Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
General => General => Topic started by: red98 on 02 November 2014, 05:41:19 pm
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One for the old foccers.......how many of us had 250's on L plates,70's early 80's.....I think the law changed in 82, then it was a puny 125cc, cant think why :rolleyes....me,a suzuki GT250 X7, brand new in 1981....the first production 250 to crack 100 mph :D
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Yep I was around in them days ..GSX250 L plates and for myself just when they started faffing with 2 part tests so was a scooter wheel with bit of box iron and couple of door hinges and flappy mudguard n light on it and hey presto classed as a sidecar so only had to take part two pf the test..passed first time with this amazing scooter wheel sidecar that bashed the hell out of ya shins when tackling the twisties..screamed home with biggest grin ever on me face and ripped the bouncy scooter wheel off the side in half a hour to be passed on to a mate to do the same think most of us did it the homemade sidewinder way..
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yep remember them days passed my test 2 days before law changed to 125 on one of these
and test took 20 mins with tester on foot :lol
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Ah yes....my mate had a sidewinder on a yam RD 350 LC, still on L plates :lol......cant understand why they changed the rules :rolleyes
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yep remember them days passed my test 2 days before law changed to 125 on one of these
and test took 20 mins with tester on foot :lol
ooooooo.....yam DT125MX....nice bike, had the 175 version, great fun off road....
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jesus I remeber sidewinder :eek :eek old mate of mine passed test with one on his bike
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ooooooo.....yam DT125MX....nice bike, had the 175 version, great fun off road....
Its 175 I had and past test on
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ooooooo.....yam DT125MX....nice bike, had the 175 version, great fun off road....
Its 175 I had and past test on
Oooooops...sorry steve,mis read your post :o.....great bikes, going to have look on ebay, see what I can find :rolleyes
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Scary thing is went to VJMC at stoke and how many of the bikes I had back in the day are classed as classics now
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Scary thing is went to VJMC at stoke and how many of the bikes I had back in the day are classed as classics now
Just about every bike I've owned! Soon to be gen 1 :faz 1000 too :D If I still had them all, I'd be minted :\
Missed out on 250s on L plates myself; made up for it by going from CB100N to 750 Turbo soon as I passed my test. Took the turbo round the cones about a week after passing too; many jealous looks from the instructors :D :lol
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Passed my test on a RD250 in 1975, then progessed to a GT380, GT550, CB750 then marriage, kids and lack of funds put me back on a GSX250 , then a GS125, CB400/4, CBX550 then improved funding got me a GSXR750.Since then I have had countless bikes swopping and changing every six months until saw sense and got a VFR750, then Thundercat, ZXR1100, gen1 Fazer 1000 for six years longest I have ever kept a bike, now a gen2 FZ1.
But I would still love a 70's stoker again, but prices for anything decent are a bit daft now.
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My mate owned/rode a GPZ 1100r at age of 16 years old on L plates back in 1986
At the same 16 years of age I had/owned a X7 250 / DR 400 / MTX 200 on L plates
At 14 year old I had KM100 and at 15 years old I had s RXS 100..
The laws for bike licences has totally changed over here now..Back then you could have 100cc at 14 and unlimited cc at 16... ;)
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just missed the cut off for that so had a gp125 and passed test on that with tester on foot.It was either going to be that or a kwak KH125 but the Gp came along first
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GP100,just before Christmas 1987,tester on foot.I've heard it said that it was the release of the RD250lc that prompted a change in the law?.
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I took my test in 87 on a Yamaha XS750 with a sidewinder attached. I had a Kwaka KE125 at the time but couldn't be arsed with doing the Part 1 they had introduced by then.
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I took my test in 1984, I had a Honda cb125t which I took my test on, I had to do the 2 part test, I did the silver star rider course which made a big difference.
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yep moved up from a vespa ss 180 to an x7 in i think 79 as i had it whilst in the navy and i left in 1980.The throttle was like an on/off switch after the scooter haha.
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Yep Passed me test on a CB250RS , then jumped straight to an XJ550
What goes around comes around though , currently using a very clean CB250RS as my commuter
.Honda build quality from the early eighties really was exceptional its 30 odd years old with 38k on it and its in better nick than some 3 year old modern Hondas
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Yep, I have an RD250B in 1979. Picked it up on my 17th birthday. After the Fs1e the performance was mind blowing :rollin
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I had a Blue one
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My one was a blue one , the faster model, believe it or not that wee bugger would hit 60 mph
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I did my test on a Honda 50 Sprint in 1965, it was classed as motorcycle as no pedals, within 12 months I was throwing a Triumph Bonneville about like a fecking idiot.
As you can see still afecking idiot how do I delete that lot as cannot open it :eek
:eek Go into "modify" on your post, highlight all that code, and hit delete button.
I'm doing far too much reminiscing at the moment; can't be good for me! :lol
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At 16 I rode a Suzuki AP50, unrestricted, pedels locked in place as footrests, topped out about 50! Saw one at the Stafford bike show fully restored asking just under £3k for it!
On my 17th birthday I got a Kawasaki KH250 triple, rode it for a couple of months on L's then passed my test on it. The test was a ride around the roads near the test centre with an examiner watching with a clipboard.... those were the days! Then a month or so later I got a Honda CB550/4 super sport. Wish I had kept this now as I never see any around, plenty of 400/4's still around.
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My 'L' plate bike i passed test on was an early RD200, brilliant little bikes . Mainly had RD Yamahas until kids came along, then it was mainly big Honda 4's. Apart from some ZX9Rs, Kawasaki and Suzuki never got a look-in.
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I rode an XL185 in 84 on L plates and no decals on the bike (pretended the law hadn't changed :lol )
Then the year later now in the RAF in Norfolk went half's with a mate on RD400E and still rode it on my provisional licence
I was such a bad ass lol
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My brother did the 250 test. Bought himself a Superdream. Mug! :lol
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GP100,just before Christmas 1987,tester on foot.I've heard it said that it was the release of the RD250lc that prompted a change in the law?.
I think it was the death toll of young riders that caused the law to change, however most of the ones I knew who died had passed their test? that's the one where you rode round the block for 10 minuets answered a few questions and that was it.
At least now you get some training, we oldies just have Darwinism to get through it?
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Anyone seen this month's copy of "Bike"? 500th issue, proper trip down memory lane! Fazer thou gen 1 gets a very brief mention under the banner "Wow"! Wheelie king :D
Nice mention for the gen 2 as well (again, very brief). But loads of bits from old mags, many copies of which I had. Love the bit about the turbo bikes - confirms I had the only one worth having, and sums it up nicely. There really hasn't ever been another production bike quite like it :D
My first issue was August 1980, the one with the Italian 500s comparison test - see the pic of the Montjuic rider removing his brain through the top of his helmet; and this mag was a major influence on my approach to biking! :eek :evil :lol
And they're at it again; article about a Rocket III with supercharger... :think I know, I'm easily led astray :eek :evil :b :lol
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Hit the road at 16 on a Portuguese Casal moped. Was a weird one that and I remember the speedo started from the top right hand corner and went round the bottom instead of the top, I think. Would read over 60 mph though but spent more time off the road in bits
as it kept blowing up.
Passed my test and had my first accident on a GP 100.
Then bought a RD 350 Powervalve in 1983.
Oh the memories.
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the whole reason im into bikes is i joined the post office/Royal mail as a Telegram boy so had to get around on a bloody puch maxi 50cc thing ( sadly not the BSA bantam 175's of 'back in the day' ),passed my 50cc test in summer 1981 ( not sure if that was an offical test or a PO test to be honest ? )i brought a suzuki TS 125 ( old original 'P' reg ) and id do the telegrams on that untill the head of wentworth golf course reported me :lol ,id of probably not bothered doing another test but a bloke started working on the post who had a 750 something or other,he took me out on it up to the bike show at Earls court and i was hooked,passed the new 2 part test in febuary 1983,did the part 1 at Catford and passed part 2 in the pissing rain/dark/cold in that wonderful town of slough,instructor on foot the miserable jock wayne kerr :)
sadly all my photo's of my early bikes are at my mums house up in leafy berkshire,im up there this weekend,i must bring them home and add to this classic bike topic 8)
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Anyone seen this month's copy of "Bike"? 500th issue, proper trip down memory lane! Fazer thou gen 1 gets a very brief mention under the banner "
And they're at it again; article about a Rocket III with supercharger..
500th issue............ I bought the first one, and still got it?
sorry about the crap image?
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can't delete the other photo but this one should be better?
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FS1E-DX in 77, RD250C in 78 Hospital bed 79, H0^$a CB200 in 80
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I have a stealth question for all the old farts please (ie everyone on this thread :b )
What is it about the Yamaha RD350?........why "did" you like it so much & if yamaha made a brand new one.........would you trade in your current bikes and have one instead?......or would it spoil your pissy mattress dreams :D .
Obviously im not really asking the big touring types but rather the average weekend rider types.
That is all
Here's a pic incase yous have all forgotten since the start of your last memory this morning.
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Noggy, in it's Day it was the latest cutting edge technology incorporated into a lightweight 2 stroke machine that would trouble even the fastest machines of the era up to 100 mph +
Most of us had been forced to ride restricted 125's and for many this was the first real taste of power and speed that gave you the ultimate adrenalin rush.
They were also so tunable with many having Stan Stephens stage tuning and that unmistakable sound of after market expansion chambers screaming past while having its neck well and truly rung.
I can almost smell it now. 8)
Or is that wee? :lol
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So hard to describe to someone who's ridden nothing like it.
Think of the image that KTM have promoted with the 1290 SDR. Well, that's the kind of image the 350LC and perhaps to a slightly lesser degree, the YPVS 350 had. And well deserved! It may have been smaller, far less power than the big KTM, but those strokers just took off when they hit the power. That's what it was all about! And they were very simple bikes mechanically. Everyone did their own strip downs and rebuilds, replacing worn out pistons and rings and the like, and as Dazza says, loads of people took them to guys like Stan The Man for tuning, to get even more of that addictive buzz. They really were like a drug.
There was a kind of gang mentality to it all. In days of no speed cameras, when if the law wanted to bust you, they'd have to catch you first, there was a real hooligan element involved. Total bike anarchy! And everyone wore Doc Martens or trainers, bomber jackets and jeans - no one gave a foc about safety, Kevlar and CE armour were unheard of.
Compared to todays bikes, they were evil handling, with skinny, wobbly chassis and foc all brakes to mention, which doubled the thrill of launching them at the horizon. The old LC Pro Am racing is still, in my memory, some of the best racing there has ever been; all knees and elbows, fairing bashing and ungentlemanly fighting for position.
But we hadn't known much better. That was just how bikes were back then. The big improvements started to really come in the mid 80s, when frames got stronger and suspension got adjustable.
Today, bikes are all strangled by emissions requirements. All these snatchy throttles - they don't have to be that way, it's just the manufacturers are restricted in what they can do. Everything now is too refined, too slick and smooth. Back then, things were raw and uncompromised. And the Yam strokers were the epitome of it all. You could have a small bike and still have fun. And yeah, the great smell of Castrol Rrrrrrrrrrrrr!
The loss of the 2stroke is the worst thing that ever happened to bikes. Long may the memories live!
Think me colostomy bag has split :\
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Amen
I remember being challenged to a race when I strayed out of my territory by someone on an rd 250 lc
I was on the powervalve
Needless to say I beat him.
The next week he had fitted 350 barrels that had been tweeked and this time he just had the edge on me.
As Nick says this was the fun of it, making them go as fast as you could.
And don't get me started on the Castrol rrrrr.
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I had a 350 LC, and at the time it was the most barking bike you could get. If you had an LC then you were the man....then I went through a succession of Kawasaki triples, a TZR V Twin, TZR reverse cylinder, a road legal CR500.......Until I bought an RG500.
I pity younger riders because they did not get to experience the sheer lunacy of two strokes, They were more addictive than crack cocaine (& probably killed more people too)
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Im feeling the love for these RD350, yous have painted the image well there.
But back to the question of having one now.......if they rolled outta the factory tomorrow....albeit with slightly wider tyres and some fazer brakes..........would you ditch your current bikes and have one instead?.
I've been reading a few reviews about a certain new bike and many of the reviewers are drawing parallels to the RD 8)
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Give up my :faz ? Never!
But if they did resurrect the 2 stroke, and it was good, then yeah, I'd have to try to scrape the money together. But it would have to be good, and no stupid pricing. I guess there is a fair bit of rose-tinted specs syndrome here, but they were fun. Also, I think some of it is about the context of the days in which it happened. But can anyone really go back when the years have taken their toll? I'd have a damn good try! :lol
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If they started producing big 2 strokes again, then yes, without a doubt I would have one. An up to date version of the KH750....YES PLEASE!
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Something like this would do me :b
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/kawasaki-cafe-racer-1-625x625_zps5208f391.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/kawasaki-cafe-racer-1-625x625_zps5208f391.jpg.html)
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b550/nicknicklxs/kawasaki-cafe-racer-4-625x625_zpsbc65c967.jpg) (http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/nicknicklxs/media/kawasaki-cafe-racer-4-625x625_zpsbc65c967.jpg.html)
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That would do the job!!!
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I've been reading a few reviews about a certain new bike and many of the reviewers are drawing parallels to the RD 8)
But it ain't a stroker Noggy! It won't be the same thing at all :(
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My first bike was a Honda XL250S, it was 'V' reg and i got it in '81, as soon as i was 17. Passing my test in late '81, mainly just to get rid of the big flappy 'L' plate. I totally abused that bike, never having heard of mechanical sympathy and would regularly ride id down the beach when the tide was out. When i changed to oil it was speckly with all the Ally that the flapping Cam chain had removed as it carved a new route. How it never came off I'll never know.
Next came my X7. I bought it off a friend who's Dad work on the oil rigs in Libya, more money than sense. He'd seized it within 5 months and I bought it off him. A local motorcross shop did the Big ends and slightly tuned it for me with some mild porting work, Boyeson reed valves and Micron exhausts. It was so loud, my parents could hear me coming home late at night from miles away. I could have the heads off and barrels replace the Small ends, pistons and rings and have it back together in under an hour, with Tea breaks and a few fag breaks too. So easy to work on. I sold that to a mate and bought a Stan tuned RD400E from a guy who had raced it, When i bought it he had just put the Tank and plastic stuff back on and it looked brand new. It rode around town like crap, no bottom end so i was always revving it to stop it bogging down, i was lucky ever to get above 15 MPG But as soon as the road opened up there was nothing that could keep with it. I seized that up going flat out on the motorway, luckily pulling the clutch in and saving any big damage. Once apart you could see how Ported the pistons were
After that was my RD350LC, after the 400 i realized what a smooth running and handling should be like. A friend who was a copper rode it, his daily ride was a BMW R100 Police bike, afterwards he realized why he was never going to catch anyone again. He couldn't believe the power once it got going, and of course the lightness compared to his Police bike.
On some of my later 4 strokes I'd put a capful of 'R' in with my petrol. I must go and buy a bottle? Just for a whiff of nostalgia.
Mickey
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Boyeson reed valves
Did you open the reed stops out by a few mil? ;)
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Am going to get a 350lc when i can afford it, won't be for a year and a bit though. An example of what these bikes do for older riders is a mate who is minted but tight, bought a Kawasaki 400S3 for sale that he had from new & was £4700 in a shop. He does ride it but mainly is an ornament in his living room. When there was a F(Formula)2 race series in the eighties that had 2stroke 350's against 600 4stroke twins, the 350 had to be a road engine but could highly tuned and housed in a pukka TZ race chassis. I remember one example in the isle of man that was a non powervalve lc was clocked at the Highlander at something like 175mp. An lc, tzr or whatever even quite standard but well set up with decent tyres would give a good account of itself down a twisty road, probably most bikes would just get in it's way.
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There was a 350LC for sale at the Stafford show. Can't remember the mileage, something around 20k I think. Little bit shabby on the finish, but all original, nothing broken that I could see. If it was a runner, just needed some tlc, £2650. I lingered over it for quite a while. Hmmm, do I regret not at least finding out more? Oh yes, I certainly do!
Someone please lock this thread, it's too bloody dangerous :lol
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Rd350 YPVS 1986 = for me:
First time 100mph
First time 120mph
First time street cred
First time women ;) ;) x lots
First time banned (x3)
Thats why i still have one :rollin :rollin :rollin
Mark :)
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I did have a short phase about 12 years ago, got a TZR250 for trackdays and another one for the road. Loads of fun while it lasted, the road 250 was slow in comparison though. An LC would have a decent riding position, it's tempting to sell the Fazer to fund one then get another one later. Trouble is i think the Fazer is the first bike i've had or ridden that i would miss too much, even for just a year :)
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going to have to get to my garage and get my RD250C back togehter again, with the 350 barrels of course :lol
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Rd350 YPVS 1986 = for me:
First time 100mph
First time 120mph
First time street cred
First time women ;) ;) x lots
First time banned (x3)
Thats why i still have one :rollin :rollin :rollin
Mark :)
I had another go at lc ownership, 4 years ago i also had a 1986 YPVS. While working on the electrics i managed to burn some of the wiring out, lost heart with it and passed it on, not going to make that mistake again :)
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going to have to get to my garage and get my RD250C back togehter again, with the 350 barrels of course :lol
Make sure you change the autolube to a 350 or it will seize ;) ;) ;)
Mark :)
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350 'valve on a B plate for me. Bought it second hand, low mileage, very clean.
It wasn't the first 2 stroke I'd ever had, and it wasn't the fastest 2 stroke I'd ever had; Denco tuned H2 and an RG500 came along before it. But even despite having had both of those first, it was still loads of fun. And after the Stephens stage 3 and Stephens/Lomas spannies had been added, it was seriously addictive. Wobbled around the corners at silly speeds without somehow ever feeling as if it'd get completely out of control. Metmachex s/arm tidied that up a lot anyway. That's my worry about buying one now - would I keep it standard? So really, I'd need two :lol
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350 'valve on a B plate for me. Bought it second hand, low mileage, very clean.
It wasn't the first 2 stroke I'd ever had, and it wasn't the fastest 2 stroke I'd ever had; Denco tuned H2 and an RG500 came along before it. But even despite having had both of those first, it was still loads of fun. And after the Stephens stage 3 and Stephens/Lomas spannies had been added, it was seriously addictive. Wobbled around the corners at silly speeds without somehow ever feeling as if it'd get completely out of control. Metmachex s/arm tidied that up a lot anyway. That's my worry about buying one now - would I keep it standard? So really, I'd need two :lol
I had ( and have again) N1 so handling was less wobbly, different fork springs, fazer 1000 master cylinder, better tyres, allspeeds and filters , still feels like a old YPVS but a bit safer :D
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My one now :D
(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv354/fatyzfr1/RD350N%20YPVS/200_zps607c0767.jpg) (http://s699.photobucket.com/user/fatyzfr1/media/RD350N%20YPVS/200_zps607c0767.jpg.html)
Mark :)
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Actually Mark, that's what I ended up with and got the tune etc done on - well, not quite (eh? confused? :lol ); it was originally my brother's, and I had the early one with the pro am style fairing and belly pan. But we both stacked em racing each other on a favourite stretch of twisties, and I ended up with my brother's one, cos it had lighter damage. I used the motor from my one though, cos it seemed a little perkier than his - just production line differences probably, or maybe totally my imagination. But when I say wobbly, remember I'd had the RG before that, so I guess it was a comparative thing. Loved it to bits. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to ride an N model now; can't reach the clip ons comfortably with my dodgy arm :\
That is a beautifully clean example you've got there. How do you find sourcing pistons/rings/wear and tear parts for it these days? I know some of the bodywork is unobtainable as original parts, but think I've seen that you can get some good replica bits now?
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Actually Mark, that's what I ended up with and got the tune etc done on - well, not quite (eh? confused? :lol ); it was originally my brother's, and I had the early one with the pro am style fairing and belly pan. But we both stacked em racing each other on a favourite stretch of twisties, and I ended up with my brother's one, cos it had lighter damage. I used the motor from my one though, cos it seemed a little perkier than his - just production line differences probably, or maybe totally my imagination. But when I say wobbly, remember I'd had the RG before that, so I guess it was a comparative thing. Loved it to bits. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be able to ride an N model now; can't reach the clip ons comfortably with my dodgy arm :\
That is a beautifully clean example you've got there. How do you find sourcing pistons/rings/wear and tear parts for it these days? I know some of the bodywork is unobtainable as original parts, but think I've seen that you can get some good replica bits now?
Hi Nick,
some ypvs motors were better than others my standard N1 in 1986 was quicker than my mates proddie one?? he never believed mine wasnt tuned lol
i nearly got the rd500 in 86 but was about £300 short so got the N1 :)
rode my mates Rg and it was unbelievably quick ( i still want a skol bandit rep :) )
i was lucky getting this one, found laying on its side with trees growing through it ,needed lots of work, but the motor hadnt been apart and its still on standard bores,pistons, crank etc, just had to change the rings :eek :D
getting parts isnt to hard if you want one to ride , harder if you want to show it.
Have a look on rdlccrazy , Norbo runs the site and is helpful , and you can get most stuff now even rep side panels, tanks are hard to find :(
Mark :)
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spotted this at the bike show at the Haynes motor museum recently,it was the only picture i took,not even sure why as i was never into the whole 2 stroke/powerband thing,but this bike just caught my eye
a old RD350, rebuilt and adapted into a foxeye Fazer 600 frame !! she's a beauty aint she ? !!
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Do you mean FZ-6 frame?
And yes. Slobber! :D
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I wonder if Paul is annoyed that his "250 On L Plates" thread has been totally and unashamedly :hijack
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Not annoyed at the hijack...love talking about the old jap bikes, bit too yammy though....the x7 was a rival to the air cooled rd.but lighter and quicker ,by far the best 250 at the time, ive owned a few over the years, the white one in the first post is the one I have now, just started a winter restoration, bought this a few years ago from a guy in wiltshire, bought unseen via ebay :rolleyes.about 80 ish miles home,got me bro to ride it home for me while I followed in the cage.microns, k+n's, flat out down the M4 , the sight and sounds took me straight back to my teens :)......bro was having a whale of a time, untill about 4 miles from home it ground to a halt...........holed piston :'( :'( :'(.......dont see my bro much now but when he does stop by I make sure the piston is close by :lol
Bro had a cb 250 rs when I owned my first X7 in 1980......hence me buying the orange one recently, had three of these over the years and imho I think the best 250 four stroke of the bunch
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There was a 350LC for sale at the Stafford show. Can't remember the mileage, something around 20k I think. Little bit shabby on the finish, but all original, nothing broken that I could see. If it was a runner, just needed some tlc, £2650. I lingered over it for quite a while. Hmmm, do I regret not at least finding out more? Oh yes, I certainly do!
Someone please lock this thread, it's too bloody dangerous :lol
Think this is the very same Stafford bike nick....
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That's it!
Should I have been tempted d'ya think?
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Iam sure that one and the one behind were sold....and I went on the saturday !!!!...did see a scruffy but complete black one for just over a grand, looked a good buy to me......hope you had a gander at the X7 stand :D
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The 250 was definitely sold, but there was nothing on the 350 to say it was. That's why I lingered over it for so long.
I'll not deny the X7 is a good bike Paul, but I was working (Saturday lad) at a Yam dealer when the LCs first came into stock, plus my brother having owned a 350LC which he had a bore kit done on, and me and my other brother having had the p/valves, so I guess that's where my fondest memories/allegiances lie.
My first big fad was for Kawasaki 4s though, as my eldest brother had a beaut of a Z650 before I was old enough to ride, and the Kwaks just had the right image of being a bit more raw than the other Jap stuff. So went through x3 Z650s, Z1, GPz750 Turbo (fondest memories from all the Kwaks), GPZ1100. The H2s were eye openers, had x2, and glad I tried them, but I wouldn't really want to go back to them. Even if you upgraded with a custom chassis and all the bits, the engines were made of cheese, and haven't survived very well. Had a bit of a run with Suzukis; GSXR750 slabby, GSXR1100 slabby, RG500. But I think Yams have been my favourites overall; 350 p/valve, FZ750, FZR1000 EXUP, and x4 Fazer thous. Generally a better finish than the Suzis I reckon? Dunno, just something elusive.
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That's it!
Should I have been tempted d'ya think?
Yep it is tempting at the time isn't it!.For those with wallets holding substantial folding,this was also available for purchase at Stafford...
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But now you're talking silly money, from my perspective at least. Thing about that LC was, powder coat the frame and a few bits, polish some ally here and there, maybe replace a few seals and bits, touch of paint, and with your own hands you could have a nice easy resto job, to have a little pride in. Assuming there were no major problems lurking unseen, but even then, engine work wouldn't be that expensive on them if you did the labour yourself - and so easy to work on!
I was just looking round it, thinking, is the price the right compromise between the silly money you'd have to pay for an immaculate one, and what it would cost to tidy this one. And I think it may well have been, because all the standard parts were there, and there was no major rust/rotting that I could see. I mean, original, undented, non-rusty pipes! How many more could you find like that? Most at least have Allspeeds or something now.
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To be fair while the x7 was quicker the air cooled RD was a better handling bike which always felt more solid. The LC felt like a thoroughbred at the time when my KH250 felt as though its frame was made of cheese strings
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Iam sure that one and the one behind were sold....and I went on the saturday !!!!...did see a scruffy but complete black one for just over a grand, looked a good buy to me......hope you had a gander at the X7 stand :D
The white LC was still for sale when I took the pic.The 500 at the rear of the photo was an import model RZV.Very scruffy,but it had sold by the time we had moved on.Can't remember the exact screen price.Think it was close on £5000 :eek (?).I think the black LC for just over a grand was a French import as I remember.Yep did have a look at the X7 stand :).
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But now you're talking silly money, from my perspective at least. Thing about that LC was, powder coat the frame and a few bits, polish some ally here and there, maybe replace a few seals and bits, touch of paint, and with your own hands you could have a nice easy resto job, to have a little pride in. Assuming there were no major problems lurking unseen, but even then, engine work wouldn't be that expensive on them if you did the labour yourself - and so easy to work on!
I was just looking round it, thinking, is the price the right compromise between the silly money you'd have to pay for an immaculate one, and what it would cost to tidy this one. And I think it may well have been, because all the standard parts were there, and there was no major rust/rotting that I could see. I mean, original, undented, non-rusty pipes! How many more could you find like that? Most at least have Allspeeds or something now.
Yeah i agree, it did look like a good compromise price to make a tidy usable classic stroker.Would prob have knocked a bit of the price for cash as well maybe.It's amazing how much in demand decent used parts are for them now.Nearly all the used clock sets are in KPH (MPH ones are as rare as hens teeth),'rear fender-rear' is like gold-dust (although someone is re-manufacturing them now),ditto centrestands,unbroken sidepanels,pipes..........
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Also for sale on the same stall...
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So did anyone catch who the seller was?
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No,but my mate bought a set of used LC clocks from him for £50,so he might remember.He specialized in RD stuff I reckon.Had quite a few used bits & some clock binnacles that I think were NOS (if not they were a very good remake).
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Hi Guys, I really like the Haynes bike...can I convert my FZ6 to two stroke by putting RD cylinder heads on?
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Hi Guys, I really like the Haynes bike...can I convert my FZ6 to two stroke by putting RD cylinder heads on?
Can you....yes....Permission granted.
crack on and mind send us some pics
:useless
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Hi Guys, I really like the Haynes bike...can I convert my FZ6 to two stroke by putting RD cylinder heads on?
Yes, of course you can :)
But you have to use LC heads of course, cos your FZ6 is liquid cooled too - no air cooled RD stuff. Can you weld? ;)
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Hi Guys, I really like the Haynes bike...can I convert my FZ6 to two stroke by putting RD cylinder heads on?
Errr yeah...you will need to take two of the pistons out as the FZ6 is a four stroke.
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I have a mate from the gym who did his but he's an engineer on the railway
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Back in the early 80's Performance bikes ran an X7 and i think they put a Nitrous kit on it. Boosting the power from 26BHP to 72BHP. 2 minutes later it blew up.
Mickey
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Back in the early 80's Performance bikes ran an X7 and i think they put a Nitrous kit on it. Boosting the power from 26BHP to 72BHP. 2 minutes later it blew up.
Mickey
Hey Paul, can I borrow your X7 for 2 minutes? :rollin :rollin
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a whole 2 minutes.......you lost your touch :rolleyes
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I had an X7 which was faster than any Yamaha LC, I had 128mph out of it on the Abergavenny bypass
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Was that with or without diesel :rollin
Foc me, I've been to Wales a few times this year, and there was a lot of sheep shit around, just don't remember seeing this much bullshit :rolleyes
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Back in the early 80's Performance bikes ran an X7 and i think they put a Nitrous kit on it. Boosting the power from 26BHP to 72BHP. 2 minutes later it blew up.
Mickey
Hey Paul, can I borrow your X7 for 2 minutes? :rollin :rollin
Hey Christo, you don't need nitrous to make me laugh... :fish
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To be fair while the x7 was quicker the air cooled RD was a better handling bike which always felt more solid. The LC felt like a thoroughbred at the time when my KH250 felt as though its frame was made of cheese strings
Got to agree had an X7 at one time, lighter and a teeny bit faster but flighty as hell and it felt less substanial than the RDs.
will run my Aircooled 250/350 on pre-mix, going to have fun getting the jetting right with a Y-boot and big can microns
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borrowed a G5 to take my test
(http://classic-motorbikes.net/images/gallery/cb250g5.jpg)
examiner had to jump out of the way on the E stop as in the wet honda disc brakes didn't work
had an X7 x2 (you needed another for spares) the old suzuki was a bit quicker than an LC until a corner appeared.
had an NS400R in rothmans that i bought from stan stephens (thankfully he hadn't touched it)
it got cbr600 wheels and lightly breathed upon by my loving hands and would embarass fireblades in the twisties (first bike i ever got my knee down on).
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This thread be like....
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had an NS400R in rothmans that i bought from stan stephens (thankfully he hadn't touched it)
Why thankfully?
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This thread be like....
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:rollin In 20 years time we'll all still be here and the talk will be
" Do you remember that young lad Christo, back in the day he made me laugh with his antics and ideas. Whatever happened to him. Well I heard he invented that spaceship that is taking space tourist to Mars and now is getting his kicks flying at 100 times the speed of sound. So a bit like an X7 on Nitrous then"
Mickey
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This thread be like....
([url]http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/750/df2/139/resized/old-man-meme-generator-and-then-i-had-a-250lc-and-an-x7-2-stroke-love-braaaaaap-d14b3a.jpg[/url])
You`re only envious of our rose tinted two stroke fogged up glasses :D
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Apparently the 250cc law was only introduced on July 1st 1961.Before that you could rip about on 1000 Vincents with L plates attached to your hearts content! :lol.
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...& no Christo,we don't remember that! :lol.
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How about the sidecar law, does that still stand ?
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How about the sidecar law, does that still stand ?
Good question..i don't think it does.I had a quick look at the rules on it,but it's so complicated & confusing it made me dizzy reading it! :rolleyes.
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How about the sidecar law, does that still stand ?
Nope. Not unless you are disabled and only what a three wheeler licence.
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This thread be like....
([url]http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/750/df2/139/resized/old-man-meme-generator-and-then-i-had-a-250lc-and-an-x7-2-stroke-love-braaaaaap-d14b3a.jpg[/url])
:rollin In 20 years time we'll all still be here and the talk will be
" Do you remember that young lad Christo, back in the day he made me laugh with his antics and ideas. Whatever happened to him. Well I heard he invented that spaceship that is taking space tourist to Mars and now is getting his kicks flying at 100 times the speed of sound. So a bit like an X7 on Nitrous then"
Mickey
'Yeah, but didn't he bump into the Moon and Saturn before he left the solar system........'
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Honda 250 Super dream on here, ok not the fastest or best but a bloody good bike IMHO
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Honda 250 Super dream on here, ok not the pastest or best but a bloody good bike IMHO
Aaaaaaaaargh!
:lol
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Honda 250 Super dream on here, ok not the pastest or best but a bloody good bike IMHO
A few mates had them and 1 had a GSX250 and another had a GS250 custom. All those bikes did it but they never did it like an X7 or LC.
Mickey
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fairly certain mine was a 250N had both kick start & electronic start ( I didn't realise what that button was for for 1st 6months of having it!)
was gifted it from bloke a t work (£100) as he was moving house and his misses told him he had to get rid of some of his bikes
then me & a mate who also had one, bought a job lot from someone that was a frame, bout 2 1/2 engines 3 wheels and 2 wiring looms and built another and used it as a spares testing bike in his workshop / shed.. 1st run after getting it working, with only down pipes and no seat down the road was great so we rode it to the local pub! lol
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KH250 What it lacked in handling it more than made up for in sheer terror. Plastic tyres, weedy forks, brakes errr a Raleigh chopper had better brakes...but theres nothing quite like a KH for the sound particularly when wringing its neck..
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Yep the KH sounds fantastic on song :).
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I had a 250na (kick start and elec frh539t if I recall) bought it a week after I passed my test on cb100 that seemed fast after my restricted x1 . Some people have reminiscing about the x7 my main memory is traveling from Scarborough to Hull on the back of one being chased by a 250lc and cbx550, if anyone knows the road in to north Grimstone hump back bridge followed by a right hand bend I was punching my mate in the sides to sounds of his laughter as we landed and hurled it round the bends, we were home first but I never went on the back again..
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Missed the 250cc learner bikes due to age but had an RD250 with sidewinder on L plates bought from a mates brother.
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had an NS400R in rothmans that i bought from stan stephens (thankfully he hadn't touched it)
Why thankfully?
because although his in house full race motors were good, the majority of his work was send in your barrels and heads and we'll make you the kiddie. just how you can tune an engine without knowing the precise piston/head/squish clearance is beyond me.
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Did the job on mine. How come? I see what you're saying, but there's no doubt his tuning, just as you described, made a heck of a difference. I sold the bike to a mate who took it racing, and did ok on it too.
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I see even Stan has an autobiography out now!.Should be a good read :).Includes contributions from some top racers. :)