people off.....listing was updated to clarify it was for FZS600 but title was the same - only one other bidder....so got really lucky!
Title: Re: Springs...
Post by: paulchucky on 26 June 2015, 07:04:18 pm
I know of it turning in quicker, I'm more intrigued to find out why people are saying "you have to have the 15mm"?
You can have them anywhere you really want to surely? Providing both sides are equal and it's not obstructing anything else,  it's then down to personal choice and preferences which you only get with trial and error, what suits one rider won't maybe suit another? :)


totally agree whats good for 1 maybe awfull for amother  all anyone can really do is take onboard what all say and work out a starting point and experiment with settings taking notes as to what does what and how comfy indvidual feels happy with,  theres alot of difference betwenn a soft comfy ride to a firm harsh ride   
from experience i find if you start soft and firm things up gradually  you`ll get to a point that suites you  :)