Post by: PaulSmith on 16 February 2015, 11:03:28 am
Gen1 just turned 60k. Commute home is about 16 miles. Suggestions appreciated.
Post by: tex on 16 February 2015, 11:19:26 am
Post by: Falcon 269 on 16 February 2015, 12:34:00 pm
Post by: PaulSmith on 16 February 2015, 03:27:08 pm
I have no idea how full or empty the resavour(sp?) is (how the foc are you meant to tell when it is positioned in the shadows and covered in road crude?)
At £45 for the hose and £11 for the clip, I think I will pick up some rad-weld on my way home.
Post by: Grayo on 16 February 2015, 03:50:18 pm
I think(hope) it is the jubilee clip on the outlet hose on the left side. It looks like it 'sprayed', so the base of the rad (on the left side), the left headers, the left side of the oil filter and the left frame and my left boot all had coolant but it stopped (or is empty) now. I ran the bike for a while and the fan kicked in.I have a set of hoses off a Gen 2 I can send you if you can adapt any of them to fit. Some of them have clips on too.
I have no idea how full or empty the resavour(sp?) is (how the foc are you meant to tell when it is positioned in the shadows and covered in road crude?)
At £45 for the hose and £11 for the clip, I think I will pick up some rad-weld on my way home.
Post by: PaulSmith on 16 February 2015, 04:01:18 pm
Post by: Falcon 269 on 16 February 2015, 06:02:00 pm
At £45 for the hose and £11 for the clip, I think I will pick up some rad-weld on my way home.
Radweld is for bodging rads in 60s era Fords and Austins. Has no place in a high performance motorcycle motor, IMHO. ;)
Breakers yard for a good used hose and Halfords for a jubilee clip. :)
Post by: AyJay on 16 February 2015, 09:15:17 pm
Also, if it's a hole in the radiator, a good radiator repair company will be able to fix it. I had a whacking great hole punched in my £660 curved ZZR radiator by a big chunk of road debris and they managed to fix it for £60. That was the bargain of the year, I can tell you.
Post by: PaulSmith on 17 February 2015, 11:35:46 am
My best idea so far is to refill the system and run the engine until it leaks again. At which point I will have super hot high pressure fluid spraying around. Not looking forward to it.
Post by: PaulSmith on 19 February 2015, 09:24:25 am
Post by: nickodemon on 20 February 2015, 12:00:47 am
Post by: PaulSmith on 20 February 2015, 10:25:55 am
Post by: ChristoT on 20 February 2015, 10:27:35 am
Post by: PaulSmith on 20 February 2015, 03:14:23 pm
Good way to bung up hoses or cooling passages, IMO.It would be a pretty focing useless for repairing radiators if it foced the radiators instead of repairing them, don't you think?
Post by: Fazafou on 20 February 2015, 03:59:01 pm
It would be a pretty focing useless for repairing radiators if it foced the radiators instead of repairing them, don't you think?
You're missing the point.
Radweld is an old 'get you home' product, the idea being you chucked it in, it sealed the hole and you got the motor back to then drain the system and sort the issue.
It's not really meant as a long term solution and can slowly start to bung up pipes and fine coolant channels. Also if your head gasket ever leaks you end up with it in your combustion chamber.
Motorcycle engines operates at much higher stresses than the engines radweld was originally designed for.
Choice is yours of course, it may not have any detrimental effect, but why risk it.
Post by: PaulSmith on 20 February 2015, 04:13:28 pm
Post by: PaulSmith on 20 February 2015, 05:22:12 pm
I think for the moment I will apply the same reasoning I would when using tyre gunk. It can fix a small problem, but not a big one.
Post by: Fazafou on 20 February 2015, 05:23:15 pm
You'll probably be fine for a while in all fairness, but worth getting it sorted properly when you get a chance.
Post by: nickodemon on 20 February 2015, 10:29:43 pm
Post by: PaulSmith on 26 February 2015, 11:06:45 am
broken brackets equals broken rad |
The radweld did its job, but didn't address the cause of the problem. Something you might want to check yourselves.
The fan for the radiator is held in a mild steel cage, mounted to the rad at three points. On of the holders had rotted through letting the edge of the cage rub against the back of the rad. This was probably going on for quite some time. When a second one gave out, the whole cage rubbed against, and eventually, through the rad. Apart from the hole the rad weld fixed, there are at least two other leak points. I have pulled the rad and am shipping it to a rad fixer place I have heard good things about, but I am not holding out much hope. I suggest you get out your torches and angled mirrors and check the back of your rads for damage before it is too late.
(http://foc-u.co.uk/file:///home/esmipau/Downloads/rad.jpg)
Post by: PaulSmith on 12 March 2015, 10:33:54 am
Radfix is Galway did an excellent job sorting my radiator for very little money and mentioned that if it was totally borked, they would be able to build a new one for me by keeping the reservoirs and replacing the centre with one from a car radiator. (This wouldn't work for genII's because they use curved rads).
The fan proved to be more of a problem as there are very few available. I got mine from Holland were there were two, and I found one other in Italy and one in Poland.
Post by: nickodemon on 12 March 2015, 05:12:00 pm
Post by: AyJay on 12 March 2015, 11:08:23 pm
Thanks for the head's up, Paul.
Post by: devilsyam on 13 March 2015, 01:48:07 am
Post by: PaulSmith on 13 March 2015, 10:34:13 am
Thanks for the hint about old R1 fans, I am sure that will help somebody keep their baby on the road.
Post by: AyJay on 31 May 2015, 10:03:55 pm
Anyone know of a FZS1000 radiator for sale. None on eBay bar a chinese copy. Which might be ok for 80 quid
IMG 1529 |
IMG 1533 |
This is the second radiator as the previous sprang a leak but although I've still got it, and it's not really worth repairing as it's not that much better. I guess this is what 7 winters of salt does to a Fazer radiator. The retaining rings on the header pipes are about 1/3 of the thickness they were originally too.
Post by: PaulSmith on 02 June 2015, 11:50:59 am
(The gen2 has a curved face which would make this much more tricky. Not impossible, but not cheap)
Post by: unfazed on 02 June 2015, 06:02:31 pm
At £45 for the hose and £11 for the clip, I think I will pick up some rad-weld on my way home.
Radweld is for bodging rads in 60s era Fords and Austins. Has no place in a high performance motorcycle motor, IMHO. ;)
:agree a cheap repair with possible expensive consequences
Post by: RMT1983 on 02 June 2015, 07:04:56 pm
Pm me if you still need one
Post by: AyJay on 03 June 2015, 11:16:30 pm