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General => General => Topic started by: kitcrazy on 01 February 2015, 01:50:33 pm
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just had a 2 hour test ride on the tracer :eek what a bike light fast comes with all the toys and just over 8k.i think there gonna sell shit loads of these.its got to be the best all rounder for that sort of money.got to have one :b
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It has one seriously fugly exhaust though!
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Yes I want one as well only trouble is it is too tall for me, as it stands, but there are lowering kits available and my dealer has discovered that Yamaha also do a different seat which is lower than the original so he is getting a seat in and will phone me when I can test ride it, in the meantime I'm going to test ride the Triumph 800 XR which also comes with a lower seat.
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It has one seriously fugly exhaust though!
Yeah, but they all do nowadays don't they. I would imagine many would replace it with something cosmetically more to their own taste anyway. Kitcrazy, if you get one, we will, of course, require a full write-up on what it's like when you've put some miles on it :)
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nick im not much of a keyboard basher but ill give it ago or just let you have ago come spring :thumbup
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nick im not much of a keyboard basher but ill give it ago or just let you have ago come spring :thumbup
You'd be welcome to come on up to Carlisle for a blat on some northern roads :thumbup
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How heavy is the tracer????...180kg rings a bell?
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How heavy is the tracer????...180kg rings a bell?
190kg dry, 210 wet from what I've read.
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How heavy is the tracer????...180kg rings a bell?
190kg dry, 210 wet from what I've read.
Ok so not far off a fazer then really yet the reviews indicate it is light......so it just feels light i suppose rather than actually being light......wonder what the main contributor is to that feeling of lightness
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How heavy is the tracer????...180kg rings a bell?
190kg dry, 210 wet from what I've read.
Ok so not far off a fazer then really yet the reviews indicate it is light......so it just feels light i suppose rather than actually being light......wonder what the main contributor is to that feeling of lightness
It's made of the same chocolate as Aero bars :thumbup
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What is heavier.......a tonne of feathers......or a tonne of concrete?
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it does feel really light and the bars are very wide.its very flickable.
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it does feel really light and the bars are very wide.its very flickable.
Do you reckon the bars are a contributor then????
I only ask as im soon changing bars on the FZ1 & you used to have a FZ1 so are a good judge......or maybe the Tracer being tall and its centre of gravity just makes it more sorted.
Is this them???
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yep thats it. the wide bars definitely help i think. and because it looks a big bike you dont expect it to be so good.
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I have sat one one (mt09) and just by sitting on it seems lighter than my FZS 600. Isnt the mt 09 called a FZ 09 in the states and as it sounds like the perfect all rounder like our beloved fzs 600 shouldnt we have a section on the forum for it
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We had this discussion before. It may bear a similar name to the Gen 2s, but the Fazer name has been dropped. I think consensus was it was a different bike, therefore shouldn't have a spot on the Fazer Forum.
:faz
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I think it have a section too :b
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It has one seriously fugly exhaust though!
Its seriously ugly full stop :eek :eek :eek
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I think it have a section too :b
Whassup, worried an MT09 forum won't have as high a class of banter? :rollin
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I have sat one one (mt09) and just by sitting on it seems lighter than my FZS 600. Isnt the mt 09 called a FZ 09 in the states and as it sounds like the perfect all rounder like our beloved fzs 600 shouldnt we have a section on the forum for it
think its a FJ 09 in the states ? bloody septics carnt help themselves from changing bloody names of things- football/soccer,boot/trunk, rugby/american football, rounders/baseball etc ;)
and im in the process of organishing myself a test ride on the Tracer from Fowlers in brizzle.lack of time before march is reigning things in for me which is truly annoying as im keen to get my leg over the beastie :b
where did you get the test ride from mate? Fowlers bike isnt even in store yet,let alone built and up for test riding :wall
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I have sat one one (mt09) and just by sitting on it seems lighter than my FZS 600. Isnt the mt 09 called a FZ 09 in the states and as it sounds like the perfect all rounder like our beloved fzs 600 shouldnt we have a section on the forum for it
think its a FJ 09 in the states ? bloody septics carnt help themselves from changing bloody names of things- football/soccer,boot/trunk, rugby/american football, rounders/baseball etc ;)
and im in the process of organishing myself a test ride on the Tracer from Fowlers in brizzle.lack of time before march is reigning things in for me which is truly annoying as im keen to get my leg over the beastie :b
where did you get the test ride from mate? Fowlers bike isnt even in store yet,let alone built and up for test riding :wall
I saw the front end of one in Pheonix today as i passed in Trowbridge.
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Can see where Yamaha are going with the Tracer since the MT09 is a naked bike with small (14 Litre ) tank.
The Tracer should "reel in" customers wanting some wind/weather protection and ability to tour without constantly worrying about fuel light coming on.
All the Fazers & FZ models of thou & 800 are missing from the new Yamaha catalogue so presumably discontinued ?
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All the Fazers & FZ models of thou & 800 are missing from the new Yamaha catalogue so presumably discontinued ?
Good timing, as next year the FZS1000 will be a classic by VJMC rules :D
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where did you get the test ride from mate? Fowlers bike isnt even in store yet,let alone built and up for test riding (http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/wall.gif)
laguna maidstone
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where did you get the test ride from mate? Fowlers bike isnt even in store yet,let alone built and up for test riding ([url]http://foc-u.co.uk/Smileys/efocicon/wall.gif[/url])
laguna maidstone
Still haven't got the hang of that quote thingy then :lol
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No mate still fuking useless :o :rollin :rollin :rollin
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I reckon Yamaha have read the market right. They have been there and done that with the Gen 1 & 2 then along came the Z1000SX in late 2010, the SX is a belting bike no doubt about it. FZ1 lost it's market share so what do Yamaha need to do. Build something that is around £1800 cheaper, make it into a lower powered do it all adventure/sports/tourer. The big Versy is a belter, the new Mk2 SX is a belter. The MT-09 Tracer is well priced and should catch some of those who are replacing the early SX models. I know a couple from the SX forum have gone down this route. Also honda are not replacing the CBF 1000 Mk2 so will catch some from that group as well.
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I test rode a Z1000SX before buying the FZ1.
Was a nice bike, but the one I rode had vibration through the bars and didn't give me the thrill the fax did.
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How tall are you guys who have ridden the Tracer? I am 6'3 and when I sat on it at the NEC I thought it was a bit cramped..
Could I consider parting with my Gen 1? lol
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I test rode a Z1000SX before buying the FZ1.
Was a nice bike, but the one I rode had vibration through the bars and didn't give me the thrill the fax did.
I had an sx for nearly 3 years loved it and changing the front sprocket helped the vibs. No centre stand peed me off and it just seemed to be getting to heavy for me. The longer I have the FZ1 the more I like it and the fazer is a more comfortable bike, it handles better and the fuelling is better, fuel consumption is poor on the FZ1 compared to the SX
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im 5ft11 and found the hight ok and leg room great
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Maybe, but that's just a good excuse to your partner as to why you NEED the optional Akrapovič....
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It has one seriously fugly exhaust though!
Maybe, but that's just a good excuse to your partner as to why you NEED the optional Akrapovič....
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Yes I want one as well only trouble is it is too tall for me, as it stands, but there are lowering kits available and my dealer has discovered that Yamaha also do a different seat which is lower than the original so he is getting a seat in and will phone me when I can test ride it, in the meantime I'm going to test ride the Triumph 800 XR which also comes with a lower seat.
Yep, the seat height is dropped by 32mm with the low seat (2PP247C01000) and the suspension link (2PPF538P0000) drops it a further 15mm .
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I really like this bike. Having recently had my first TDM 850 (post 96 with the 270 degree crank) last year, and then selling it last October because it was a little underpowered, the Tracer with its healthy output and similar stance rang my "I want it" bell.
Its just a shame I cant justify spending £8K on a bike, just to watch it shed value by the minute. I'd rather wait till the cash moulting effect has been suffered by another owner and the price has come down to a point where, if the wife found out how much I paid, I wouldn't have to answer the question "What the bloody hell did you think you were doing spending £8K of our money on a bloody bike? You dickhead!".
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Ok, this morning my Yammy dealer phoned and said I have a low seat for the 09 tracer, do you want a test ride yes says I so I took the tracer out for a 10 mile jaunt and did not like it at all it did not feel as if I was in control , told the dealer I thought the bike was crap, oh dear he said would you like to try the 09 naked version ok says I, well a mile up the road this bike felt great so I continued for 20 miles and returned to the dealer with a big smile on my face , after a bit of a haggle I have ordered a new MT 09 naked and got a good part ex for my 08 Fazer which I've had from new , so in march I will have a 15 plate 09 in time for some summer fun.
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Just had a go on the tracer, and it really is a good bike!
However.........
That screen is absolutely useless! What were Yamaha thinking? An £8k bike with a £10 screen.
The chassis is good, the engine is an absolute gem, and its oddly comfortable with the sculptured seat.
It's a bit like a cross between a Fazer 600 and a Tdm. Bags of instant torque, but it revs like a 600/4!!! It feels like it's definately more powerful than 115bhp.
If it was my 'only bike' then I'd probably have one. If I was after a pure fun machine, then I'd have the naked MT-09.
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That screen is absolutely useless! What were Yamaha thinking? An £8k bike with a £10 screen.
Is it poor compared to Fazer 600? I wonder if there are / will be bigger / wider versions!
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Spoke to the sales bloke, and Thee is a Yamaha taller screen, but tbh, it needs a lower one for clean air.
I'm sure it won't be long before aftermarket stuff comes out.
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went to Fowlers in Bristol yesterday to view the Tracer,im seriously tempted to get one,my only concern is the width of the handlebars as its bloody tight enough getting the Fazer 600 round the back of my place to my flat through 2 gates. even if i had the gimmicky handgaurds removed it'll be tight so might have to 'relocate' both sets of gates to make more room,which is a bit cheeky cos i rent but my landlord is pretty chilled so i dont see him worrying to much if i pay to re jig the gates a tad.
does anyone know the width of the standard bars on my 01 Fazer ?
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Not on yours, No :lol
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Not on yours, No :lol
i thought this might happen when i re read my post :)
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Ok, this morning my Yammy dealer phoned and said I have a low seat for the 09 tracer, do you want a test ride yes says I so I took the tracer out for a 10 mile jaunt and did not like it at all it did not feel as if I was in control , told the dealer I thought the bike was crap, oh dear he said would you like to try the 09 naked version ok says I, well a mile up the road this bike felt great so I continued for 20 miles and returned to the dealer with a big smile on my face , after a bit of a haggle I have ordered a new MT 09 naked and got a good part ex for my 08 Fazer which I've had from new , so in march I will have a 15 plate 09 in time for some summer fun.
I take it you're bloggsy on the mt site?
You are going to love the MT mate, it'll blow you away time after time after having an FZ6 :)
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roadcraft nottingham did a review of the tracer last week for those who havent saw it:
Yamaha MT09 or FJ09 Tracer first impressions review (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39J9GkE2FEA#ws)
:)
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The mt09 seems a very capable bike - but IMHO just hideously ugly!! I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder - but it's better if you're not blind - or perhaps it is if you're looking at an mt09 :-)
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I like the front half, but as with a lot of the dual sports, the rear looks like an after thought, and the plate holder looks hideous.
Don't mind it on the FZ1 strangely, but horrible on the tracer.
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The reg plate holder with indicators sticking out like that is to satisfy some sort of regulation in some country somewhere (probably here, don't know) and it's supposed to be super easy to remove it, and to reattach it right under the seat, a lot like a tail-tidy.
The flat square rear seat doesn't fit well with rest of the bike. I wonder why they went with that rather than one that narrows towards the end like almost every other bike out there.
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And found this 'touring' version photo online with a taller, wider (and manky-er) screen.
(http://www.bikerszene.de/Motorradbilder/6537108/Yamaha_MT_09_TRACER_22_Touring_Ausstattung.jpg)
http://www.bikerszene.de/magazin/testberichte/Yamaha_MT_09_TRACER_22_Touring_Ausstattung-6537108-1.html#img (http://www.bikerszene.de/magazin/testberichte/Yamaha_MT_09_TRACER_22_Touring_Ausstattung-6537108-1.html#img)
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Thats a sail
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Thats a sail
Barn door springs to mind...... :lol
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Reminds me of one of these for some reason. :P
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I think I see what you mean
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Ok, this morning my Yammy dealer phoned and said I have a low seat for the 09 tracer, do you want a test ride yes says I so I took the tracer out for a 10 mile jaunt and did not like it at all it did not feel as if I was in control , told the dealer I thought the bike was crap, oh dear he said would you like to try the 09 naked version ok says I, well a mile up the road this bike felt great so I continued for 20 miles and returned to the dealer with a big smile on my face , after a bit of a haggle I have ordered a new MT 09 naked and got a good part ex for my 08 Fazer which I've had from new , so in march I will have a 15 plate 09 in time for some summer fun.
I take it you're bloggsy on the mt site?
You are going to love the MT mate, it'll blow you away time after time after having an FZ6 :)
Absolutely correct
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Well, had my MT09 TRACER for 3 weeks now, broke it in as per the manual (well, kind of ) and had the first service done in time for easter, loving the feel of a brand new bike ( my first brand new bike since my VFR 750 in 1989 ) and its shown up just how tired my beloved old boxeye Fazer was ( nothing a bit of tlc couldnt of sorted, but I just couldnt turn away the chance to buy the Tracer )
the engine is lovely and torquey and the whole bike is bloody quick, it handles well ( for me anyway, im no boy racer but I do like to make progress to my limitations and comfort level ) . Im loving the sound of the triple, always liked hearing the Triumph Tigers go past me when im out walking the dog and the exhaust has a nice 'thrump'to it, id love to stick the offical Akrapovic on the bike but untill I get another job I carnt justify the grand it costs !!
It is a tall'ish bike, but im 5 foot 11 and can flat foot it on level ground as standard, its nimble round car parks etc and it doesnt have the on/off f/i that appears to have affected the old mt 09
BUT theres a limited recall over a bad batch of gear shift shafts, I appear to have been lucky and not been involved in the recall. Yet.
overall, well pleased I had the courage to go for the new bike and id recommend anyone thinking about trying one to book a test ride-sadly they are selling far to well so theres a waiting list and a back log on all the after market add ons available from/through Yamaha but hopefully this will get sorted
only down side, the American forum for the Tracer isnt half as fun as this one is, far to bloody serious some of them !!