Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: chris.biker on 08 May 2015, 06:17:23 pm
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I like the look of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WypZvsIj8-k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WypZvsIj8-k)
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I agree. Never heard of Mission Motorcycles before. That bike looks amazing and would seem to offer just what I have sitting in th garag now. Price is prohibitive, but if you look at the latest Panegale at £25k then not that far off. I'm all for electric, bring it on. Would love to have a go on this.
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Looks pretty awesome but the catch as always is the range. Battery tech hasn't caught up to the convenience of combustion fuels yet :( That's the only thing that would stop me for sure
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I rarely get 25 miles from my house anyway and most trips are to work and back. I would get one over a panegale if both were an option
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I'd be alright Jack. Free charge point's in Q car parks :)
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I imagine it would be good for the odd small bimble or commuter job, but you would certainly have issues if you wanted to do any sort of touring, or medium-long stretches. I can't see it being any use for having a day out in Wales for example unless you lived there, or fairly close by. Hell, for most of us, by the time we go to some of our favourite roads we'd probably have to limp home again... :(
All that being said and done though, perhaps it will encourage a wider adoption of electrical charging outlets across the country. Ultimately there is a need for improved battery tech, so that you can stuff a ridiculous amount of amps down its throat in one go without any reliability / lifetime issues
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It charges in an hour, so lunch time at a stop off could afford to pay up to £10 for a charge that uses pennies worth of electricity. It would still be about a third of the cost of fuel in the Hornet to do a 140 miles.
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Some sainsbury's have charge points free for customers to use. Bargain
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How long do these things take to charge up?
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It charges in an hour, so lunch time at a stop off could afford to pay up to £10 for a charge that uses pennies worth of electricity. It would still be about a third of the cost of fuel in the Hornet to do a 140 miles.
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Hmm... that's actually totally unreasonable
I was expecting something more akin to 6 hours~
The regenerative braking is definitely a bonus to avoid wasting as much energy as possible :)
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Problem comes when deciding whether to have one with gears or not. Brembo has 6 speed box.......
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No need for gears so don't want them.
It can be charged in ten minutes if done with DC.
My next question to the manufacturer would be wht is the serviceable life of the battery and how much for a replacement?
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They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!
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Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable
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Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable
Would that be between £898.50 and £899.50 per year?
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My next question to the manufacturer would be wht is the serviceable life of the battery and how much for a replacement?
Seems like a pretty important question to me.
Also, tying in with this; let's say for argument's sake that these kinds of battery-powered vehicles become practical and economically viable to the point where they replace the ICE for general road use. What would be the costs, if any, to the environment, of disposal of potentially 100s of 1000s of such batteries as they expire?
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Probably less so that the Carbon emissions from conventional internal combustion engines
Although landfill is a concern, it is less damaging to the overall planet than carbon emissions are - not that I'm suggesting that this is what would happen to them, just food for thought
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Based only on my commute to work which costs around £899 per year is it economically viable
Would that be between £898.50 and £899.50 per year?
it would yes :D and I'm waiting for Morrissons to install a coin tray payment facility so I can pay for it al in 1p's :lol
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and I'm waiting for Morrissons to install a coin tray payment facility so I can pay for it al in 1p's :lol
:lol
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They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!
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https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y
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Just needs the charging infrastructure. I'm sure there is a sainsburys on my route into Wales, so I would stop there for a top up for 20 mins then carry on. I'm taking the plunge on an all electric car for commuting. Still keeping the family wagon for longer journeys. The BMW i3 is a rocket ship up to about 40 MPH. Worth a test drive.
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They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!
https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y (https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y)
I'm confused... I already watched the video, what exactly did I get wrong?
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They have opened an electric only motox track/park about 2 miles from my office in Preston Brook called E-SCAPE. No noise from bikes would make this ideal for suburban tracks. I see that side of ebikes taking off first. The bikes enjoying the motox park in Preston (Trax) can be heard miles away at weekends, you know, when your stuck in having to paint your door frames on a lovely day, missus in your ear.....
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Forget batteries - hydrogen fuel cell technology is the way to go for electrical power.
Honda have proved it works far better than rechargeable lithium battery technology in electric cars (a range of 250 miles between fill-ups in the hydrogen Accord, with performance at least equal to the petrol powered version).
I dont really know why this technology hasn't taken off (maybe because it's successful enough to show the oil companies that if it was properly followed up, there would be no need for their petrol and diesel fuels).
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Forget batteries - hydrogen fuel cell technology is the way to go for electrical power.
Honda have proved it works far better than rechargeable lithium battery technology in electric cars (a range of 250 miles between fill-ups in the hydrogen Accord, with performance at least equal to the petrol powered version).
I dont really know why this technology hasn't taken off (maybe because it's successful enough to show the oil companies that if it was properly followed up, there would be no need for their petrol and diesel fuels).
The silly thing is in this country if it is windy and the wind turbines are able to produce more electricity than is want they get turned off and the owners are paid any how. So you would think that at these time hydrogen would be produced. If there is not enough demand from vehicles at present it could be used in gas turbines to produce electricity when the demand is there.
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They said in the video that they don't make it with gears - seems fair enough to me. I'd like to give it a try because as they mentioned in the video, you get all that torque from the electric motor at any given RPM... that's gotta be fun!
https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y (https://youtu.be/1nN1q2ihw2Y)
I'm confused... I already watched the video, what exactly did I get wrong?
didn't get anything wrong. I continued watching other clips that was suggested on the tube and their was another bikd from the competition which had gears. Apparently gave more feeling of riding a bike.
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The trouble with hydrogen is it's production on a larger scale when derived from water (which is ultimately the most sensible source). It's doable, but requires a lot of investment still which companies just aren't prepared to do as long as oil remains at an acceptable price.
I totally agree that it is the way to go though :)