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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Rexr on 12 January 2015, 12:42:33 pm

Title: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: Rexr on 12 January 2015, 12:42:33 pm
Well there's one thing u can rely on with Yamaha and that's their shite quality standard disc bolts, I think their made of fecking cheese and why use different ones on the back (in fact beefier ones on the back) where's the fecking sense, I can see the drills coming out this week, if the heat and torx bits don't work........rant over for now lol ggggrrrrrr.........:(
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: slimwilly on 12 January 2015, 07:10:32 pm
So is it worth attempting to take mine out,57 plate FZ1s , to refit then and know they will move ????
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: JoeRock on 12 January 2015, 07:52:32 pm
So is it worth attempting to take mine out,57 plate FZ1s , to refit then and know they will move ????


Yes. But don't try it without an impact bolt. Probably worth replacing them with titanium whilst you're at it - about £35 a full set off eBay!
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: slimwilly on 12 January 2015, 08:10:47 pm
OK, there's a challenge, oh and any reccomendations on refitting, i.e ,,dry..with grease,,threadlock , paint ?
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: JoeRock on 12 January 2015, 09:18:09 pm
OK, there's a challenge, oh and any reccomendations on refitting, i.e ,,dry..with grease,,threadlock , paint ?


If you do get titanium, i'd definitely recommend some copper grease, otherwise they will dry weld themselves to your wheel, and you'll never get the bastards out. Just a little bit, and make sure if you torque them up you drop about 30% off the torque value to account for the grease!


Then just check them every now and again - I've never had any come loose due to the above, but better late than sorry!
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: Rexr on 13 January 2015, 12:07:44 am
So is it worth attempting to take mine out,57 plate FZ1s , to refit then and know they will move ????


Yes. But don't try it without an impact bolt. Probably worth replacing them with titanium whilst you're at it - about £35 a full set off eBay!

The rears came out nae bother and I've got a full set of titanium to replace them......I had the same issues with my xjr.......
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: Tmation on 13 January 2015, 04:06:16 am
You should use a semi permanent thread lock when fitting disc bolts, not copper grease. If you buy new Yamaha ones you will see some blue stuff in the threads, I can't remember the loctite equivalent off the top of my head.



Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: JoeRock on 13 January 2015, 12:47:46 pm
You should use a semi permanent thread lock when fitting disc bolts, not copper grease. If you buy new Yamaha ones you will see some blue stuff in the threads, I can't remember the loctite equivalent off the top of my head.

And that's the stuff that locks down hard over time and makes them a right bugger to get out!
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: fazer390 on 13 January 2015, 01:40:55 pm
I've spent the last 2 weekends stripping, polishing and painting my wheels on my gen 1. Surprisingly I didn't get any real problems removing the disc bolts; I was obviously lucky...
 
I have replaced them however with Stainless bolts from Ebay knowing I'd get issues with the old cheese bolts in the future!
 
Getting new tyres fitted this afternoon and I can't wait to get the wheels back on the bike later... :-)
 
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: Rexr on 13 January 2015, 03:04:45 pm
Well with a bit of heat they came out very easy (bang in a torx bit take it back out and heat the bolt up for about 30 seconds and insert the torx bit and undo.... :) )
Title: Re: Shite quality disc bolts
Post by: Tmation on 13 January 2015, 06:40:34 pm
The front and rears come out easy with a bit of heat and an impact wrench, you need that to break/soften the loctite.


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