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Title: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 04:40:50 pm
Hey everyone, first time poster here. Been browsing the site and found it very inspiring so I thought I'd say hello and introduce myself and my new bike.

Just purchased myself a black 2001 fazer for £1300, went to view it last weekend and it only has 6400 miles on the clock and besides a little weathering on the front forks was basically showroom condition.

My new fzs600
My new fzs600

It's booked in for an MOT on Friday and I actually haven't passed my DAS yet which I am taking Saturday through to Monday.  Hoping I will be able to ride it away soon after.

Its obviously been sorn for a while and used very little in the last 14 years so I am wondering what advice everyone here has for checks I need to make besides anything that might show up on the MOT. To my knowledge it's more or less standard bar a belly pan. Though I am unsure.

I'm pretty new to mechanics and coming from a 125 which required very little attention besides cleaning I will be using this site a lot for guides and advice on how to care for and upgrade her. I will keep you all posted :)

Thanks.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Paulfzs on 12 April 2015, 04:41:49 pm
looking good!!


hope youre not intending to take passengers over 4 foot tall!
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 04:47:30 pm
hope youre not intending to take passengers over 4 foot tall!

Is it considered pretty uncomfortable for passengers? I have a potential passenger standing about 5'3.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: mickvp on 12 April 2015, 04:49:00 pm
hope youre not intending to take passengers over 4 foot tall!

Is it considered pretty uncomfortable for passengers? I have a potential passenger standing about 5'3.

I guess it depends on the passenger, my missus is 5'5" and didnt have nay problems on the back of my 600 when I had it :)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: rhinoeli on 12 April 2015, 05:39:21 pm
One thing came to my mind looking at the attached picture. Someone has painted the sides (at least the left side) of your cylinders black. AFAIK the side of those horizontal heat sinking grooves shouldn't be painted.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Flak on 12 April 2015, 05:46:00 pm
hope youre not intending to take passengers over 4 foot tall!

Is it considered pretty uncomfortable for passengers? I have a potential passenger standing about 5'3.

I guess it depends on the passenger, my missus is 5'5" and didnt have nay problems on the back of my 600 when I had it :)

I didn't quite get that comment either, my Mrs is 5' 8" and prefers pillion on the FZS600 to our FZS1000.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Paulfzs on 12 April 2015, 05:52:39 pm
im 6ft my partner is 5ft 9 and its insane uncomfortable!


had to change the pillion pegs to the 03 i think it was which are longer and have a different angle as well as a bit more seat padding for more height.


she isn't the slimest but nor is she overweight.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 12 April 2015, 05:57:53 pm

she isn't the slimest but nor is she overweight.

I really hope your talking about your bike there Paul, don't think your missus would like you saying that :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 07:28:07 pm
One thing came to my mind looking at the attached picture. Someone has painted the sides (at least the left side) of your cylinders black. AFAIK the side of those horizontal heat sinking grooves shouldn't be painted.

Hey I just messaged the guy and he assured me that the engine is standard and hasn't been painted. But I'm no expert on the model. Its the model with the gold clocks. Is it possible that there's a version that comes with black fins on the cylinder or am I being taken for a mug? Hah

If it's an issue I can put it right but I just like to feel like I am being sold what I am told I am being sold and not misled.

Thanks
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 12 April 2015, 08:20:06 pm
One thing came to my mind looking at the attached picture. Someone has painted the sides (at least the left side) of your cylinders black. AFAIK the side of those horizontal heat sinking grooves shouldn't be painted.

Hey I just messaged the guy and he assured me that the engine is standard and hasn't been painted. But I'm no expert on the model. Its the model with the gold clocks. Is it possible that there's a version that comes with black fins on the cylinder or am I being taken for a mug? Hah

If it's an issue I can put it right but I just like to feel like I am being sold what I am told I am being sold and not misled.

Thanks

Hiya fella, lovely looking bike and welcome to the forum......loads of help on hear about everything.

Wouldn't worry in the slightest about the engine fins not being silver....it's personal choice and have probably been painted. The rear grab rail is off a later bike, double bubble screen fitted, belly pan fitted, rear hugger etc......all to make the bike look the way the previous owner wanted it to (my 2p is they all suit the bike) . We've all made little mods here n there to our tastes (including painting engine fins) so don't even waste time thinking about the engine fins.....I love the way it looks and if you do then that's all that counts. :thumbup
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 12 April 2015, 08:32:22 pm
looking good!!


hope youre not intending to take passengers over 4 foot tall!

That only refers to the 98, 99 models because from 00 on there was extra padding on the seat and lower pillion footrests.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 12 April 2015, 08:34:19 pm

..I love the way it looks and if you do then that's all that counts. :thumbup

+1 here too
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 08:57:14 pm
Hey thanks everyone for your comments.  I was sent that photo prior to viewing the bike and I thought it looked a lot nicer in person than in the photos so I am definitely pleased.  It ran first time after sitting all winter too. I just hope the 6400 miles is a genuine figure now I know about the other mods. I'm probably just being paranoid :(

Anyway once I've passed my test and got her on the road I will be sure to take more photos and probably start a few mods of my own to make her feel mine
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 12 April 2015, 09:26:01 pm
The mileage could be right if it's not been used etc, you can check it with the mot readout.  There is good and bad with a bike not being used,  good it's not picked up wear and tear with use but bad it's not been ran so somethings could need a good bit of lubrication to get them moving sweetly again :-)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 12 April 2015, 10:08:31 pm
Nice clean bike, the engine has been painted, but not to uncommon.
Best of luck with it  :thumbup and when you get used to it you can buy  a red one which will be faster :lol :lol

Disc wear, foot rest and gear change rubbers will often give away the mileage.

You rarely see unworn oem discs on a a high mileage bike plus no wear on the rubbers means they may have been replaced whereas a little wear could mean a lowish mileage.

Downpipes will be a problem most likely when the engine was painted and the fork legs are pitted a bit, as it usually means it was not stored completely dry or not cleaned properly before being stored. :(

Spray the area around the exhaust header bolts liberally with WD40 as often as possible when cold and after washing it and it will help the removal of the downpipes when you will eventually have to replace them. It won't do any harm but will smoke like mad when you start it burning off the spray on the downpipes. :)

I did this regularly on mine and when the downpipes finally gave up the ghost at 86000 miles the nuts opened easily.


PS, as regards comfort, my wife is 5'4"ish I am 5'9"ish and we have toured Spain, France, UK and Ireland including 800 miles in 30 hours when we missed the Boat to France from Rosslare (my fault got the times wrong) and booked the boats RossLare to Pembroke and Dover to Calais, rode through the night to Dover and down to Angers in France to put our holiday back on track). A 5'3" passenger will have no problem.
Comfort is not a big issue, mind you we were both sore arsed after 800 miles.
My wife also thinks the 600 seat is slightly more comfortable than the 1000 seat.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 10:31:18 pm
Yea il just take is as it comes, it's my first big bike so I have a lot to learn but I'm very excited. I'm 26 now so it's been a long time coming, been on the 125 for far too long!

I think I will try and get the silver back on the cylinders fins by stripping the paint off or painting them, leaving the rest of the engine black as I think it looks nice that way looking at pictures.

I'd also like to get chrome downpipes and a new exhaust but I'l try riding the bike for a while as it is for a while before I get too carried away.

I've been reading around and if it hasn't been done ready I will check out a k&n filter and braided hoses. Would also like to look into a custom seat just for aesthetics but any increase in confirm will surely be welcomed.

What's the availability like for carbon fibre parts for the bike? And is it stupidly costly to have them made bespoke if they aren't available? I've seen people use a carbon fibre wrap to cover their parts but I think I prefer the idea of dropping a few extra quid and getting proper carbon fibre pieces.

Got 2 weeks to wait until I can pick her up from where she's being stored and il be passing the time reading these forums and dreaming about all the things I can do to her when she's mine  ;) hah
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 12 April 2015, 10:49:47 pm
I wouldn't go changing the brake lines to soon. The brakes on the 600 are extremely powerful and the standard lines have more feel than the braided ones.
Use the brakes with caution at first and give yourself time to get used to them, I have seen to many new owners get caught out by locking the front wheel under hard breaking.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 12 April 2015, 10:59:48 pm
I wouldn't go changing the brake lines to soon. The brakes on the 600 are extremely powerful and the standard lines have more feel than the braided ones.
Use the brakes with caution at first and give yourself time to get used to them, I have seen to many new owners get caught out by locking the front wheel under hard breaking.

Thanks for the advice unfazed, I will certainly be riding carefully to start with. Actually I'm a little nervous about jumping on a 600, so il be taking it steady! Good to know the bikes got good brakes though! I thought the braided ones were meant to be an improvement but I guess I was mistaken.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 12 April 2015, 11:38:13 pm
It's going to be the longest 2 weeks of your life  :lol :lol
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 12 April 2015, 11:46:59 pm
I wouldn't go changing the brake lines to soon. The brakes on the 600 are extremely powerful and the standard lines have more feel than the braided ones.
Use the brakes with caution at first and give yourself time to get used to them, I have seen to many new owners get caught out by locking the front wheel under hard breaking.


Thanks for the advice unfazed, I will certainly be riding carefully to start with. Actually I'm a little nervous about jumping on a 600, so il be taking it steady! Good to know the bikes got good brakes though! I thought the braided ones were meant to be an improvement but I guess I was mistaken.


No you are right that the braided hoses are an improvement. What Unfazed was saying was that the brakes, as standard, are very good (early R1 front calipers) so it would be good for you to get used to the standard brakes before upgrading.

Carbon effect front mudguard extender about £20, £100 ish for a rear hugger (best buy some carbon wrap for yours) and a decent seat about £140 exchange

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carbon-Fibre-Yamaha-FZS600-FZS-600-Fazer-03-Fender-Extender-Front-Mudguard-/271833532384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f4a8a87e0 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carbon-Fibre-Yamaha-FZS600-FZS-600-Fazer-03-Fender-Extender-Front-Mudguard-/271833532384?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3f4a8a87e0)

Seat http://www.diggerseats.co.uk/Home.html (http://www.diggerseats.co.uk/Home.html)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 13 April 2015, 06:42:52 am
I've taken passengers on the back in all shapes and sizes, never had any problems though.
The front mudguard extender is a great add on for little money, it dramatically cuts down the shite aimed at your downpipes, especially if you ride during the cold season when there's plenty of salt about.
Depending on where the bike's been stored the brakes may well need a service, the calipers can seize up if not used often or maintained, and they work much much better when functioning correctly and freely.
Over time you can learn how to clean up the brakes yourself, it can be time consuming but once done the results are very satisfying and the more times you service them the easier it will become.
These brakes are VERY good when working right, so don't go grabbing a handful in a panic.
Same again, depending where it's been stored i'd check the chain for any tight spots, and maybe give it a good scrub up and lube.
Put the bike on the centre stand and look at the lower part of the chain and see if there's any links that aren't totally horizontal.
Even if you can't quite spot them a seized chain link will give a knocking feeling on the left foot peg.
It's probably okay, but worth noting.
Other than than, good luck with the test, and take things easy to begin with.
If you can't find what you need to know using the search box, just ask.  :thumbup
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: His Dudeness on 13 April 2015, 09:16:53 am
You could sand and polish the edge of the fins with some wet and dry paper if you want them to be silver again. No need to repaint anything
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 13 April 2015, 12:27:51 pm
It's going to be the longest 2 weeks of your life  :lol :lol


Indeed it will be! I hope the 3 days I spend doing my DAS will tide my over learning to ride the bigger bike, I think the few days after I pass before I can collect the bike are going to be the worst.

No you are right that the braided hoses are an improvement.

Thanks for clarifying! I will keep it in mind then. I wont be making any mods for a few weeks or more until I am used to the bike as it is anyway (plus I need to allow my funds to recover, this month has been an expensive one!)

Thanks to everyone else for your comments and replies to my questions. I look forward to learning more about my bike and contributing to the community in my own way.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 13 April 2015, 08:13:35 pm
Hey guys, just out of curiosity. I saw there was a differences by year thread showing that the 2001 model had a "Carbon-effect clock surround"
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[/size][size=78%]http://foc-u.co.uk/?topic=34.0 (http://foc-u.co.uk/?topic=34.0)[/size]


The supposed 2001 model I am buying has gold clocks. Do you think this means the clocks have been replaced or was there a 2001 model with gold clocks?


I am just trying to work out the history of the bike and how many miles its possibly done.


Thanks
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 13 April 2015, 08:19:05 pm
Actual gold clocks or is it a surround to make it look gold? Unless you physically have the bike in front of you, it is very hard to determine what other owners have done to it, so your just guessing and putting 2 + 2 will equal 5 in that case :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 13 April 2015, 09:06:11 pm
Actual gold clocks or is it a surround to make it look gold? Unless you physically have the bike in front of you, it is very hard to determine what other owners have done to it, so your just guessing and putting 2 + 2 will equal 5 in that case :rollin


Hey, yea I'm just jumping the gun because the bike is in storage 200 miles away until I pass my test and collect it. Its a gold surround on the right clock on the the dash like this:
(http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/maVKngJevbduyF5TRKZ4Ryw.jpg)

Thanks
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 13 April 2015, 09:09:46 pm
All the 98 to 01 model had a gold surround the 02-03 have a carbon surround

If the clocks have 2 buttons it is 00-01. Pressing the larger of the 2 button scrolls through the mileage, trip meters and the clock, small button resets the trip or adjusts the clock

If they have 1 button it is 98-99

The 02-03 clocks have 2 buttons also but have the clock in the rev counter and will not fit the early 98 to 01 models easily
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 13 April 2015, 09:17:05 pm
My bad, I guess I didnt look closely enough at the pic above :D this is a pic of my bikes clock and a video too.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=547910598684548&pnref=story (https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=547910598684548&pnref=story)

(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10303463_547910628684545_7318403009610712233_n.jpg?oh=79b23c35c4f6d232653834df4295c2c2&oe=55DC1E96)

I don't know why I am worrying about it, I have seen the bike and I know its in good condition. I should consider myself lucky I have nothing better to worry about.


Thanks.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 13 April 2015, 11:32:38 pm
So nothing to worry about, clocks seem fine.
I just have a plain gold surround, no tuning forks on mine, but I don't mind that, just another thing to take my eye away when looking at the clock area,  I'm actually thinking of taking off or covering the gold on my clocks with black, (not a fan of carbon or carbon look) as it's a fair distraction in my view, don't know what others think though.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 13 April 2015, 11:37:53 pm

I don't know why I am worrying about it, I have seen the bike and I know its in good condition. I should consider myself lucky I have nothing better to worry about.


Mate, you wil soon be the owner of a cracking bike.......the best first big bike ever produced - the mighty Fazer FZS600, the perfect all rounder!


So stop being a worrier and become a warrior you big tart  :lol :lol
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 14 April 2015, 12:09:15 am

So stop being a worrier and become a warrior you big tart  :lol :lol

+1
:rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 14 April 2015, 12:21:25 am

I don't know why I am worrying about it, I have seen the bike and I know its in good condition. I should consider myself lucky I have nothing better to worry about.


Mate, you wil soon be the owner of a cracking bike.......the best first big bike ever produced - the mighty Fazer FZS600, the perfect all rounder!


So stop being a worrier and become a warrior you big tart  :lol :lol

Haha, thanks. Yea I am overwhelmingly excited. Really it will just be nice to go out on longer trips with a bit more leg room than my 125 provides  :lol

I was looking at newer bikes with a higher budget because I like the sparkly new feel and was pleased when I found the fazer with such low miles at a good price.

Il be reading the forums getting gradually more excited for the next week or two until I can finally ride her home.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Andy FZS on 14 April 2015, 08:01:38 am
I'm glad you're excited about getting a new bike but just go careful until you get familiar with it.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 14 April 2015, 11:04:36 am
I'm glad you're excited about getting a new bike but just go careful until you get familiar with it.

Good advice, it can still catch you out if you're not paying full attention.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 14 April 2015, 11:41:52 am
I'm glad you're excited about getting a new bike but just go careful until you get familiar with it.


[size=78%]Good advice, it can still catch you out if you're not paying full attention.[/size]


Thanks for the advice guys, don't worry I will be careful! I will take her steady. I want to say I am pretty sensible on the road...


I'm pretty confident on the 125 but its a lot smaller and a lot lighter. I am actually pretty nervous anticipating the difference between what I am used to and a 600cc bike.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 14 April 2015, 12:19:39 pm
I am actually pretty nervous anticipating..............

 :groan

Right then fella, enough's enough. Name and address please so me & Sinto can pop round and give you an almighty slap  :lol

You'll be fine, like anything new - treat it with confidence and respect = no problem. :thumbup

Worrier or warrior  :pokefun
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 14 April 2015, 01:59:36 pm
I am actually pretty nervous anticipating..............

 :groan

Right then fella, enough's enough. Name and address please so me & Sinto can pop round and give you an almighty slap  :lol

You'll be fine, like anything new - treat it with confidence and respect = no problem. :thumbup

Worrier or warrior  :pokefun


WOAH :P I was just trying to reassure that I was going to be sensible and no kill myself on my first big bike.


I'l save that for when my dad retires and leaves me his Fireblade. ;)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 14 April 2015, 06:54:29 pm
I bought mine when I was 19 and had it restricted for a year. Was awesome especially coming from a restricted GS500. I've done loads to mine, looks very different and has grown and upgraded with me along with my riding I would like to think. I would strongly recommend a bike safe course if it's your first big bike, they're pretty cheap and just keeps you that bit more aware of the dangers of the road and what having a powerful bike can mean. Police riders were really helpful and totally sound as well which has made me respect them a lot more.


Mostly though you will be having an awesome time I'm sure and they are truly excellent bikes. I must admit I'm always lusting after all kinds of weird stuff, currently my urge is a TL1000r but every time I go out I just think "I chose wisely, excellent bike". I did try and sell it once and am quite glad I was unsuccessful, for my budget I don't think I could have a better all round machine. I have a lot of good memories on this bike; first bike I ground pegs with, first bike I toured on (not been abroad yet but maybe one day), first bike I've serviced and did fairly substantial mechanics on, first bike I did 100 (kph  ;) ) on however my favourite memory is the day I whacked out the restrictors and gave it its first handful on a big straight in second. Literally was a WOWZAAAAA moment and still is now, I barely get the chance so it still makes me smile and never gets old. My Dad's SV headlight just slowly fading in my mirror and imagining the quiet "bollocks" mumbled in his helmet still makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 14 April 2015, 07:03:19 pm

 :groan

Right then fella, enough's enough. Name and address please so me & Sinto can pop round and give you an almighty slap  :lol


Worrier or warrior  :pokefun

Oh this brings back memories of jumping from a 90cc upto my big 500! No fear though, jumped on it, took it round the block to get used to the size, then that was me, off grinning like a chesser cat, was out on it all day and no phones back in them days to say where I was or how I was, what a bollocking I got when I got home much later that day lol :rollin
But that said, you say your dad's got a fireblade?   He's gonna be embarrassed if you don't get out there and show him.you can do it lol
Only advise I'll give you is... Take it easy at first, might be bigger and heavier than what your used to but you'll be surprised how quickly you get used to it, 600 fazers aren't like other 600's, I know as I've had a few, it's very easy to ride and will put a grin on your face as it's very flickable, but also very easy to cruise, a bit like what an escort/focus is in the car world.
After thought!!
GET OUT AND ENJOY IT :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 14 April 2015, 07:21:49 pm
Go wash out your mouth with salt and get on you knees and pray for forgiveness, comparing the beloved Fazer 600 to an Escort or Focus :eek :eek :eek
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 14 April 2015, 07:34:21 pm
Go wash out your mouth with salt and get on you knees and pray for forgiveness, comparing the beloved Fazer 600 to an Escort or Focus :eek :eek :eek
Lol
nope, it's a bike that's like them in the car world,
it's laughed at from people that don't have them,
it also just fits in to normal day to day use but can be modified, tuned and still look like 'normal' to the naked eye.
And yes I've had escorts (not the ones you've had lol) and focuses so I stand by my comments :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 14 April 2015, 08:24:24 pm
Go wash out your mouth with salt and get on you knees and pray for forgiveness, comparing the beloved Fazer 600 to an Escort or Focus :eek :eek :eek


 :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 14 April 2015, 08:29:00 pm
I bought mine when I was 19 and had it restricted for a year. Was awesome especially coming from a restricted GS500. I've done loads to mine, looks very different and has grown and upgraded with me along with my riding I would like to think. I would strongly recommend a bike safe course if it's your first big bike, they're pretty cheap and just keeps you that bit more aware of the dangers of the road and what having a powerful bike can mean. Police riders were really helpful and totally sound as well which has made me respect them a lot more.


Mostly though you will be having an awesome time I'm sure and they are truly excellent bikes. I must admit I'm always lusting after all kinds of weird stuff, currently my urge is a TL1000r but every time I go out I just think "I chose wisely, excellent bike". I did try and sell it once and am quite glad I was unsuccessful, for my budget I don't think I could have a better all round machine. I have a lot of good memories on this bike; first bike I ground pegs with, first bike I toured on (not been abroad yet but maybe one day), first bike I've serviced and did fairly substantial mechanics on, first bike I did 100 (kph  ;) ) on however my favourite memory is the day I whacked out the restrictors and gave it its first handful on a big straight in second. Literally was a WOWZAAAAA moment and still is now, I barely get the chance so it still makes me smile and never gets old. My Dad's SV headlight just slowly fading in my mirror and imagining the quiet "bollocks" mumbled in his helmet still makes me chuckle.


Do a lot of research about good/bad points if you ever feel like scratching that itch with a TL1000R.
For years I always wanted the TL1000S but it just never happened, but after reading about them both recently they can be hard work.
The R was meant to be the ironed out version of the manic S, but it still had issues.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 14 April 2015, 10:06:21 pm
Don't want to hijack his thread darrsi, but yeah I've read about some of their "quirks". I have always loved the SRAD suzuki sport bike shape and never heard of the TL until I saw one a few weeks ago, in a multi storey. Got talking to the guy and he started it up, full yoshi exhaust.... I messed myself. Big time. It's just a dream anyway, something to ponder along with all my other ponderings if I ever get the job I want. I'll probably never get rid of the FZS though if possible.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 14 April 2015, 10:24:20 pm
Don't worry too much about hijacking the thread, I think I've said about all there is to say until I get my fzs. It fills me with confidence that so many people here have such good things to say about the bike. I was originally going to go for a Honda hornet but I went for the fzs in the end of course though I do love the look of the hornet 600.

I must admit I'm not a big fan of suzuki,  though I haven't looked at them much. A lot of friends recommended I look at the sv650 but it didn't really float my boat.

Trying not to make too much of a tw*t of myself after already doing so throughout this thread. I only went and lost my 125 keys today... So I've been stressing all day looking for them and they are nowhere to be seen. I hope they crop up tomorrow and my bike doesn't go mysteriously missing in the meantime. Not really sure what my options are if I don't find them as the key I lost was my only key (spare key was left with my parents for safe keeping but they upon phoning them today they claim they lost it during a house move... Fantastic).

So much for saying I have nothing better to worry about.  :eek
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 14 April 2015, 11:21:05 pm
"upon phoning them today they claim they lost it during a house move... Fantastic"
Hope they told you where they've moved to :rollin
So much for saying I have nothing better to worry about.  :eek
What you got to worry about?
Get out on your new bike and leave your worries behind you. Deal with other stuff another time lol
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 14 April 2015, 11:54:14 pm

Hope they told you where they've moved to :rollin

Yea I know where they are don't worry ;) just not the key!

I'm going to look a little funny getting a taxi to my DAS in full motorcycle gear if I can't find my keys.

I have a buyer lined up for the 125 as well but won't be much good to them without the keys either... Heh.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 15 April 2015, 12:48:49 am
"upon phoning them today they claim they lost it during a house move... Fantastic"
Hope they told you where they've moved to :rollin
So much for saying I have nothing better to worry about.  :eek
What you got to worry about?
Get out on your new bike and leave your worries behind you. Deal with other stuff another time lol

 :groan
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 15 April 2015, 06:45:27 am
Don't want to hijack his thread darrsi, but yeah I've read about some of their "quirks". I have always loved the SRAD suzuki sport bike shape and never heard of the TL until I saw one a few weeks ago, in a multi storey. Got talking to the guy and he started it up, full yoshi exhaust.... I messed myself. Big time. It's just a dream anyway, something to ponder along with all my other ponderings if I ever get the job I want. I'll probably never get rid of the FZS though if possible.


I remember around the same time these were popular you also had the Honda VTR1000 Firestorm as well.
Was following one down the Kings Road in Chelsea years ago, and i dunno what after market exhaust he had on but it was just the best sound ever.  :b
But again, things like the 16 litre fuel tank can put me right off, that's just ridiculous.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 15 April 2015, 06:00:55 pm
Yeah Firestorm's are awesome too but I think the TL in the R form looks so nice which is big praise from someone not too keen on sports bikes. Like you say though, tiny fuel tanks and thirsty engines are a let down. I don't often fill my Fazers tank, usually spend about a tenner but its nice to know when I do I can get 200 miles. My best record ever was 225 2 up in Wales although that was pushing it! I have the 18L tank I think, but yeah spending however much on 17L of fuel to do about 110 miles would get annoying especially when you're stuck behind a tractor or awful driver on solid double white lines and have to sit there at 25mph which seems like about every single ride these days.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 15 April 2015, 06:41:30 pm
Yeah Firestorm's are awesome too but I think the TL in the R form looks so nice which is big praise from someone not too keen on sports bikes. Like you say though, tiny fuel tanks and thirsty engines are a let down. I don't often fill my Fazers tank, usually spend about a tenner but its nice to know when I do I can get 200 miles. My best record ever was 225 2 up in Wales although that was pushing it! I have the 18L tank I think, but yeah spending however much on 17L of fuel to do about 110 miles would get annoying especially when you're stuck behind a tractor or awful driver on solid double white lines and have to sit there at 25mph which seems like about every single ride these days.


Strangely enough, about 2 hours after writing my post this morning I was outside my work and a Firestorm slowly went past in front of me!


You have a 20 litre tank.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 18 April 2015, 09:59:37 pm
Sooo, a short update. 125 keys are sorted. I got the key code from the dealer and got 2 new keys cut. Ironically found my key 15 minutes after getting home from collecting the new keys so now I have 3... No harm though as it can't hurt to have spares.

Did my first day of my DAS today. 7 hours on a Honda cbf600 and I am now exhausted. Riding that bike was a genuine pleasure and I am now even more excited to pass and get my fzs, it was even more enjoyable than I ever imagined.

Riding my 125 home on the 35min journey after experiencing the 600 was less fun though... It felt like a toy and really put into perspective just how small it is.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 18 April 2015, 10:08:45 pm
Well done you for passing :-)
Now the fun begins lol
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Tubz1983 on 19 April 2015, 08:25:44 am
If it were me and it had been sitting sorn for a while, id change oil oil filter air filter sparks, service brakes, check the chain. possibly drain the fuel tank.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 19 April 2015, 01:07:59 pm
Sooo, a short update. 125 keys are sorted. I got the key code from the dealer and got 2 new keys cut. Ironically found my key 15 minutes after getting home from collecting the new keys so now I have 3... No harm though as it can't hurt to have spares.

Did my first day of my DAS today. 7 hours on a Honda cbf600 and I am now exhausted. Riding that bike was a genuine pleasure and I am now even more excited to pass and get my fzs, it was even more enjoyable than I ever imagined.

Riding my 125 home on the 35min journey after experiencing the 600 was less fun though... It felt like a toy and really put into perspective just how small it is.

ONLY A WEEK TO GO  :)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: His Dudeness on 19 April 2015, 03:24:51 pm
If it were me and it had been sitting sorn for a while, id change oil oil filter air filter sparks, service brakes, check the chain. possibly drain the fuel tank.

I agree ;) I always give a new set of wheels a full going over when I get my hands on it. You know for sure where you stand with it then and you know it's running as well as it possibly can. To add to your list I'd grease all the bearings and linkages and oil cables.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 19 April 2015, 05:43:05 pm
If it were me and it had been sitting sorn for a while, id change oil oil filter air filter sparks, service brakes, check the chain. possibly drain the fuel tank.

She had hed MOT on Friday, needs the fork seals replaced. Booked her in for a service a week tomorrow. £300 pays for a full service including oil change etc and new fork seals. Should be pretty safe to ride after all that and then I will look at any future work I can do myself.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Frosties on 19 April 2015, 10:23:09 pm
Well done you for passing :-)
Now the fun begins lol

As above fella, many congrats on passing. :woot

This is going to be one long week but also good advice to give it a going over before you take it out. One day won't hurt after it gives you the satisfaction you've checked/had it all checked. Have fun and keep us posted  :thumbup
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: the voices on 24 April 2015, 05:30:29 pm
no mods for six months, spend the dosh on fuel and good protective gear and enjoy it.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 24 April 2015, 10:18:44 pm
So kepha, how's the bike?
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 24 April 2015, 10:52:20 pm
So kepha, how's the bike?

I passed mod1 and mod2 first time,  L plates have come off the 125, fazer is registered as mine, insured and taxed. Unfortunately though she's at my dad's waiting to go in for a service tomorrow and my dad lives 90 miles away so I haven't ridden her yet. Will be picking her up either Monday or Wednesday depending on how long the service takes and the weather. After experiencing riding a 600 on my tests the wait is almost unbearable but I'm going to take her over the Isle of Wight next weekend for a little trip to get used to her :)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 24 April 2015, 10:55:51 pm
no mods for six months, spend the dosh on fuel and good protective gear and enjoy it.

Oh and dont worry the first thing I did was buy protective gear, I have furygan boots, gloves, trousers and jacket. Knox windbreakers and a good quality lid.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 25 April 2015, 08:03:03 am
Smart move :-)
You'll be looking forward to getting used to it.
I wish you well.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 26 April 2015, 12:16:05 pm
Glad I booked the bike for a service now. Riding her the 5 miles to the garage resulted in the forks leaking oil all over the front disc.

Should get her back on Monday :)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 26 April 2015, 10:28:35 pm
Make sure they check the fork leg fully as it may have a bit of pitting or a stone chip.
It might also be rust in the circlips or rust in the seal housing which causes them to deform, if there is rust in the seal housings change both seals.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: jimbojim on 26 April 2015, 11:15:00 pm
don't forget RED is best lol
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 29 April 2015, 01:39:05 pm
He did the right thing, start on a slow one first and then buy a red one :rollin
What's the news, has it been sorted
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 29 April 2015, 10:23:15 pm
He did the right thing, start on a slow one first and then buy a red one :rollin
What's the news, has it been sorted

Service was delayed, picked up he bike today. Dealer threw in £100 worth of gear for free to apologise for the delay so I was happy overall but by time I got her home my front disc was again covered in grease. Thinking they hadnt cleaned the disc well I took some brake cleaner to the discs and went for another ride but they are again covered in grease with no obvious place where its coming from so tomorrow will he spent working that out.

Happy with my purchase. Not happy with the current situation with the brakes
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 29 April 2015, 10:41:02 pm
Is it the left disc?
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 29 April 2015, 10:42:37 pm

Happy with my purchase. Not happy with the current situation with the brakes

So, the guy who was doing your fork repair, hasn't actually fixed it?
Get onto him ASAP, regardless of the £100 sweetener he gave you, he hasn't done the job that you gave it to him to do, and he's caused you more grief.

I would question if he actually done anything with them or just got his young lad in workshop to clean over the front of your bike with a cloth as he'd forgot about you and could easily afford the £100 sweetener as it didn't cost him.anything in the first place!
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 29 April 2015, 10:49:46 pm
Is it the left disc?

Yep just the left disc. The fork seals have definitly been replaced. Oil has definitely been replaced. Generally I have been happy with the work from this garage in the past.

I will be going in tomorrow morning though because I am pissed about it. I have a 90mile trip tomorrow and I'm supposed to be going to the isle of wight on Friday. I can't do either with shoddy brakes.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 29 April 2015, 11:00:24 pm
Generally I have been happy with the work from this garage in the past.
Well, that's fair enough, thought it was just a normal garage that you took it to, not one that you'd been to before, or maybe you said that in an earlier post and I didn't pick up on it.

Is it the left disc?

What's on your mind that you ask if it was just the left disc?
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: unfazed on 29 April 2015, 11:46:32 pm
They most likely over greased the housing for the speedo sensor/rotor and since it does not have a seal the extra grease is squeezed out and the spinning puts it on the disc. It is a bit careless of the mechanic, but at least you know they have greased it

Use a cloth to clean up the grease around the sensor/rotor and the inner part of the disc web. It is a nuisance, but should be ok after a sh
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 30 April 2015, 08:52:28 pm
So after faffing around this morning I couldn't find the cause of the oil so I took the font brake pads out and it turned out they were shot and were still soaked with oil which was rubbing back onto the brakes. Bought a new pair of pads and fitted them and now she brakes perfectly and no more oil on the disc. Covered 150 miles today, wow am I happy, simply everything about her is a pleasure compared to my old bike.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 30 April 2015, 09:06:22 pm
Also picked this up at what I feel was a reasonable price so will be fitting it tomorrow when the rack arrives.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 01 May 2015, 08:18:40 pm
So the oil leak was from your brake pistons?
I hope you checked and topped up the reservoir on the right handlebar?
Glad you got it sussed and sorted

Nice topbox, are the wee side panels (that look clear in the pic) good enough for brake or running lights? That would look awesome :-)
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 02 May 2015, 10:13:29 am
So the oil leak was from your brake pistons?
I hope you checked and topped up the reservoir on the right handlebar?
Glad you got it sussed and sorted

Nice topbox, are the wee side panels (that look clear in the pic) good enough for brake or running lights? That would look awesome :-)

All fluids on the bike have been replaced. No worries there!

The top box is compatible with brake lights yea, might look into it in the future. Would look awesome but I'm not sure how it will wire up as I want the top box to be easily put on and taken off.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2015, 11:25:40 am
I s'pose really old oil would disintergrate and thin then possibly weep past seals, but keep an eye on them for further leakage, don't find out the hard way.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 02 May 2015, 01:42:33 pm
All fluids on the bike have been replaced. No worries there!
Good man
The top box is compatible with brake lights yea, might look into it in the future. Would look awesome but I'm not sure how it will wire up as I want the top box to be easily put on and taken off.
Relatively easy if you buy the wiring kit, it's plug and play really with a plug you disconnect when taking your box off.
Or the other route is do it yourself, buy led's to fit, connect to a plug (plenty of waterproof ones on fleebay) and that's it. Only difference between the two versions is price :rollin
Here's my extra brake light I put on under my topbox bracket as I sometimes take my box off and this way it's always on the bike regardless of topbox being on or off and no wires to disconnect either, but I didn't have space to put led's without cutting the box somehow.
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: Kepha on 04 May 2015, 08:36:20 pm
received 10153213661520926
received 10153213661520926

So after much trial and error the top box is fitted. The instructions supplied by givi were crap!
Title: Re: First post, first big bike, 01 FZS600
Post by: sinto on 04 May 2015, 09:12:38 pm
So after much trial and error the top box is fitted. The instructions supplied by givi were crap!
Like most instructions, put them in the recycle bin and make up your own! :rollin