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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Nebuchernezzer on 14 January 2015, 06:04:59 am
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So I've done the blurb before in the introduction but I bought a '99 FZS600 about 5ish months ago to use as a daily commuter. I'd ridden one before since me and a mate have a written off one we use as a track bike, they aren't that common here in Australia, but it was the right price. $2900 AUD on road with 6 months rego. So about 1500 GBP I think.
Had a few minor things go wrong with it, had a bad batch of fuel through it which made it run awfully and highlighted a few other problems with the carbs. Carbs still need to come out for a clean, set floats etc etc.
It has around 78,000 km or so on it so just under 50k miles?
Stripped the rear axle thread (didn't have much pressure on when i did it so i suspect it was already mostly stripped before i got to it!) the other day so just replaced the rear axle and nut last night. While it was just sitting in the shed before xmas I mocked up a few things on it, which moves us on to mods.
There were two ways I'd like to go with this bike, one is just to make it a sort of slightly tougher looking street bike with a slightly more aggressive stance, the other is to make it a faired cafe racer bike. The cafe option i've thought about alot and planned out and yeah....it's my preferred option, but i can always do that later as a re-incarnation of the bike.
So on a whim i bought a street/speed triple headlight on ebay cheap and off i go from there.
Existing mods:
Yoshimura TRS slip on
K&N air filter
Aftermarket bars
Planned mods:
Shorty the TRS
Ditch the fairing (i only go through one speed zone over 80 on the way to work, the rest is 60, and i don't find the fazer fairing does a whole heap of protecting anyways). Put on triumph headlight
Aftermarket levers because they're pretty, no other reason.
Bar end mirrors, cos i'm ditching the fairing.
Repaint tail section to make it look slimmer (don't want to actually change the tail cos it's quite practical for storing things and my girlfriend goes on the back of the bike too and it's good the way it is).
Radiator covers, to cover up what the fairing leaves exposed once it's off...also a place to mount my indicators once the fairing is gone.
LED slim indicators.
Tail tidy (got a spare stock undertail to chop up)
Short and vertical bar risers, got some from a Yamaha TTR that will fit with the fairing ditched.
Pod filters on the carbs, just cos really haha. Will be fun to muck about with.
Replace 9mm sprocket nut when the chain is up for renewal, and just general wear and tear stuff too. I've got a set of needles and seats for the carbs, NGK plug ends, that kind of stuff just sitting around for whenever i get around to putting them on.
So i took the fairing off the other day and mocked up the triumph headlight using some tape. I've decided to mount the light around 30mm further back and 30mm further down than it's shown in the pictures here. The dash mounts will come down 30mm. I'll make a cover piece that's V shaped to cover the exposed rear of the dash and to fill in the space between the triumph headlights.
The triumph headlights will mount via fatbar riser that i bought. I have a spare FZS headlight bracket to cut up and weld and etc to make this all work with minimum effort.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_173718_zps1a3d6d44.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_173718_zps1a3d6d44.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_173803_zps688e2e8e.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_173803_zps688e2e8e.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_173750_zps315b7fa6.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_173750_zps315b7fa6.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_173824_zps0d43a15f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_173824_zps0d43a15f.jpg.html)
I also mocked up the tail section with black duct tape to see how i could make it look, slight variations below.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_181156_zps3be04d90.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_181156_zps3be04d90.jpg.html)\
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_181423_zps632e499d.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_181423_zps632e499d.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_181700_zpsc4734de2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_181700_zpsc4734de2.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20141225_181700_zpsc4734de2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20141225_181700_zpsc4734de2.jpg.html)
Not sure about the side covers, did some quite microsoft paint mock ups just to get a feel but i've not hit on anything just yet.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/vehicle3170_1_zps89fa0d8c.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/vehicle3170_1_zps89fa0d8c.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/vehicle3170_2_zps23738ce2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/vehicle3170_2_zps23738ce2.jpg.html)
Anyways that'll do for now, but you get the idea of where I'm heading with this. Nice solid streetbike that looks a bit different from most. Sadly most people will probably just think it's another street triple with that headlight on it but i can always change that later.
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Looks good unfaired .. although I personally think those headlights are the ugliest Triumph have produced ... .. sorry :/
I'm currently considering what mods to do to my bike ... so many different ideas and mods out there I change my mind each week ! Lol
Look forward to future pics and progress
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Yeah i think it's one of those polarising designs that's for sure!
My actual preferred front end would be a number board with a projector through the corner of it, but i can worry about making one of those later on, possibly using the same bar clamp style headlight mount as this setup uses....interchangable lighting setups! :)
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Stuck some pretty levers (china eBay) on, ordered a few other bits and pieces.
Got my debrix cartridge emulators and 2013 R6 rear shock sitting in the shed.
Awaiting a rear spring, some bar end mirrors, braided brake lines...etc :).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150203_183110_zpsde92e39f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150203_183110_zpsde92e39f.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150203_183101_zps6d5ce906.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150203_183101_zps6d5ce906.jpg.html)
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So lots of stuff has arrived in the mail.
2007 Triumph Bonneville standard fork springs.
From memory the dimensions of them are:
35mm OD
4.7mm wire size
328mm free length
18.5 free coils
Straight rate too, got them for 1c on ebay ;).
Now i've calculated out the spring rate roughly and i get 0.95kg/mm. Racetech says they are 0.75kg/mm. I'll reconcile that somehow, work out the real rate and then shorten them to increase the rate if needed. Instead of heating and grinding the cut end of the spring I'm thinking of cutting the spacer so it fits snugly on the cut shape of the spring (like how alot of car spring seats are).
Whatever the spring rate is i should get around a 0.06kg/mm spring rate increase roughly per coil i remove. Each coil is 20mm long so i can afford to take a few out if need be. If the rate i'm starting with is indeed 0.75kg/mm then one coil out should give me around 0.81kg/mm, two coils out about 0.87kg/mm. Right in the ballpark of what i want (around 0.9kg/mm, i'm not very heavy)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/TRIUMPH%20FORK%20SPRINGS_zpsucanvqz7.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/TRIUMPH%20FORK%20SPRINGS_zpsucanvqz7.jpg.html)
Ordered a hugger and a belly pan, both from Poland of all places (but the cheapest place i can get them from even incl post)
My girlfriend likes the fairing on my bike more than the mocked up street triple headlight so I've decided to go with the fairing and clip ons. I'll space the fairing out forward and down a little and use Danmoto adjustable clip ons. I can set them at a middle ground height (don't want them heaps low) and make it all work together. I know clip ons will clear the tank cos our track bike has them, i can cut the sides of the fairing down a little if i want to anyways and just respray them. The fairing could do with a respray anyways (it's got a few cracks and scrapes on it). Maybe a double bubble if the fairing ands up quite low so it still does something airflow wise.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51wAAtd1CBL._SY355_.jpg)
I put some barend mirrors on too, they work wel,l do like, when the fairing is moved perhaps the fairing mirrors will work well but for now bar end mirrors are better than looking at my own shoulders on the bike :).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/20150217_183145_zps0uyuiiyp.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/20150217_183145_zps0uyuiiyp.jpg.html)
Measured up the axle holes to make up my own axle sliders, got a fair bit of room, around 11mm hole through the front axle, more like 16mm rear, so M10 threaded rod will fit nicely.
I've done up a quick drawing off my shock mod parts as well, 124mm dog bones to jack the back end up a bit, spring collar to make up the 10mm or so shorter spring that i'm fitting to the R6 shock and collars to adapt the M12 R6 top shock mount to the M8 holes on the FZS600 frame. Got some of the dimensions off here, some off my mate who fitted the R6 shock to our track FZS600 and some i measured up and decided on myself. Use my dimensions at your own risk haha, i've not actually made the parts or fitted them myself yet!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/R6%20SHOCK%20TO%20FZS600%20FITTING%20KIT_zpsmhm9gmiu.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/R6%20SHOCK%20TO%20FZS600%20FITTING%20KIT_zpsmhm9gmiu.png.html)
And finally i'd love one of these....too expensive though :(. Alot too expensive!
(http://www.gimbel-motorradtechnik.de/umbau/fazer_600/f_vh_gr.jpg)
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With the 124 mm dogbones the rear tire may touch the ground on centre stand I think.
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Hope not! I think 127mm is the dogbones length most people use with the r6 shock and not sure how much higher the 124mm bones will make it but hey. But if it does make the wheel touch down there are always a few options. Longer dogbones obviously or just take the centre stand off. It is handy for working on the bike but can always just use stands too. We took the centre stand off the track bike long before it had r6 shock and dogbones, wanted to jack it up high for ground clearance reasons and although on the street there aren't any problems with grounding out the bike at all I like the idea of having the bike track ready and having the same handling as the track bike and stuff.... Logical? Mm perhaps not haha. But we'll see how it goes.
Have you had that issue yourself?
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Have you had that issue yourself?
No, I went with 127 mm ones. It is 3 mm difference which escalates going towards the rear axle. Anyhow please keep us updated, I am curious.
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Will do :).
It'll be interesting to see how much of a difference that 3mm makes. It's hard to gauge through all the linkage and whatnot.
Looking at the centre stand just then it wouldn't be hard to make it slightly longer as well.
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Put together my spare set of fzs600 forks today.
Drilled out the damper rods (4x10mm holes).
Used some triumph Bonneville straight rate springs I got for 99c off ebay.
Calculated the rate of the springs as 0.83kg/mm, which would be perfect for me (70kg) I reckon.... Lucky since I bought the springs just cos.
I've seen the spring rate on the 07 Bonneville stated as 0.77kg/mm, but they are also stated to come with various different forms...so who knows. We'll see how they ride.
Fitted some ebay preload caps.
Cut down the fork tube spacers to take into account the preload caps and the debrix adjusters.
Made a new washer to go between the spring and spacer, since when I took the forks apart it turned out one was missing...
Next up will be painting the fork lowers gold and fitting them to the bike along with the danmoto clip ons.
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And some more maintenance type things today, got a new chain, sprockets, nut and washer, old one was pretty flogged. So started on that (until it turned out my 32mm spanner doesn't have clearance to get the sprocket nut off.... Oh well ill get a socket tomorrow, my tools skip from 22 to 36..annoyingly..).but while I was at it I test fitted my hugger I got from Poland. Fits very nicely, so quite pleased with that at least! Dodgy blurry pics of a filthy bike coming soon... Woo...
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New stuff arrived in the mail :).
Fits quite well. FRP is thick and solid. All from Poland cos it seems to be the cheapest place to get bodywork for this bike (posted to Oz anyways!)
Yup i scribbled over the piece of white styrofoam the belly pan was resting on in the last photo in paint to see what it'd look like on the bike a bit better.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150415_174705_zps4vbgjbfg.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150415_174705_zps4vbgjbfg.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150415_174723_zpsibulmhxz.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150415_174723_zpsibulmhxz.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150415_174736_zpsily8v1cb.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150415_174736_zpsily8v1cb.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/FZS600/20150519_173918_zpsq5ewd7t3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/FZS600/20150519_173918_zpsq5ewd7t3.jpg.html)
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Finished my spare set of forks today. Got to find time to swap them over soon. Fitted a double bubble too.
Forks have debrix emulators, eBay preload adjusters, triumph Bonneville straight rate springs, 15wt oil at 135mm air gap. We'll see how they go soon. Just painted them today, they came up well i think.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/Mobile%20Uploads/20150831_202317_zps35nqcuja.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150831_202317_zps35nqcuja.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/Mobile%20Uploads/20150906_143948_zpsqkrqdlzs.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20150906_143948_zpsqkrqdlzs.jpg.html)
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Looks good unfaired .. although I personally think those headlights are the ugliest Triumph have produced ... .. sorry :/
^^^ This.
IMO Triumph headlights are fugly.
Somebody has posted cafe racer yellow Fazer. Sorry can't find the post. It was with FZ6 light and ha has covered the side fairings gaps with black custom covers slightly curved with Yamaha logos.
The bike was stunning
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I know the picture you're talking about, it does look quite good. Alot of why it looks good (IMHO) is that he's cut the key barrel off and moved it and that's allowed him to put the dash right up against the triples and the light right up against that. Makes the front end look pretty good when it's all compact and doesn't have acres of space between the light and the dash and the dash and the triples.
I still like the triumph light though haha :P.
But i'm actually staying faired now though.
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Finally installed my spare set of forks that I modded.
Debrix emulators, triumph Bonneville straight rate springs, eBay preload adjusters. 15wt oil at 135mm oil height. Spring rate I calculated at somewhere around 0.85kg/mm. I'm only 70kg so it seems right. Feels amazing compared to standard. Most noticeable when cornering fast and braking into corners I reckon. The zip tie around the fork leg tells me I'm using 3/4 of the fork travel with some spirited but not all out riding so seems about right too. I've finally put my drawings into the machine shop at work to have the rear shock swap bits and up for r6 rear swap.
Also primed my belly pan and hugger today and bought some paint to respray the whole bike sans the tank which will do as is.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/Mobile%20Uploads/20151011_132257_zpsppes4gzj.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20151011_132257_zpsppes4gzj.jpg.html)
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Put my r6 rear shock in with my short dog bones.
Bike still gets the back wheel off the ground when it's on the centre stand, so that's good (and some said it might be a concern) All bolted in pretty easily. Longest part was searching the shed for my grease to regrease the bearings while I had it apart...but 45 minutes later gave up, next time...
Had to bend a little piece of bracketry on the frame to clear the shock, but only a few mm.
No test ride yet.
Settings to start with are:
650lb/in 6" spring (from memory)
10mm spring spacer
124mm dog bones
Top hat spacers to take the frame top hole down to 10mm
Preload ramp at least preload
High speed damper 3 turns from hard
Low speed damper 16 clicks from hard
Rebound damper 14 clicks from hard
Settings from kebab, I don't actually know what I'm doing yet haha!
The swap is pretty much the usual one everyone on here has done for anyone wondering. Nothing special apart from my choosing shorter dog bones.
Not ridden it yet, tomorrow!
Pics later.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v471/Nebuchernezzer/20151026_180952_zpsxm5fb9i2.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Nebuchernezzer/media/20151026_180952_zpsxm5fb9i2.jpg.html)
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Fitted my Poland belly pan. Was a bit of stuffing about to get it to fit without the stand hitting it but got it pretty good on the end.
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Looking good
Not sure about the Gold forks though :eek
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Looks very clean. good work
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Very nice :)
More importantly, how does she ride?
Just realised from reading the thread your suspension front & back is virtually identical to mine.
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Looking very nice fella. For me, the gold forks work well :thumbup
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Looking very nice fella. For me, the gold forks work well :thumbup
As you ride a CBF1000 you obviously have know idea re style :b :b :b
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I'm quite pleased with my gold forks, but it does seem to be a love it or hate it colour scheme. Overall i think when i paint my spare swingarm black and put that on (and respray all the faded red plastics) it'll look great! :) . I was worried i'd have too much red with the red hugger but i'm happy i went with red now.
Kebab, i'm very pleased with my fork setup, i need to twiddle with the R6 shock, i've not set the sag yet though so really i've just set the clickers, whacked it in and off i went.
It's better than the standard shock naturally, but it's got a little bit too much rebound i think.
Hard to tell since i've not done much suspension setup but i'll set my sag, twiddle around and hopefully learn something along the way!
Anyway basically it's the same suspension setup as yours cos i copied it from you haha :P.
Painting my TRX front wheel this weekend so i can get some new tyres (the pilot road 2 on the back is stuffed now), going to try pilot road 4s all round.
It's not nearly as clean as the photos make it look, but hopefully one day it will be! :)
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Golds a bit marmite, just never worked for me, maybe get someone to photoshop the swingarm gold too.
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Coming along nicely. Maybe could do with a splash of gold towards the rear to balance the colour out a bit?
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Looking very nice fella. For me, the gold forks work well :thumbup
As you ride a CBF1000 you obviously have know idea re style :b :b :b
:foc At least I don't have a zimmer frame holding my feckin screen up :pokefun
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Looking very nice fella. For me, the gold forks work well :thumbup
As you ride a CBF1000 you obviously have know idea re style :b :b :b
:foc At least I don't have a zimmer frame holding my feckin screen up :pokefun
I don't have a screen fuc u very much :b
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So ya stuffed it then right :nana
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So ya stuffed it then right :nana
No brought a damaged repairable, never liked the look of the stock fazers fairing so was either going to sell it of find one without that fugly piece of plastic stuck on the front.
Taken mucho work and thought to make the bloody thing look good without the plastics but thats part of the fun
Of course you'd struggle to make that Honda look good coz Stevie Wonder was the chief designer :eek
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Can't argue with the CBF looks, it's not what I'd call cool or sexy and definitely not a good looking bike :'( Does my commuting though.
Was actually referring to the screen frame on the ZX9......or have I got the wrong model in mind.
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Wrong model :lol
Fugly and a little souless or not, you can't fault Hondas build quality. Only had one, a VF500 when I passed my test, brilliant bike if a little expensive on servicing. Just never found anything else after that that caught my eye, well RC30 maybe but look at the price tag
Seem to have gone slightly off topic
Yeah gold swing arm for colour balance...... :D
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I think you've done some great work there well done. From the picture if I was you I'd do the side rad covers red and the swing arm and front forks black. You'd have a nice balance between red and black then which is always a great colour combo. But if you want the gold go for it
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Ok, I admit i'm shit with paint but had a go at "balancing" the gold by painting the rear hangers. Think doing the rear arm would be too much. Thoughts?
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Ok, I admit i'm shit with paint but had a go at "balancing" the gold by painting the rear hangers. Think doing the rear arm would be too much. Thoughts?
It helps but now the swingarm looks out of place
Poor lad, took all that time to spray his bits gold and now were all pulling it down (sorry that was suppose to say giving constructive criticism)
Dont take any notice of us winging poms
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Ok, I admit i'm shit with paint but had a go at "balancing" the gold by painting the rear hangers. Think doing the rear arm would be too much. Thoughts?
It helps but now the swingarm looks out of place
Poor lad, took all that time to spray his bits gold and now were all pulling it down (sorry that was suppose to say giving constructive criticism)
Dont take any notice of us winging poms
I was happy with just the forks, it's the rest of yous :lol . Gold chain ??
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I've got gold rim tapes, i think the gold swingarm would be too much and i couldn't justify spending more on a chain just because it was gold haha! :P
I painted the wheels black over the weekend (yes they are already black, but the front one is about to be a TRX wheel, and it was blue) and after the clear has set enough, perhaps later in the week we'll see how gold tapes go.
I think the balance of red is good, i have considered painting all the silver bits on radiator and end of the cam covers black but perhaps not.
Do some more paintbrushing :P.
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Trx front wheel, standard rear, new bearings an seals, pilot road 4s (120/70, 160/60 rear) and gold rim tapes. Sprayed the wheels only a week ago but they didn't get chipped too much or anything during the fit up of the tyres so all good! :)
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Trx front wheel, standard rear, new bearings an seals, pilot road 4s (120/70, 160/60 rear) and gold rim tapes. Sprayed the wheels only a week ago but they didn't get chipped too much or anything during the fit up of the tyres so all good! :)
A set of stainless steel disc bolts would finish them off nicely, only M8 button heads. Replaced all mine and a few other bolts for a fiver
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Hrmm, not a bad idea, and i have some of those bolts with me at work (the original yamaha ones) so i have a size to go off with getting replacements on the way home before i fit the wheels.
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I've sprayed my disc centres black to make sure the new bolts stand out. Anal I know but another piece of contrast
Like the rim tape, even if they are gold lol
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Got myself some nice shiny new disc bolts, some loctite for them and some thread sealer for my fork tops which are insisting on weeping right now.
And one day i'll get a photo of the bike with the wheels on...i think it looks great (apart from that it's filthy!)
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Took a photo of the bike with the wheels on finally.
It's pretty damn filthy right now but the photo hides that haha!
Random little things need fixing now.
Grips are coming loose (heated grips, superglued on)
Forks weep but i bought some thread sealer at least (at the top)
Got to give the chain a good clean and lube.
Left footpeg is all loose and wobbly.
*edit* fixed the grips and the footpeg when i got home, took like 3 minutes.
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Nice lookin' machine, well done boss
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Thanks mate :).
Did a few things on the weekend:
Checked the travel on the front forks, i had the forks pushed through the triples 10mm with my previous front wheel (standard wheel with 110/70 PR2), the TRX wheel and 120/70 tyre i have now on there now is taller and raises the nose a bit, it changed the handling a little and i didn't like it.
Turns out i have clearance to drop the forks 20mm through the triples and after a test ride it feels good like that!
My front travel is 100mm to bottomed out, got some photos attached of the clearance (photos taken with the forks pushed through 10mm on the triples and the springs etc taken out).
I reset my front oil height to 130mm from 135mm just to stiffen it up a little as it goes through the travel.
I sealed my front forks caps with hydraulic thread sealer, they were weeping before.
I fitted my R1 fork blanking plates, which means i can put the mirror support pieces back in behind my fairing....no more wobbly fairing at speed! Will paint them red later when i spray the fairing etc (bit of spray putting will fill in the R1 logos haha)
Cut down my rear mudguard. Moved the numberplate up over the reflector area and just cut off everything below. I'd like to make it slimmer again later when i change my indicators out to slim ones. Probably have it so just the plastic tray holding the CDI is left and the numberplate will mount of a small metal angle mounted through where the reflector was.
Cleaned the chain with kero.
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Last two pics are the bike as it sits with the forks lowered 20mm.
Pics before that are springs out with the front dumped onto the stops.
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Measured up the clamps on my danmoto adjustable clip ons this morning. The clamps that go around the fork legs are 24mm thick/high (whatever you want to call it).
I have 20mm of fork tube above the triples plus 2mm of thickness for the top cap.
Basically i feel i have enough room to try out the clipons above the top triple, which on a fazer is probably the best place for them if you want to keep the fairing (which i do).
It'll be a good intermediate riding position (i'm hoping!), while not being too nose down (i'm hoping!) :P.
Not sure if i'll push the forks through another few mm to get 24mm above the triples, i'll probably go down the route of just milling a few mm off the danmoto clip on clamp instead though.
Mounting perhaps will end up like this bike.
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Wrong model :lol
Fugly and a little souless or not, you can't fault Hondas build quality. Only had one, a VF500 when I passed my test, brilliant bike if a little expensive on servicing. Just never found anything else after that that caught my eye, well RC30 maybe but look at the price tag
Seem to have gone slightly off topic
Yeah gold swing arm for colour balance...... :D
Unless it's had a later F model mirror/clock bracket fitted your E should have the H-bar bracket holding the mirrors up, same as on the old fireblades? Binned mine personally and put the F bracket on, huge visual improvement IMO!
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Exactly what I have done here in the uk but I have stuck to uk plate laws and it look like your laws or the amount of numbers on the plate result in a smaller plate than here in the uk
Yours
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15720.0;attach=22308;image)
Mine
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18821.0;attach=22219;image)
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Yeah we don't have the crazy large plates, mine is a bit old and ratty looking and is in the generic state colour from about 10+ years ago so at some point the plate will go in the bin and i'll replace it with a red/black or black/gold one to match the rest of the bike. Size will remain the same, that's the only size available for the bike.
Rego numbers don't stay with vehicles for their life here (they do in the UK don't they?) and depending on which state of Australia you're in the options and details of personalised plates are pretty extensive :) .
As for the side view it's slim enough for now, if i was staying with large indicators i'd keep it as it is, and it took minimum time to mod it like that. But i'd like it to be just the numberplate and by necessity the CDI box being visible from the side when i'm done, the indicators tucked up high on minimal bits of plastic and the gap between the wheel and the tail being more or less free of anything.
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I'm in the middle of drawing a numberplate bracket that will be wrapped around and bolt to both sides of the CDI tray with the rear of the bracket that the number plate fixes to at 45 deg. Bit of an over kill maybe but should look a lot neater than a bracket bolted directly to the rear of the tray
Hopefully it'll look factory fitted when finished
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Yeah that'd be pretty neat.
I was thinking with the bracket on the rear of the tray that it'd be pretty much hidden by the numberplate and would essentialy just be there to give the numberplate a bit of upwards angle relative to the vertical (ish) rear of the CDI tray.
But having a bracket going down the sides of the CDI tray could also pick up the indicators and look pretty neat.
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Yeah that'd be pretty neat.
I was thinking with the bracket on the rear of the tray that it'd be pretty much hidden by the numberplate and would essentialy just be there to give the numberplate a bit of upwards angle relative to the vertical (ish) rear of the CDI tray.
But having a bracket going down the sides of the CDI tray could also pick up the indicators and look pretty neat.
(http://s19.postimg.org/rftfycv1v/WP_20151127_004.jpg)
(http://s19.postimg.org/by5xunokz/WP_20151127_012.jpg)
(http://s19.postimg.org/vqipv367n/WP_20151129_002.jpg)
My indicator brackets, they're so small I didn't need anything substantial to mount them to
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I'm looking at somthing similarly small. Was wondering if I should bore a hole in the outer plastic and mount my indicators through the cdi tray plastic itself. Saves me having to leave 'tags' on the outside for them. Depends on if they can be seen around the numberplate of course though if I do that!
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A black plate would be good but the plate laws in this country are explicit with regards to the font and the height and the thickness of the letters and although some plates have less letters and numbers the min size of the plate is a fixed size, so the plate that I have is the smallest it can be - even if it had less numbers.
So like you I have cut my guard down to the same size of the plate I saw no point in cutting away what the plate is covering, I am looking forward to seeing how jobloggs looks when it is done.
Here is mine from the side
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18821.0;attach=22281;image)
And slightly from the front and also a photoshopped version with more guard cut and the luggage tie removed
(http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=18821.0;attach=22283;image)
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They have height and letter requirements?
So you can make your own plate if it complies?
We just buy ours as is. If they offer it in red we can have red, if they offer it with palm trees all over it we can have that haha!
https://www.ppq.com.au/our-range (https://www.ppq.com.au/our-range)
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They have height and letter requirements?
Yep that right - they HAVE to be certain height AND thickness AND font, also the plate has to be a minimum size (mine is that)
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Took my belly pan off and lined it with heat tape today, just as insurance against cooking the frp or the paintwork from the inside out :).
And the brackets I made for the belly pan too, if anyone gets the same pan in future I have dimensions for what I made.
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Got some LED indicators for Xmas so put them on today and further trimmed the tail. Will make a bracket to mount the numberplate a bit differently perhaps but it's good for now.
Bike still filthy haha.
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(http://s19.postimg.org/67qgt5bn7/WP_20151222_005.jpg)
(http://s19.postimg.org/vrsqzkx0z/WP_20151222_002.jpg)
My shorty rear guard.
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Looks good, I'm considering doing something very similar to mine based on how yours looks :).
When I go back to work and have some metal handy. Until then I'm pleased with how. It is though. :)
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It fits better than it looks in the pics (bottom one) just loosely fitted it as it needs powder coating
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It looks like it fits well.
I've not cut the outer part of the plastic off (I think you did?) but I've got an idea for a folded metal section that fits with how I've cut mine and is held on by using the indicators to hold it on the sides and an extra bolt at the rear that will be covered by the numberplate when it's all done.
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Yours does look slightly different although its hard to tell from the pics you've posted. TBH you may have saved yourself some extra work as I will have to somehow seal the cdi tray or prevent water from spraying up through a couple of holes that such drastic cutting created
Being able to use such a small number plate also gives youi more options
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Yeah no holes in my cdi tray except the ones for the wiring that already existed and also some tiny extra ones I added for my wiring re route. It probably wouldn't be a massive deal if some water got in anyway though, the plugs are pretty solid and various other wiring etc on the bike gets soaked all the time.
The smaller number plate is great compared to that billboard you guys get. I'm glad I live in Queensland now where I can get a variety of colours for a reasonable (ish) price unlike new south Wales... Red and black will be the colour choice sometime soonish... Or perhaps black and gold hrmm..
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Many people used to cut their plates down or have small ones made but police really anal about them now. Shame they can't put more effort into catching real criminals
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Bought a smoked led tail light from Germany to match my new smoked led indicators. IMHO it looks great. Just put it on, will get a pic tomorrow.
One thing I've noticed from led tails is how fast the brake lights come on. I put led tail lights in my silvia, just had one in for comparison and put your foot on the brake and the difference is very noticeable speed wise. Will it make a difference in the real world? Maybe, who knows, can't hurt!
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Pic
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I have a scaled down number plate, but also have a questionably illegal unbaffled exhaust too, so weighed the odds and put the legit number plate back on to fend off the plod.
Do i really give a shit about a number plate i can't see when filtering traffic going to work? No, not really!
It's a bit like having a mullet for a barnet, you can't see it yourself so it's not really there. :lol
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Apologies to Nebuchernezzer if you sport a fantastic looking mullet, i know they're the in thing in Oz :smokin
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Nah rats tails are the go if you want the real westy bogan look now :P
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Bike looks really good fella, like what you've done.
Given any thought to replacing the rear grab rail with the later plastic type as in link below?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Yamaha-fazer-600-rear-grab-rail-/262235356283?hash=item3d0e71fc7b:g:Gw8AAOSwa-dWk6es (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Yamaha-fazer-600-rear-grab-rail-/262235356283?hash=item3d0e71fc7b:g:Gw8AAOSwa-dWk6es)
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Thanks mate :)
I actually would like to remove the rail entirely and fill the holes in the tail and respray it. My missus doesn't use the rail anyway. I'd also love one of these single seat units but I can't really justify the price...
Its 199 euro plus postage which ends up being like 400 aud in the end :/
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw0UUWsNjOTlnwKgCeaeq39sUDqmjJGrUjP3dBFnwJ8hCDB3PU)
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Thanks mate :)
I actually would like to remove the rail entirely and fill the holes in the tail and respray it. My missus doesn't use the rail anyway. I'd also love one of these single seat units but I can't really justify the price...
Its 199 euro plus postage which ends up being like 400 aud in the end :/
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSw0UUWsNjOTlnwKgCeaeq39sUDqmjJGrUjP3dBFnwJ8hCDB3PU)
I had one of those seat cowls for a short time but quickly sold it on because it just looked crap/wrong/obvious/out of place/bolted on/big, fat.Pictures from the manufacturer look good but its just in real life in different angles it wasn't right.
Yes rather than swap the grab rail when I took it off to fit the cowl I never put it back and stuck some round discs over the holes made out of a sheet of sticky back plastic and you hardly see them
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Makes me feel better about not being able to afford it then haha!
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Bikes looking good Bruce
I'm sorting my grabrail holes as we speak, not divulging how yet as its top secret :D
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Bikes looking good Bruce
I'm sorting my grabrail holes as we speak, not divulging how yet as its top secret :D
I recon that its going to be one of these in each hole
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Bikes looking good Bruce
I'm sorting my grabrail holes as we speak, not divulging how yet as its top secret :D
I recon that its going to be one of these in each hole
Hmmmmmm wonder why fazersharp has images of but plugs on his pc.....
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Bikes looking good Bruce
I'm sorting my grabrail holes as we speak, not divulging how yet as its top secret :D
I recon that its going to be one of these in each hole
Hmmmmmm wonder why fazersharp has images of but plugs on his pc.....
I didn't say what it was as I didn't know, you are the one who know what it is somehow
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One of those butt plugs shoved up the orifice in the end of your Akrapovic will certainly quieten it down.
:eek
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You should get one Fazersharp it will give you something to grip on to when corning really hard :rollin
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One of those strategically placed you would be able to do away with the grab rail and would be a real advantage when cornering really really hard.
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What are you doing to my thread! :P
Differences between modding in Oz compared to UK? :P
Only new mod is scraping some of the paint off my belly pan at full (well not even actually, pegs weren't nearly on the ground) lean... Will have to add an extra hole and bracket to tuck the left side of it up more I think..
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Washed the bike yesterday. I've just fitted a seat cover cos the vinyl on the seat started cracking (good old australian sun) and some tank grip.
The paint on the fairing and tail is progressively fading but I'll get around to respraying those two bits sometime.
And took the bike for a ride up some mountains near Brisbane at sunset yesterday too. A bit different to the scenery you probably usually see on this forum haha.