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Title: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 08:58:37 pm
Hi guys, new to foc world but I filled her up and cost me about £15 for premier fuel, it had been lying for a while so thought I'd treat it and hopefully flush out the old rubbish too.
But here's the dilema, she's down to quarter of a tank and I've only done 58 miles!
Something is deffinetly wrong, just don't know where to start looking.
I've looked in tank...and probably quite low!
No leaks, checked Everytime I've went near the bike, nothing on the floor saying that.
Help point me in right direction guys, this'll cost a fortune to run at this rate!
Thanks, Colin
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Jules-C on 20 March 2015, 09:06:02 pm
I get a minimum of 150 from brimmed tank to light coming on so something well up with yours.

Engine performance ok? 
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 09:15:14 pm
I get a minimum of 150 from brimmed tank to light coming on so something well up with yours.

Engine performance ok?
Yes, goes great, runs well, smooth, and idles no problem, I've been around bikes for years, just got back into it after a few years off, but this is throwing me :-(
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: HarryHornby on 20 March 2015, 09:34:46 pm
I get about 170 before the light comes on
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 20 March 2015, 09:40:57 pm
A good guide is 10 miles per litre on any of these bikes "on average" so you should expect 180+/- for your 18 litre tank, depending on how it's ridden, traffic, blatting it, etc.
My guess is your fuel gauge is giving a wrong reading if all seems okay.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: mobile mouse on 20 March 2015, 09:49:52 pm
I get 230 out of a foxeye tank, after putting in 20.29ltrs costing £22.50
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 09:55:03 pm
A good guide is 20 miles per litre on any of these bikes "on average" so you should expect 180+/- for your 28 litre tank, depending on how it's ridden, traffic, blatting it, etc.
My huess is your fuel gauge is giving a wrong reading if all seems okay.
I did read about the 170/180 range, but my concern is that it's showing about a quarter of a tank and looking in the tank, that seems to be what's left, my biggest concern though is, I filled it to top, and I've only done near on 60 miles, by my reckoning, I'll only get about another 80 miles or so, it well might be ok, was just checking to see if this was about right, I'll keep going and see what happen.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Jules-C on 20 March 2015, 10:04:17 pm
Due to the tank shape it can be deceptive how much fuel is left looking through filler cap and the gauge isn't accurate.  When my tank is half full even slight hills can get it to go between quarter full and three quartets full.

Try filling it up again and see if it takes 5 litres or 15 litres. 

How full did you fill it? Below bottom of filler cap tube, to bottom of filler cap tube or spend an extra 5 minutes squeezing another 2 litres in after fuel reached bottom of tube?
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: noggythenog on 20 March 2015, 10:09:12 pm
Even if the gauge was accurate then it isn't exactly bad to pay £3.50 to travel 60 miles in 2015 surely is it.


Suffice to say you'll get 200 miles...and quite a bit more  if you're brave enough to believe it and that's roughly 20 quid per tank which is pretty good really.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 10:24:31 pm
Due to the tank shape it can be deceptive how much fuel is left looking through filler cap and the gauge isn't accurate.  When my tank is half full even slight hills can get it to go between quarter full and three quartets full.

Try filling it up again and see if it takes 5 litres or 15 litres. 

How full did you fill it? Below bottom of filler cap tube, to bottom of filler cap tube or spend an extra 5 minutes squeezing another 2 litres in after fuel reached bottom of tube?
I filled it up to the neck,
I guess the proof will be when the light comes on and reading the forum I'll get about 30 to 40 miles once that's went on, but I never run my bike down low, so think I'll need to judge what I get from filling to when light goes on and figure out if that's normal.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 10:29:35 pm
Even if the gauge was accurate then it isn't exactly bad to pay £3.50 to travel 60 miles in 2015 surely is it.


Suffice to say you'll get 200 miles...and quite a bit more  if you're brave enough to believe it and that's roughly 20 quid per tank which is pretty good really.
I agree it's quite cheap but to be honest, I just wanted to check if this was the norm as  my gauge shows just over quarter of a tank but only done about 60 miles so far. I don't know the bike, this is my first tank of fuel, so was just checking.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 20 March 2015, 10:46:13 pm
The gauges are a bit odd, after filling up, mine won't budge from showing full for quite a few miles.
As long as the bike doesn't stink of excess fuel or is chucking out smoke then I doubt you have too much to worry about.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 10:59:49 pm
The gauges are a bit odd, after filling up, mine won't budge from showing full for quite a few miles.
As long as the bike doesn't stink of excess fuel or is chucking out smoke then I doubt you have too much to worry about.
So reading that darrsi, I should just wait and see? The bike runs great, smooth, no fuel smells, was just a bit concerned on the gauge reading, but I'll certainly keep a wee eye on it.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: midden on 20 March 2015, 11:12:13 pm

But here's the dilema, she's down to quarter of a tank and I've only done 58 miles!

That's not too bad, you should go for a rideout with Dazza  :rollin
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 20 March 2015, 11:37:11 pm
The gauges are a bit odd, after filling up, mine won't budge from showing full for quite a few miles.
As long as the bike doesn't stink of excess fuel or is chucking out smoke then I doubt you have too much to worry about.
So reading that darrsi, I should just wait and see? The bike runs great, smooth, no fuel smells, was just a bit concerned on the gauge reading, but I'll certainly keep a wee eye on it.
 

As you say, it's your first tank of fuel, give it time to get to know your bike.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 20 March 2015, 11:45:37 pm
Yeah, I might be worried about nothing and it'll sort itself out, that said, I've opened her up a wee bit as she'd been lying for a while and wanted to clear it out a bit, so maybe 2nd tank will be better.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 21 March 2015, 12:09:17 am
No doubt I'll get shouted down, as it's been discussed before, but PERSONALLY I find 97ron fuel to be the best all rounder.
Don't like 95 at all, and 99 is good for a blast but not for general riding.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: HarryHornby on 21 March 2015, 06:55:24 am
 :lurk
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 21 March 2015, 08:32:12 am
:lurk


That went quite well.  :lol
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Punkstig on 21 March 2015, 09:30:34 am
Don't trust the gauge, just keep an eye out for the warning light, at the least you'll get another 30 miles!
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Buzz on 21 March 2015, 10:54:47 am
I get 230 out of a foxeye tank, after putting in 20.29ltrs costing £22.50
Almost identical to me, are you riding my bike when I'm not on it?
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: stevie-g1968 on 21 March 2015, 10:56:39 am
Just looked at  mine and it shows 184 miles and it's sat just under the 1/4 mark.....
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Sannox on 21 March 2015, 01:18:01 pm
250 from my 2002 foxeye being careful before the light comes on, less if I'm tanking it :-)
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: ChristoT on 21 March 2015, 01:19:24 pm
If you're proper caning it, you can see the fuel gauge moving towards empty at an alarming rate as you ride!  :eek :eek
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Punkstig on 21 March 2015, 01:56:10 pm
And therein lies your problem Christo, you should be looking up the road mate!
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Frosties on 21 March 2015, 03:03:23 pm
And therein lies your problem Christo, you should be looking up the road mate!


Quality  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 21 March 2015, 03:48:00 pm
I suppose it all depends what 'load' your carrying, two up, luggage, and of course the weight of each indivitual rider and as Christo says, if your caning it!
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 21 March 2015, 04:31:38 pm
I suppose it all depends what 'load' your carrying, two up, luggage, and of course the weight of each indivitual rider and as Christo says, if your caning it!


I've never bothered seeing what mileage i get, i'm in traffic all the time so it's pointless.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 21 March 2015, 06:07:31 pm
Guess it all depends on what weight your carrying,  not getting personal guys, so don't bite back lol
I'm sure there must be a sort of average for a guideline, I know it depends on lots of factors, weight, type of riding, etc,  from what I gather it's about 170/180 but is that before light comes on or running it near enough dry?
Cheers.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: johnakay on 21 March 2015, 06:51:27 pm
Guess it all depends on what weight your carrying,  not getting personal guys
[size=0px]Guess it all depends on what weight your carrying,  not getting personal guys, so don't bite back[/size]

thats fighting talk where I come from.[/size] but I don't live there any more[size=0px]
[/size]I used to get over 200 miles on a tankful and I ride two up most of the time.my current bike will do that but on less petrol around 65mpg to just over 70mpg.[size=0px]
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 21 March 2015, 08:29:15 pm
Tank sizes differ

98/99 18 litres

00/01 20 litres

02/03 22 litres

As I said earlier, a rough but fairly good guide is 10 miles per litre.
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: fazersharp on 21 March 2015, 08:56:28 pm
I think it works out about 10p a smile mile
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 22 March 2015, 06:34:07 pm
Think I've solved it guys!
Put fuel when speedo reading 22719
Filled it up
Now reading 22864
Difference of 145 till light came on.
But still leaves the dilema of how come I've only done 58.9 miles as I reset the trip.
A) I've pressed it during riding at some point and reset it?
Or
B) the trip meter is faulty?
Will try with next fill up and see what happens
Cheers
sinto :-)
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: darrsi on 22 March 2015, 09:40:11 pm
Think I've solved it guys!
Put fuel when speedo reading 22719
Filled it up
Now reading 22864
Difference of 145 till light came on.
But still leaves the dilema of how come I've only done 58.9 miles as I reset the trip.
A) I've pressed it during riding at some point and reset it?
Or
B) the trip meter is faulty?
Will try with next fill up and see what happens
Cheers
sinto :-)


Not tried it personally, so don't quote me on it if you get stranded with no fuel, but i believe you get roughly 30 miles after the warning so that adds up about right!
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 22 March 2015, 10:13:16 pm

Quote
Not tried it personally, so don't quote me on it if you get stranded with no fuel, but i believe you get roughly 30 miles after the warning so that adds up about right!

Yeah Darrsi, I don't think I'll be trying it either lol
Never like running it that low!
Fuel in it tomorrow then I'll see what I get from that but think I now may of reset it somehow without realising it so fingers crossed :-D
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: Jules-C on 22 March 2015, 10:49:37 pm
Did you disconnect the battery?  The trip gets reset whenever the battery is disconnected, even with ignition turned off there is a live connection to the clocks to keep the trip meter memory working
Title: Re: what's your fuel range?
Post by: sinto on 22 March 2015, 10:59:09 pm
Did you disconnect the battery?  The trip gets reset whenever the battery is disconnected, even with ignition turned off there is a live connection to the clocks to keep the trip meter memory working
Yeah I did Jules-C, I disconnected it when I put my optimise lleads on the battery, knew I'd find out eventually,  think all is well now, taking note that I don't disconnect the battery this next try lol