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General => General => Topic started by: savvy on 10 February 2015, 05:14:01 pm
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As above a report in the CRASH site that Donington is now not hosting the GP this year.
It is all on the CRASH site.
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Bugger I was planning on going!
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Yup Donny and the circuit of Wales have split!
Race to be back at silverstone in 2015 & 2016 no news on exact date though!
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Oohh? I assumed the race would now be in Wales? So it's going to be Silverstone this year then?
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Oohh? I assumed the race would now be in Wales?
I will be surprised if it ever happens.
I would love it to happen as it's only about a 30 minute ride for me.
It's going to be built in the middle of nowhere though so it's going to be very difficult for people not familiar with the area to find.
For £300m they could have found a better site for it.
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Oohh? I assumed the race would now be in Wales?
There is a public enquiry in March about deregistering some common land to get past before they can start building anything.
Last September they decided to run it at Donington for 2015 but it seems they haven't paid Donington for pre-event funding and/or they haven't got a signed contract in place, depending upon whose story you believe.
http://www.circuitofwales.com/# (http://www.circuitofwales.com/#)!Circuit-of-Wales-and-the-Planning-Inspectorate-prepare-for-a-public-inquiry/cb87/6C4768D2-9203-4EF6-84CE-43BDF49A7CF9
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It's going to be built in the middle of nowhere though so it's going to be very difficult for people not familiar with the area to find.
I went for a look around in 2013 and found the site easy.
Its just the sort of area you want in it, out of the way so you can make as much noise as you like.
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Hardly middle of nowhere just off a465 heads of the valleys road, by the bit that is currently being turned into a dual carriageway. 15 mins from my house. I would hear it if the wind was in the right direction. Sadly I can't believe it will ever happen :\
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That'd be nice to have it so close, the Australian GP is almost a 20 hour drive from me...:|...
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£300 million daft money that for an event that can be moved elsewhere at some arseholes whim. Look at F1 and how that we shite Ecellstone behaves. There is a perfectly good circuit in Wales, Trac Mon, what the feck is that all about, any time I have ever been there it is Baltic, wind and rain sweeping in from the Irish sea. These events should be held at already established venues. If this new circuit is being supported by the Welsh assembly, well feck me, think their priority should be to sort out the mess the A&E + Ambulance services are in in Wales before spending silly money on some silly fecking race track that will be used maybe , maybe once a year. Even for other events, BSB , WSB and National club events it will struggle to make money. Track days who is going to drag there sorry ass to Wales knowing that there is a 70% chance it will be pissing down by the time they get there.
It would be far better to build a circuit on the IOM , okay weather can be shite there but at least the IOM has motorcycle racing running through its veins.
I can only think of two Welsh riders that have done a bit in the racing world Ian Lougher & Paul Owen, I am sure there are others but these two spring to mind.
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£300 million daft money that for an event that can be moved elsewhere at some arseholes whim. Look at F1 and how that we shite Ecellstone behaves. There is a perfectly good circuit in Wales, Trac Mon, what the feck is that all about, any time I have ever been there it is Baltic, wind and rain sweeping in from the Irish sea. These events should be held at already established venues. If this new circuit is being supported by the Welsh assembly, well feck me, think their priority should be to sort out the mess the A&E + Ambulance services are in in Wales before spending silly money on some silly fecking race track that will be used maybe , maybe once a year. Even for other events, BSB , WSB and National club events it will struggle to make money. Track days who is going to drag there sorry ass to Wales knowing that there is a 70% chance it will be pissing down by the time they get there.
It would be far better to build a circuit on the IOM , okay weather can be shite there but at least the IOM has motorcycle racing running through its veins.
I can only think of two Welsh riders that have done a bit in the racing world Ian Lougher & Paul Owen, I am sure there are others but these two spring to mind.
From someone who lives in Spain.
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From someone who lives in Spain but also has a home in Hoylake on the Wirral.
So what is the point you are trying to make?
I do still actually attend race meetings be it Oulton Park or the NW 200, Ulster Grand Prix , Last Moto GP I went to was here in Spain Valencia last year.
:finger
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Big pity they cannot upgrade Oulton Park :D
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you wanna stay in the spain with that attitude, and lay off the whisky a bit, :lol
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Sod the Circuit of Wales - give us Welsh road racing! :smash
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we already have that every sunday nick lol, me and a lot of people in my trade, groundworks paving etc etc, have put in for contracts on this job, worth a lot of money, to me and them.
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you wanna stay in the spain with that attitude, and lay off the whisky a bit, :lol
Yea maybe your right , I will stay in Spain, to many foreigners in the UK. Thing is do I go out on the Fazer tomorrow , or the next day or the day after that or maybe even the day after that, spoilt really with the weather here you see. Now what to have for an apero before dinner should it be a glass of beer 35 cents, a G&T, bottle cost me €7.00 or shall I have a wee dram of Tullymore dew think I paid €11.00 for that ah! I know my wife has just asked me to open a nice bottle of Rioja vino tinto €23.00 a case.
Women eh! she just reminded me to go and fill the car up with Diesel @ € 1.07 a litre but I will need to fill the bike up as well oh dear that is going to cost me €1.18 a litre, just as well the £is doing well v the €1.35 today.
Yea I think I will stay in Rip off Spain. Now you all look out for yourselves in the cold , wet and windy Britian. :lol :lol
Have to admit though would really like a nice leg of Welsh lamb , that cannot be found out here :(
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you wanna stay in the spain with that attitude, and lay off the whisky a bit, :lol
Yea maybe your right , I will stay in Spain, to many foreigners in the UK. Thing is do I go out on the Fazer tomorrow , or the next day or the day after that or maybe even the day after that, spoilt really with the weather here you see. Now what to have for an apero before dinner should it be a glass of beer 35 cents, a G&T, bottle cost me €7.00 or shall I have a wee dram of Tullymore dew think I paid €11.00 for that ah! I know my wife has just asked me to open a nice bottle of Rioja vino tinto €23.00 a case.
Women eh! she just reminded me to go and fill the car up with Diesel @ € 1.07 a litre but I will need to fill the bike up as well oh dear that is going to cost me €1.18 a litre, just as well the £is doing well v the €1.35 today.
Yea I think I will stay in Rip off Spain. Now you all look out for yourselves in the cold , wet and windy Britian. :lol :lol
Have to admit though would really like a nice leg of Welsh lamb , that cannot be found out here :(
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you wanna stay in the spain with that attitude, and lay off the whisky a bit, :lol
Yea maybe your right , I will stay in Spain, to many foreigners in the UK. Thing is do I go out on the Fazer tomorrow , or the next day or the day after that or maybe even the day after that, spoilt really with the weather here you see. Now what to have for an apero before dinner should it be a glass of beer 35 cents, a G&T, bottle cost me €7.00 or shall I have a wee dram of Tullymore dew think I paid €11.00 for that ah! I know my wife has just asked me to open a nice bottle of Rioja vino tinto €23.00 a case.
Women eh! she just reminded me to go and fill the car up with Diesel @ € 1.07 a litre but I will need to fill the bike up as well oh dear that is going to cost me €1.18 a litre, just as well the £is doing well v the €1.35 today.
Yea I think I will stay in Rip off Spain. Now you all look out for yourselves in the cold , wet and windy Britian. :lol :lol
Have to admit though would really like a nice leg of Welsh lamb , that cannot be found out here :(
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Skippernick you started it.
Taylor will take your advice and stay in Spain.
Just hope the UK economy keeps improving. Don't you just love to see the exchange rate £ V € getting better every day. My pensions have increased by just over €180.00 since last month.
A wee tip if you are planning on spending your holidays in the Euro zone this year just hang on for a couple of months before buying your Euros, but buy before May general elections in the UK.
My mate has just phoned three of us meeting up tomorrow for a rideout, will post some photos.
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you wanna stay in the spain with that attitude, and lay off the whisky a bit, :lol
Yea maybe your right , I will stay in Spain, to many foreigners in the UK. Thing is do I go out on the Fazer tomorrow , or the next day or the day after that or maybe even the day after that, spoilt really with the weather here you see. Now what to have for an apero before dinner should it be a glass of beer 35 cents, a G&T, bottle cost me €7.00 or shall I have a wee dram of Tullymore dew think I paid €11.00 for that ah! I know my wife has just asked me to open a nice bottle of Rioja vino tinto €23.00 a case.
Women eh! she just reminded me to go and fill the car up with Diesel @ € 1.07 a litre but I will need to fill the bike up as well oh dear that is going to cost me €1.18 a litre, just as well the £is doing well v the €1.35 today.
Yea I think I will stay in Rip off Spain. Now you all look out for yourselves in the cold , wet and windy Britian. :lol :lol
Have to admit though would really like a nice leg of Welsh lamb , that cannot be found out here :(
How to make friends and influence people!
Skippernick you started it.
Taylor will take your advice and stay in Spain.
Just hope the UK economy keeps improving. Don't you just love to see the exchange rate £ V € getting better every day. My pensions have increased by just over €180.00 since last month.
A wee tip if you are planning on spending your holidays in the Euro zone this year just hang on for a couple of months before buying your Euros, but buy before May general elections in the UK.
My mate has just phoned three of us meeting up tomorrow for a rideout, will post some photos.
And this all has to do with MotoGP.....what, exactly? The weather? Cheap booze? The exchange rate? Beats the foc outta me :\
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:hijack :hijack :hijack
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Talk motorbikes on a motorbike forum?
That would be like wasting a sick day by being ill :eek
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www.crash.net (http://www.crash.net)
All the info for dates and venues for Moto GP, WSB & BSB found here.
More of a roads fan myself.
Think Savvy may have posted the site on his first post about this.
Is this post okay or will I need to run it past the Guru's on here.
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of all the imagrants in spain, we get Cyril the squirrel from blow and go. drinking his cheap plonk and commenting on the welsh and british economy. I suggest you keep an eye on your adopted country,s economy and take a look at there unemployment figures. GREAT BRITAIN is the finest country in the world, something to be proud of my friend, that's why people want to live here,, although some do struggle on there pensions, that's why they go abroad, I had a place in sharm el sheik, very cheap but not up to british standards, fuel and whisky is far cheaper there if that's your poison . happy biking in the sun.. 8)
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I live less than five minures from the proposed site of this track and have been following its planning for a few years. the track has been controversial and had obstacles put in its way from the start.one final hurdle to overcome is the reallocation of the common land that the public enquiry is the subject of in march.if this is overcome then it will be built. I can't wait for it to be built for a number of reasons but mainly due to the potential economic live line it gives the area and also the fact its going to be world class venue..im no buisnessman so dont know how financially viable it is in long term but if it creates any jobs in an area raped for its natural resources in the past making cardiff /uk rich and then abandoned is good news by me.id rather see money put into this than the proposed electrication of the valleys lines which will cost more just to make a five mins saving on a hr train journey!
It is easy to get to and has good road links with the new dualling Of the A465 to the m4/m5.its also in one of the best motorbike riding areas of the uk with brecon beacons and mid wales stone throw away..if they build it ,they WILL come .....rant over!!!
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I was just trying to register on the MotoGP site and there was no option for United Kingdom......? We pissed em off? :lol
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Try www.motogp.com (http://www.motogp.com)
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Try [url=http://www.motogp.com]www.motogp.com[/url] ([url]http://www.motogp.com[/url])
Edit: Ignore my silly arse, they've craftily listed us as Great Britain... I could have sworn that wasn't there last night.
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anyone just watched that :eek rossi is a god
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What on earth have Ducati been doing over winter, whatever it's worked! They only had the bike for just over a month and it's performing good enough to get 2 of them on the podium, Rossi was back on form yes, Marquez was just unluckily on that first lap so don't go writing him off. Even Suzuki had a good race and they should just improve as the year progresses, but they all better watch out for those Ducati's.
I think 2015 is going to be a good year!
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Anyone know where I can watch it? Was unable to see it live due to commitments, but it sounds like it was epic!
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Yes an awesome race. Rossi ! Rossi !!! :) :) :)
As for the Ducati's, they run in "open" rule class, so they can use soft tyres in qualifying,thus they got 4 bikes in the top six or something like that,
Then in the race they are allowed to use two litres more fuel , so their bikes can be cranked up more than "factory" rule class.So more top end speed than Honda and Yam.
If they win 3 races in a season then these rules will be pulled from them,to stop a two rule whitewash,,
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Great Race. Thought Rossi was gonna loose it over the line like 2 laps before the last lap. Tactical masterpiece from Rossi. Maybe you can teach a old dog new tricks,Rossi looks leaner and fitter than ever.
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Anyone know where I can watch it? Was unable to see it live due to commitments, but it sounds like it was epic!
ITV4 tonight at 8pm.
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There are plenty of sites with this on this morning im not sure if i can post on here though. Pm if u want a link.
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Pm'd a few guys. :D Maybe i should start a thread.
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See my sig for link... ;)
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Bloody hell, that was good! :eek
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Great race, did not think Rossi was far enough ahead to out drag Dovi to the line. Maybe Ducati backed off :eek :) ???????
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The pace on those Ducatis was something else! And how the hell did Marquez claw his way back up the field? Where do Honda get that power?!?
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first time I've seen Marquez in the pits looking anxious and thoughtful after the race. Some terrific work on the Ducs to improve the handling by an order of magnitude plus thee Suzukis showing promise and the Hondas seemingly not as all conquering as before. That was one of the best races I've seen in years.......Vintage season coming up??
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Not a Spaniard to be seen on the podium, when last did that happen? :eek
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That was awesome, Rossi is a god! Great to see Dovi having a great race, I've always liked him as a ride.
Our aim is to get to qualifying at Silverstone this year, I have to see Rossi ride in the flesh. Can't afford the race prices though. Qualifying kids always go free :-)
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It's going to be built in the middle of nowhere though so it's going to be very difficult for people not familiar with the area to find.
For £300m they could have found a better site for it.
Like they'd spend £300m and not paint arrows on the sheep to guide the traffic. Even the Welsh aren't that thick ;)
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As for the Ducati's, they run in "open" rule class, so they can use soft tyres in qualifying,thus they got 4 bikes in the top six or something like that,
Then in the race they are allowed to use two litres more fuel , so their bikes can be cranked up more than "factory" rule class.So more top end speed than Honda and Yam.
Not quite matey it's called the "Ducati Compromise" Suzuki have much the same.
A manufacturer with an entry under the factory option that has not achieved a win in dry conditions in the previous year (Ducati) will initially have :-
- 12 engines per rider per season with no design freeze
- 24 liters of fuel
- Same tires allocation (addition of an extra soft compound rear) as Open Class.
- Unlimited testing.
- Success Penalty
Subject to results, a series of success penalties will apply, and in 2014 this means for Ducati:
Fuel allocation will be reduced to 22 liters if the combined results of Ducati riders (Dovizioso, Crutchlow and Iannone) reach one race win, two second places or three third-place finishes.
Three race wins by any combination of riders will also mean the loss of the extra soft tire option.
So Ducati is a factory entry — and able to use its own ECU software — but with the advantages of the open class until it triggers the success penalties. These changes mean that the lower-budget independent teams will not be overpowered by a factory bike in a class that was designed to build competitive opportunity for privateers.
They've just lost the 24 litres and are now on 22 and they way their going and the others are not they could be quite quickly back to a full factory or they could start going backwards!
Oh and Pedrosa has just announced he's pulling out due to arm pump, it's going to be a year to remember.......bring it on! :) :)
Next year it's one set of rules for everyone!
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Erm... Crutchlow's on a Honda... :lol :lol :lol
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Erm... Crutchlow's on a Honda... :lol :lol :lol
Yes but he's still in 4014
and repeating what i wrote (confirming) . :)
Ducati are able to cheat in qualifying by using a SOFTer tyre, thats how they got to the front of the start grid.
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Ducati are able to cheat in qualifying by using a SOFTer tyre, thats how they got to the front of the start grid.
In my opinion there's has always been too much hype as to where a rider is on pole and mostly now days it's about attracting more TV coverage.
Qualifying was traditionally about sorting out those who had no chance of running with the pack, when was the last time someone didn't qualify in GP that wasn't due to mechanical failure! Yes they need to sort out the grid slower at the back etc. That said fast riders/bikes even if they start from pit lane will still hit the top 5 within a few laps even win, Mr Marquez has done it a few times and he was at the back within the 1st lap of Sundays race still finished 4th.
All but a few were running medium tyres for the race, again I think there's too much emphasis on which compound tyre, and it gives the riders an excuse. Superbike uses control tyres as does many other races series these days you still get big differences in performance, lap times and finishing places.
So in my opinion it matters not where they start on the grid so much, if the rider is good and the bike is well set up and fast. Ducati are not cheating they just have a very fast bike and a very good rider in Dovizioso, now what will be the fun part is can they keep on top as there success penalties kick in? But without doubt Honda and Yamaha will be more than a little worried as I think Ducati have more up their sleeve
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with the exception of casey stoner yamaha/honda have been the only bikes in the mix for years. the new rules giving other manufacturers a chance are working, looks like being the best most competetive season for a long time. Rossi proved that rider input counts bring it on
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Interestingly I've been doing a little digging about Ducati's fuel consumption.
Apparently they are very, very good on fuel and have never come close to using 24 or 22 in fact I'm lead to believe not even 20lts which is the factory entries limit. Even at the fuel hungry circuits they are better than Yamaha and Honda who are limited to 20lts they have definitely got stuff up their sleeve ;) [size=78%] [/size]
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Yes it is going to be close,
In the last five years Ducati have claimed most top speeds on track,
The Yamaha's are fast, the fact is Marquez made NO impact on the top four after he made that mistake, he finished 7 seconds from Rossi, so are the Honda's faster than Yamaha ???? we ask
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According to MotoGP.com the highest speeds recoded were in this order
Marquez 350.5 kph
Pedrosa 348.6
Crutchlow 346.5
Doviziozo 346.2
with Rossi 13th at 341.7
http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2015/QAT/MotoGP/RAC/AverageSpeed.pdf?v1_9b1c9216 (http://resources.motogp.com/files/results/2015/QAT/MotoGP/RAC/AverageSpeed.pdf?v1_9b1c9216)
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The next race should be very interesting, Yamaha and Honda are going to come out fighting Marquez isn't going to just role over neither will Lorenzo. This is just what was needed the possibility that it's not going to be just Honda with Yamaha at their heels potentially it's wide open :) 8) 8)
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Roll on Austin, :woot At least we have BSB to prevent withdrawal symptoms this weekend :)
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Funny i remember all this hype after the first race last year and then it turned into a dull procession, fairly safe bet it'll happen again.
Remember Marquez cocked up if he hadn't it would of been a race to be the first loser!
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Funny i remember all this hype after the first race last year and then it turned into a dull procession
It's possible but I doubt it. This year we have for the fist time in a good few years some real contenders in the mix other than just Honda and Yamaha. Obviously Ducati but lets not forget Suzuki who like Ducati have the same Compromise entry they can keep developing the engine have more fuel etc which will allow them to close the gap and get them on level pegging.
Lets also not forget Mr Padrosa bowing out who's going to replace him I wonder?
I really hope it doesn't or is will just turn into the F1 progression which is boring as hell these days.
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That was one of the best races for many years.
Ducati are on 22l of fuel from now on but it seems they haven't been using more than that anyway. It was a stunning debut for the new bike considering the others have been testing theirs for a while and Ducati have only had their top riders on it for a few days.
They are still going to be helped out in qualifying by the softer option tyre.
I read on motogp.com Pedrosa is being replaced by Aoyama for 2 races whilst he recovers from surgery on his arm. Hopefully that will cure his arm pump, but he has had surgery for that already. Finger crossed.
I doubt Marquez will be giving everyone a head start like that again.
Last year Rossi had a good Qatar race, then finished 8th and 4th in the next 2.
Cant wait for the next one.
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