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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: stevierst on 05 April 2015, 09:05:44 pm
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I put an ignition advancer on my R1 a while back, and it made quite a difference with the lower and mid range torque.
I've also got a gen 1 for work/touring, and its got the full Monty Ivans kit on it. I'm sure I read somewhere that you can't put the I/A on if your ivanised.
Has anyone out there done it, and was it worth doing?
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Sure you can do it. Works nicely, too. :)
Ivan, though, reckons that it increases vibes and gives no power increase at peak rpm. However, the benefits are felt much lower down the rev range, which is why so many have done it despite his reservations.
I followed this route to save a few bob on the job: http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/eskortsadvancermod.shtml (http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/eskortsadvancermod.shtml)
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Thanks for the link and info Falcon. I'll get my vernier and files out.
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Had one on mine for years with a Ivans kit, pipercross air filter and blue flame end can. Does give much more midrange and seems to start much easier with it on.
And for the small cost I would just get one from eBay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-R1-FAZER-1000-CARB-MODELS-4-DEGREE-IGNITION-ADVANCER-ROTOR-YELLOW-ZINC-/161636305455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a2464a2f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-R1-FAZER-1000-CARB-MODELS-4-DEGREE-IGNITION-ADVANCER-ROTOR-YELLOW-ZINC-/161636305455?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a2464a2f)
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I did mine years ago (eskorts mod) with an Ivans carb kit and is great at the bottom end.
Also agree it starts so much better as well.
I ordered a second trigger wheel just in case I wanted to go back to standard but never did. :D
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Have a look here for more discussion - http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,14249.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,14249.0.html)
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I've done the eskort mod this afternoon. Took me about 1/2 hour.
I'll see how it rides tomorrow morning on the way to work.8)
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I've done the eskort mod this afternoon. Took me about 1/2 hour.
I'll see how it rides tomorrow morning on the way to work. 8)
Hey Steve, it's now tomorrow morning, how was the ride. Any better?
Cheers, Mickey
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It was good! Felt a little more torque in the lower/mid range. Not a huge ammount, but enough to make it worthwhile for Bugger all cost 8)
Let's see how it affects the fuel useage.
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I fitted one over the winter but hadn't had a chance to try it until yesterday, I did just over 200 miles up around Tydrum, Inverary then back down Loch Lomond side. The roll on acceleration is improved, come up behind a car, wait for a gap to overtake then woosh! Quite a bit crisper than before and i remember thinking how smooth the engine is on a cruising throttle.
Jim.
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Did you just follow the instructions in the link and do you have any other tips or suggestions. Just to with the advancer for as I get all the suggestions I need from my wife on every other subject
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I got an advancer off ebay which for 14 pounds inc delivery has been the best value mod I've done on my gen 1 02 model fzs1000. I've noticed easier starting and it seems to have made an improvement in low/med range tractability - well worth the small amount of money! I'd recommend it.
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The measurements are quite tiny and precise, so unless you have a vernier caliper or suchlike then I'd be very careful. It's only 0.6mm of material to be removed, but it has to be right!
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just bought one, will let you know when it comes :)
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Had a better ride on the way home as I wasn't carrying 1/2 ton of kit.
Erm, it's quite a bit better in the mid range tbh. It's now not just ballistic, but absolutely interstellar ballistic! Awesome mod!
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hi all must agree a good mod bought mine off ebay the slot needed scraping a bit to fit but was easy make sure someones with you when you do the mod.
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hi all must agree a good mod bought mine off ebay the slot needed scraping a bit to fit but was easy make sure someones with you when you do the mod.
Don't wanna appear dumb (!) but why do you need an extra pair of hands?
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to take the bolt off which is holding the advancer you need to put the bike in top gear and have someone holding the brakes on as the bolt is tight and will move the inner chain and the bike which also goes for the same when putting the new one on,hope this helps.
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one of th 4 top mods along with ivans, R1 front end and R6 rear shock
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just bought one, will let you know when it comes :)
yes well worth £14 gives it just that bit more :)
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to take the bolt off which is holding the advancer you need to put the bike in top gear and have someone holding the brakes on as the bolt is tight and will move the inner chain and the bike which also goes for the same when putting the new one on,hope this helps.
It is possible to do it solo - I did mine by myself a while back. As you say into top gear. I put the bike on the side stand and sat on it, put a breaker bar on the nut and then stood on the rear brake as I lifted the breaker bar up towards me. Its awkward but once the bolt is moving it comes off no bother :)
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I guess something through the back wheel against the swingarm would work instead of the back brake and being in gear?
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It is possible to do it solo - I did mine by myself a while back. As you say into top gear. I put the bike on the side stand and sat on it, put a breaker bar on the nut and then stood on the rear brake as I lifted the breaker bar up towards me. Its awkward but once the bolt is moving it comes off no bother :)
Yep, I did mine exactly the same way, it's easily do-able if your careful.
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Will I need a new gasket. I'm guessing it's just to keep water etc out
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Will I need a new gasket. I'm guessing it's just to keep water etc out
I managed to change mine and re-use the old one, but they can tear when you remove them. if it does, then your better changing it (so maybe best to order one to be on the safe side?)
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I might have a bit of gasket paper kicking around if it not to delicate a shape. I might have to resist using a ball pein hammer though lol.
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My gasket ripped when I was changing mine but I just carefully scraped the old gasket off both surfaces & then re assembled with some gasket sealant, did the job fine & cheaper & easier than getting hold of an oem gasket.
Ps well worth doing the mod !
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Might have a look tomorrow then.
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Anyone bought a new gasket and if from where, I believe the manual states 60Nm to tighten the pickup bolt.
Cheers
Andy
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Didn't bother with a new gasket. A bit of silicone sealant does the trick, as it physically doesn't hold any oil in the casing.
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For the tiny cost (£14 off fleabay delivered) I bought one and fitted it yesterday. I'd just fitted a new gasket so it came away perfectly and I managed to get the bolt off just with the bike in gear and standing on the back brake whilst using a breaker bar. 10min swap over max. Torqueing it back up wasn't as easy but by using the same technique to tighten the bolt whilst holding the brake on eventually the wrench clicked (It is 60nm or 44ft/lb)
I wasn't expecting much of an improvement as I've never had an issue starting my bike but to be honest it fair leapt off the starter and ticked over very smoothly so........so far so good
F9 :)
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I think this will be my next mod. I've noticed on my last ride that unless i blip the throttle a bit before pulling away the bike has a slow pick up. It's only a little bit slow but it's at the worst time, when I've got to the front of a queue and the lights change. I know about it so would normally blip it a bit but once in a while i forget to.
Mickey
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OK guys....just ordered one....now how likely am I to need a gasket?
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I struggled to find a gasket easily was probably going to have to be a genuine yamaha one, so I just cleaned up both faces and put a thin coat of gasket paste on. So far no dramas all seems good.
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Just done mine, dead easy really. I replaced my gasket.