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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 12:41:55 pm

Title: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 12:41:55 pm
Anyone using End of Bar mounted mirrors here - and dropped the faired ones?

I know i can get some screw in mirrors that locate into the level assemblies...but what are the mirrors that screw on the end of the bars like - in terms of visibility, if they were all you had?
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 24 May 2015, 01:05:42 pm
I think the general consensus is (and I am in agreement also ) is that they look crap, on our bikes at least, but are you ditching the fairing - on my (98 )bars I have a screw thread for bar mounted mirrors as well
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 01:20:21 pm
not ditching the fairing right now  - the headlight loom is going to need re-wiring and i want to ride it soon so its on hold  :)

i will stick with some normal mirrors mounted on the lever assemblies - only issue there is the right one is threaded so may need to get a new one - i.e. master cylinder assembly
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: sinto on 24 May 2015, 04:04:03 pm
only issue there is the right one is threaded so may need to get a new one - i.e. master cylinder assembly

Aren't they meant to be threaded? but one will be left handed and other will be right handed, well that's the way they've been on previous bikes of mine, would imagine it's the same on fazer :)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: stevierst on 24 May 2015, 04:09:29 pm
I've been using bar end mirrors for the past 8 years or so on my R1's, but never a Fazer.

Gotta admit, they're the best rear view of any mirrors I've ever used, and bar mounted ones have always been very vibey for me.

Bar ends are not the best looking, but probably the best I've used. If you get some, try and get the Oberon type with convex lenses. There are some chinese copy ones out there which are very good.

Only problem is they don't come ready to fit to standard bars. You'd have to do a bit of creative engineering to get them to fit. Or get a pair of Renthals! 8)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 05:25:56 pm
sorry sinto - i mean xthreaded - its nackered i can screw into it a little bit i.e. few turns then you feel it bite and if you look inside you can see the thread is disrupted

Unless i can do somethnig like drill it out and put a coil in that is the correct size again - but with it being the unit that has the master brake cylinder assembly integrated into it i am not keen....

I can get a second hand one for 25£ - but no rush now

regards the bar end mirrors, IF i do eventually street the bike, which i want to do - i will look at the bar end mirrors and thanks for the advice on the make
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: sinto on 24 May 2015, 05:32:39 pm
You should maybe just go straight for the bar end mirrors, would it be worth your money and hassle to get a mirror when your going to change anyhow?

Mirrors are only there for helping you see behind you, and I'm sure they aren't an mot fail,  but if you have them on then they must be in working condition for mot, crazy foccin rules, but anyway, that's why you should be doing lifesavers anyhow :)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: Tommyk on 24 May 2015, 07:56:27 pm
Hi mate my fazer is street fightered I have screw in mirrors bar mounted hate them
Don't look right haven't got round to changing
Them yet but bar ends are on the long list of things I wanna change

Mirrors are not an mot requirement
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 08:03:06 pm
hmmmm.....NOT an MOT requirement.....

i might just leave them off when i do it......they seem to add no value except to distract you with glimpses of your elbows...

If i need to see whats to my side i turn my head, may try some small bar end mounted ones just to get the rear view...

Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: sinto on 24 May 2015, 08:05:26 pm
Mmm didn't I say that earlier? :pokefun
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 08:18:09 pm
sorry sinto!

my internet connection has been foccing crazy so i have been seeing some email alerts and not others!

 :pc
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 24 May 2015, 08:28:38 pm
What you need is mirrors mounted ON your elbows
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: sinto on 24 May 2015, 08:31:36 pm
Or this :pokefun
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 08:33:26 pm
or some eyes in the back of my head...... :lol
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 24 May 2015, 08:52:14 pm
Now then --- have you seen those helmets with the backward facing periscope built in, they dont seem to of caught on here http://www.reevu.com/ (http://www.reevu.com/)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 24 May 2015, 08:54:53 pm
thats intresting......i wander how big the view actually is and if it would distract you?
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: stevierst on 24 May 2015, 09:02:54 pm
You've got to physically look up onto the top of your lid almost uncomfortably to see into the mirror, but the view is superb.

The only problem is that it doesn't satellite your head actions like looking in wing mirrors does, letting those drivers that are aware what you might do next.
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: sinto on 24 May 2015, 09:17:05 pm
I wouldn't trust it, fine for nice big touring roads in the USA or the like but not here where you have to be like a foccin owl to keep an eye on those cage driver's we have on our roads :groan
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: Nebuchernezzer on 25 May 2015, 06:55:07 am
I had to move my arms or shoulders to use the OEM mirrors. I don't think the bar end mirrors look the best, but i don't think they look bad either.  Just got some cheap chinese EBAY ones to try out in case i didn't like them/they sucked but they are actually really good.  Work well, can glance in them and NOT just see myself.  Yeah.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/20150217_183145_zps0uyuiiyp.jpg)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 08:30:08 am
I had to move my arms or shoulders to use the OEM mirrors. I don't think the bar end mirrors look the best, but i don't think they look bad either.  Just got some cheap chinese EBAY ones to try out in case i didn't like them/they sucked but they are actually really good.  Work well, can glance in them and NOT just see myself.  Yeah.


Thanks for that post, i have seen those on ebay so may well take a look, i know they are not amazing looking but that are not sooooo bad...


can i ask what bars you have on there?
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 25 May 2015, 10:42:41 am
Heres a mock up of anan idea I have come up with these would be molded to the outside shape and would Velcro into position - a 2 minute job to fit

(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15403.0;attach=15305;image)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 10:53:25 am
hmmm......if that would work that would be nice...

when you say mock up - is this computer stuff or an actual piece of kit you made/got?
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 10:56:08 am
I had to move my arms or shoulders to use the OEM mirrors. I don't think the bar end mirrors look the best, but i don't think they look bad either.  Just got some cheap chinese EBAY ones to try out in case i didn't like them/they sucked but they are actually really good.  Work well, can glance in them and NOT just see myself.  Yeah.



These look like the ones...???

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Golden-Anti-Glare-ATV-Motorcycle-bike-7-8-Handle-Bar-End-Rear-View-Side-Mirror-/291166086995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43cad9e753 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Golden-Anti-Glare-ATV-Motorcycle-bike-7-8-Handle-Bar-End-Rear-View-Side-Mirror-/291166086995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43cad9e753)
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 25 May 2015, 11:15:40 am
hmmm......if that would work that would be nice...

when you say mock up - is this computer stuff or an actual piece of kit you made/got?

Computer mock up only im afraid.  I should patent it.
I even thought of adding a block under the mirror mount - between the mount and fairing to jack up the mirror which would help.
I have got used to doing the "funky chicken" when I use the mirrors, and I am not that wide a chap anyway but the simple option for a better view is to fit 1000 mirrors as they are longer stems
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 11:30:44 am
funky chicken.....thats a good way to describe it  :lol





































Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: celticdog on 25 May 2015, 11:40:27 am
It's a difficult one, the old elbow in mirror problem. I've got the little disc mirrors fitted, not ideal but they give a good view of the road periphery.
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 11:43:28 am
i ordered a set of those bar end ones off the ebay link - cheap enough for a gamble....and not horiffic looking....depending on your view point
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: fazersharp on 25 May 2015, 11:53:51 am
Those bar end ones looks like you have removed the OEM bar weights -- is that an issue, it would be better if that clamp on the mirrors went around the OEM bar ends without having to remove them to fit the mirrors
Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: anutz on 25 May 2015, 11:55:26 am
i think u are correct on inspection.....

Title: Re: Bar Mirrors...
Post by: Nebuchernezzer on 26 May 2015, 07:32:51 am
The ones I got could probably clamp around a bar weight if the weight is the right diameter.
The mirrors come clamped to a piece of aluminium with a bolt through it that you screw to the bars anyways.  Just unclamp them off that and clamp them onto your weights (if they are the right diameter as mentioned before)

I didn't have bar end weights, just caps so i just took them out and screwed in the ebay bar end mirrors.
I've not noticed any bad vibes etc without weights anyways but i don't spend alot of time at one speed (commuting across city mostly)


EDIT: yeah those cheapos off ebay are the same as what i have.