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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: gerkin on 17 January 2015, 06:08:36 pm

Title: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: gerkin on 17 January 2015, 06:08:36 pm
the last week this is becoming a right pain in the arse
,having trouble getting the key in and out ,worse when the sterring lock is on
so tight feels like the key is going to shear ,whats the best way to lube or clean
switch works perfect
 
cheers gaz
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: Mick-H on 17 January 2015, 06:11:10 pm
Start off by trying WD40 in and around the barrel.  :)
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: fatboy on 17 January 2015, 08:46:50 pm
this works good as well
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57
 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57)
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: darrsi on 17 January 2015, 08:47:47 pm
I wouldn't use WD40, it's not right for the job!

Look up Graphite Lock Lube on Ebay or Amazon, it's under £3.

Also, pushing the handlebars fully to the left, which will only be a few millimetres,  will help when on the steering lock as well.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: His Dudeness on 17 January 2015, 09:03:56 pm
Don't use the steering lock. it'll do shag all good to stop someone stealing your bike. they take about 30 to snap
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: darrsi on 17 January 2015, 10:25:37 pm
Don't use the steering lock. it'll do shag all good to stop someone stealing your bike. they take about 30 to snap

That's all very well for the more advanced tea leaf, but a steering lock is certainly better than nothing for the opportunist scrote bag.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: Doddsie on 18 January 2015, 02:14:33 am
try rubbing the sides of the key with a pencil.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: His Dudeness on 18 January 2015, 08:24:26 am
Don't use the steering lock. it'll do shag all good to stop someone stealing your bike. they take about 30 to snap

That's all very well for the more advanced tea leaf, but a steering lock is certainly better than nothing for the opportunist scrote bag.

It's about as good as putting a brick under the front wheel and hoping that'll stop someone taking the bike. If you're too lazy to spend 30 seconds locking your bike properly then it's your own fault if it gets nicked. With the under seat compartment on the fazer you've got no reasons not to carry a proper lock. A good quality lock isn't much deterrent either but at least the pos taking the bike will need tools to cut through it.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: darrsi on 18 January 2015, 10:05:19 am
Don't use the steering lock. it'll do shag all good to stop someone stealing your bike. they take about 30 to snap

That's all very well for the more advanced tea leaf, but a steering lock is certainly better than nothing for the opportunist scrote bag.

It's about as good as putting a brick under the front wheel and hoping that'll stop someone taking the bike. If you're too lazy to spend 30 seconds locking your bike properly then it's your own fault if it gets nicked. With the under seat compartment on the fazer you've got no reasons not to carry a proper lock. A good quality lock isn't much deterrent either but at least the pos taking the bike will need tools to cut through it.


Oh, i see, yeah i have a chain under my seat that a small anchor would be proud of.  :)
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: Mick-H on 18 January 2015, 10:26:03 am
I wouldn't use WD40, it's not right for the job!


I'd be interested to know why it's not right for the job!!  more info required please.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: sasu on 18 January 2015, 10:39:15 am
WD40 is more a cleaning agent than a lubricator. Use lubricating oil to keep the lock working smoothly.

I have the same problem periodically. Spraying lock oil in there solves the problem for a long time. I guess it does not have to be specific lock oil, but they have a convenient straw to get the oil inside the lock barrel.

http://www.wd40.co.uk/faq.html (http://www.wd40.co.uk/faq.html)

"What does WD-40 do?
WD-40 fulfils five basic functions: 1. CLEANS: WD-40 gets under dirt, grime and grease to clean. It also dissolves adhesives, allowing easy removal of labels, tape and excess bonding material. 2. DISPLACES MOISTURE: Because WD-40 displaces moisture, it quickly dries out electrical systems to eliminate moisture-induced short circuits. 3. PENETRATES: WD-40 loosens rust-to-metal bonds and frees stuck, frozen or rusted metal parts. 4. LUBRICATES: WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and tenaciously held to all moving parts. 5. PROTECTS: WD-40 protects metal surfaces with corrosion-resistant ingredients to shield against moisture and other corrosive elements."
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: gerkin on 18 January 2015, 10:47:11 am
this works good as well
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url]
 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url])
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cheers will give this a try
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: darrsi on 18 January 2015, 11:10:15 am
Just found this stuff as well.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abus-PS88-Lock-Lubricant-De-Icer-Cleaner-Protects-Spray-50ml-/251219696844?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&hash=item3a7ddc5ccc (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abus-PS88-Lock-Lubricant-De-Icer-Cleaner-Protects-Spray-50ml-/251219696844?pt=UK_HaG_Lock_Safes_GL&hash=item3a7ddc5ccc)
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: YamFazFan on 18 January 2015, 02:07:40 pm
I bought a 125ml bottle of Singer sewing machine oil from a sewing machine/wool shop ages ago.very light oil.It wasn't particularly cheap,but because it's only used for lubricating finer,small stuff it lasts a very long time.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: Frosties on 18 January 2015, 04:58:42 pm
this works good as well
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url]
 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url])
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cheers will give this a try




This Ambersil graphite is the only type of thing that should be sprayed into any ignition barrel. Use it on the disk lock, seat lock, front door, car doors etc but as said NEVER use WD40...it attracts grit.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: noggythenog on 18 January 2015, 06:16:32 pm
Graphite all the way, worked wonders on both my bikes plus ann added bonus of fixing my almost seized front door lock. 8)
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: YamFazFan on 18 January 2015, 07:15:32 pm
I'd never heard of graphite lock lubricant before.A dry powder lube.Can see the sense in that,what with avoiding attracting grit.Think I will invest in a can of that :).
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: Deefer666 on 18 January 2015, 08:17:15 pm
Just dip your key in some engine oil and then put into the lock and work the key in the lock, Oiling the lock is not effective as the oil will just pool at the bottom and run out, same with thin machine/gun oils. Oiling the key and not the lock with a thicker oil means the oil will get to the tumblers which is where it needs to be.
Title: Re: ignition switch trouble getting key in and out
Post by: gerkin on 26 January 2015, 06:46:46 pm
this works good as well
[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url]
 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-x-LOCK-LUBE-LUBRICANT-AEROSOL-SPRAY-PADLOCK-GRAPHITE-OIL-CAR-KEY-DOOR-DRY-/190772296791?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2c6aea3c57[/url])
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cheers will give this a try


 
works very well a lot smoother,thanks for the tip