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Title: Patches
Post by: Robbie8666 on 16 September 2014, 08:46:45 am
in another thread a comment was raised that has me wondering how many patched members (back or side) are on the forum?!
 
I've recently joined a side patch club and our rules are fairly basic when it comes to bikes, basically you must own & be able to ride a bike & said bike must be able to maintain motorway speeds, but i know other clubs can be fairly strict with the rules for what bike you can have!
 
 
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Deefer666 on 16 September 2014, 09:34:40 am
Hmm if there were full patched member on thisboard, do you think they would state it on an open forum? I think not.....
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: keithfzs1000 on 16 September 2014, 09:43:38 am
side patch as in mcc or prospect for an mc?? as for only owning a bike that can maintain motorway speeds WTF  :eek :eek :eek so how the kids of the people in the club going to get along when they passed their cbt, as not many 125cc bikes will do 70 now.

Am in local rally club we go all over the country to rallies and have over 40 members and we let our kids get whatever bike they like then adjust our speed to theirs so they can get around with us seems to me it makes more sense than waiting till they 19 or spend a lifetime and a fortune finding an old unrestricrted 125

an mc member would not dare to admit he on a forum like this as they have their rules and being members or even forum members of another club or society etc etc is a big no no
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Robbie8666 on 16 September 2014, 09:58:00 am
Hmm if there were full patched member on thisboard, do you think they would state it on an open forum? I think not.....

I wasn't expecting members to speak out, it was more a muse in thought!
I was very careful not to mention my involvement in detail and am aware of both recriminations and rules :)
 
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 16 September 2014, 11:18:21 am

I've recently joined a side patch club 

Whats one of those please ? and whats the difference betwix a back patch one
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 16 September 2014, 11:58:13 am

I've recently joined a side patch club 


Whats one of those please ? and whats the difference betwix a back patch one



http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml (http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 16 September 2014, 12:00:22 pm
 ;)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Andy Clap on 16 September 2014, 12:10:05 pm

I've recently joined a side patch club 


Whats one of those please ? and whats the difference betwix a back patch one



[url]http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml[/url])

Very interesting post darrsi.  In particular "if they have a patch on their back don't upset them"!
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 16 September 2014, 12:36:53 pm
Ok I now know all there is to know about patches and where they are fitted and all that stuff. I had no idea there was so much etiquette involved-- if that word can possibly be used in this context.
Each to their own and respect to all-------me, Im Billy - no - mates.
Or am I a club member on here as from reading the info on the link sounds like we are, a loose group who help each other out and occasionlay meet for rides out, do we need a patch. That reminds me what ever happend to the tax disk badge idea.     
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 16 September 2014, 01:07:30 pm

I've recently joined a side patch club 


Whats one of those please ? and whats the difference betwix a back patch one



[url]http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.ukbikeforum.com/html/bike_clubs.shtml[/url])

Very interesting post darrsi.  In particular "if they have a patch on their back don't upset them"!



I hear ya, but i'm pretty sure everybody can appreciate a classic film like that.  :)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: keithfzs1000 on 16 September 2014, 02:45:26 pm
Been around a long time in n out of a few mcc clubs been a lone wolf and now with mates in a rally club

 My light hearted look at who rides  :evil :evil

My sincere appologies if you have taken offence to any of the descriptions I have posted as it is a light hearted look at who rides bikes.  :rollin

Title: Re: Patches
Post by: bigralphie on 16 September 2014, 02:48:24 pm
I am a "friend" of a couple of local MCC and HOG due to being involved on charity rides and I was invited to join a "patriotic " MC once upon a time ,but I’m too much of Power Ranger to make the grade lol :lol
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: richfzs on 16 September 2014, 02:56:05 pm
Keith, I think you've got it about right there :rollin

Me, I'm in group 2 (nearly said I'm number 2,different thing altogether :lol)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Fazafou on 16 September 2014, 02:57:16 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: keithfzs1000 on 16 September 2014, 03:03:42 pm
yes but that commuter probably fits into one of the other 5 groups when not working, having siad that hats off to them riding all year round, been there n my body now suffers the consequences as protective riding apparel in my day was ermm a helmet, denim jeans, leather jacket n gloves possibly boots if you were lucky   lol  :crazy :crazy :crazy
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 16 September 2014, 03:28:33 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)


Hmmm or is a true biker one that has a car yet still chooses to ride a bike whenever they can, even if like me its only when the sun shines.
Yes I too have done my time riding in bad weather when I had no choice, praying for a red light so I could lean down and grab the exhaust, no fancy pants.........pants back then either,with water proofs that were'nt blah blah.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Fazafou on 16 September 2014, 03:42:58 pm
Agree, spent too many years in my 20s freezing my fingers off (not to mention other bits) to do it these days. Happy to sit in the car in winter now with the heater on.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 16 September 2014, 03:50:50 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)


Hmmm or is a true biker one that has a car yet still chooses to ride a bike whenever they can, even if like me its only when the sun shines.
Yes I too have done my time riding in bad weather when I had no choice, praying for a red light so I could lean down and grab the exhaust, no fancy pants.........pants back then either,with water proofs that were'nt blah blah.
I dont see many harleys out in the rain


No, we call that a fair weather rider, amongst other things!  :lol 
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 September 2014, 07:05:10 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)

I think they would fall in to their own category mostly since not a single commuter has ever nodded or acknowledge my presence on the road...

Perhaps it would be two sub-categories; the commuter with a passion for bikes probably conforms to group 2, but the commuter who just uses a bike to get from A to B because its cheaper tends to be a moody bastard and couldn't care less about other powered two-wheelers
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: midden on 16 September 2014, 07:07:10 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)


Hmmm or is a true biker one that has a car yet still chooses to ride a bike whenever they can, even if like me its only when the sun shines.
Yes I too have done my time riding in bad weather when I had no choice, praying for a red light so I could lean down and grab the exhaust, no fancy pants.........pants back then either,with water proofs that were'nt blah blah.
I dont see many harleys out in the rain

This would be me but choosing to in all weather
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 16 September 2014, 07:28:16 pm
I dont mind the cold as these days I have the modern thermal gear, but dont like rain, slippy, wet, and makes my bike dirty.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 16 September 2014, 07:35:28 pm
What about the pizza boys, surely they are a special category.
"Suicidal" perhaps?
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: chris.biker on 16 September 2014, 07:38:49 pm
I dont mind the cold as these days I have the modern thermal gear, but dont like rain, slippy, wet, and makes my bike dirty.


It is snow that takes the smile off my face on my commute to work, but stiff upper lip and I rise to the challenge.

Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 16 September 2014, 07:55:45 pm
There is another group; those that ride for a living: couriers, police, and a guy I knew who was a rep for Fowlers and rode his FJR round the dealers in all weather.
Hats off especially to couriers in big cities, who risk life and limb everyday among the car/van/taxi driving numpties, day in, day out, in all weather, all year round. No one can tell those guys they're not true bikers, even if they don't ride for pleasure outside of work, although I think most probably do. And we of course have a few couriers/ex couriers among our number here: hats off to you guys, I couldn't do that and remain sane/alive!
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: chaz on 16 September 2014, 08:02:50 pm
I was in a back patch club back in the early 70's, I won't say which one  but the bottom rocker said "WEST RIDING" not enough biking done and not enough bikes, didn't stay in it long as it wasn't my thing? it was bad enough riding a motorbike but wearing patches and you were an outcast.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: chaz on 16 September 2014, 08:10:59 pm
here's what the press would say about bikers in the 60's, the bottom photo is at the old squires at sherburn-in-elmet.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Millietant on 16 September 2014, 09:09:00 pm
Like a couple of others I dabbled with various "Clubs" as a yoof - back "colours" on cut-off's, too much booze and drugs and not enough actual bike-stuff for me.

Initiation's were always "fun", people being dragged around a muddy field by their ankles and pulled through the full septic tank tank at the back of the pub, sinking a pint with a freshly used tampon in it, every member p*ssing on your colours, while you're wearing them, all that sort of stuff. NOT my idea of fun. There was quite a bit of rivalry between clubs/gangs - not always friendly

Now, I sort of fit into group 1, maybe into 3 and probably into others and some not yet mentioned - in that I always ride in full coverage gear and I ride a "Superbike", but, I don't pretend to be a racer on the roads (I keep that for the track). But, I also ride trail/enduro bikes and can regularly be seen in full off-road gear, with motocross helmet, big boots and googles. And then, I can also be seen riding a Fazer/FJ in two-piece textile "grandad" protective/waterproof gear. I also spend a lot of time riding on my own, or riding with different sets of friends, or heaven forbid, with my wife and son on their bikes.

Any "club" or group that requires me to wear a patch of any sort, or needs me to conform to any stereotype, behaviour type, activity, type, or display of loyalty, is a club/group I don't want to be part of.

Don't really know what that makes me, other than a selfish, self righteous tosser - but I'm happy :-)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Deefer666 on 17 September 2014, 07:36:38 am
Just be very careful about what you post on an open forum in relation to the whole MC/back patch/1% subject, it is very easy to cause offense even if no malice is intended. If you don't know the "etiquette" involved in this side of motorcycling then its probably because you don't move within the "club scene" and will probably never will, But it is not a subject to be shouted about.


We (OMF & I) move in these circles for a living and if you don't know the politics involved then its best to keep your mouth shut.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Grahamm on 17 September 2014, 12:11:55 pm
To quote Groucho Marx: I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member! :)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: tony_d123 on 17 September 2014, 01:43:56 pm
To quote Groucho Marx: I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member! :)


 :lol
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: dazza on 17 September 2014, 02:59:01 pm
In the 70's my Dad was a patch wearer on the elbows of his corduroy jacket and my Mother used to sew patches on the knees of my school trousers......I don't really see what all the fuss is about.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: peterjca on 17 September 2014, 03:45:36 pm
There's a 6th group Keith, commuters.  Ride through the week in all weather, possibly all year and rack up a lot of miles on their bike doing so. It's their main form of transport and arguably the true 'biker' ;)


Hmmm or is a true biker one that has a car yet still chooses to ride a bike whenever they can, even if like me its only when the sun shines.
Yes I too have done my time riding in bad weather when I had no choice, praying for a red light so I could lean down and grab the exhaust, no fancy pants.........pants back then either,with water proofs that were'nt blah blah.

Nah, a true biker is someone who can't drive a car because he never had the interest to learn. I'll stick to two wheels thankyou (commuting every day unless it's snow and ice or strong winds), and riding it whenever I can.

Anyone else on here unable (unwilling!) to drive a car?
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 17 September 2014, 04:01:42 pm
I started off on a bike but I will tell you what drove me to drive-----------it was girls, because yeh great I will go out with you-- what time are you picking me up!
So mabe when girls come along you will see the need to get a car  :evil :D
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: andybesy on 17 September 2014, 04:08:52 pm
I'm bikes only, no car license. I have to say I do quite fancy a van, but only so I can fill it full of motorbikes.

Earlier this summer we were out for a ride, and saw a load of patches on the side of the road, I think at a rally.

Gave them my customary friendly wave or nod which I'll give to most any sort of biker, but got the finger off about 40 of them in return! Not very friendly!

I do tend to think of FOC as a club of sorts, as everyone here has been so helpful over past couple of years of Fazer ownership.

And I occasionally join up with fairly informal groups such as Derbyshire Bikers (1000+ group on Facebook).

I've also recently joined Biker Match having run in to them at one of their rallies at a local pub. Went and said hello naturally! My mate says it's sexy camping for bikers so I'm definitely going on the next one.

Andy
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Doddsie on 17 September 2014, 07:27:21 pm
"A true biker is someone who cant drive because he never had the interest to learn"  :rolleyes ....... What a complete and utter load of bollocks!!!!!
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Millietant on 17 September 2014, 07:41:05 pm
Groucho - deep as well as funny  :)
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: fazersharp on 17 September 2014, 07:46:36 pm
Tell you what a true biker is any person with a bike, no one is more of a biker than any other, we all have bikes and we all ride them different amounts and for different reasons and that makes us all true bikers
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Rikki on 17 September 2014, 10:15:22 pm
got the finger off about 40 of them in return! Not very friendly!

Bunch of girls! Probably on the rag or something.
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 17 September 2014, 11:47:45 pm
Dare i say it, been riding constant for 27 years, never bothered with a car, never felt the need or urge.
Just the way it panned out!
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 18 September 2014, 07:09:40 am
Tell you what a true biker is any person with a bike, no one is more of a biker than any other, we all have bikes and we all ride them different amounts and for different reasons and that makes us all true bikers

Possibly. In favour of this argument:

1. A colleague at work plays golf in his free time. He is a golfer. Why should someone who rides a bike not get a label? It's not meant maliciously by most of us, it just helps to identify you, e.g., in conversation; "Which John Smith? Ooooh, biker John".

2. Anyone who rides the roads faces the same hazards; pot holes, surface dressing etc, idiot drivers (see, there's another one!), bad weather etc. In my view, they all deserve a certain amount of respect for choosing to deal with that, whether they just do it on a sunny Sunday, or are out in all weather, commuting or riding for a living. I'll give a nod or acknowledgement to scooter riders, L platers, police riders; they all deal with the same shit.

Perhaps there should, however, be a separate category; the veteran biker; if you started in your teens, and are still riding a bike out of choice, say, 20 years later, then I guess it's more than just a passing fad for you (to paraphrase Dave Gurman of TRD fame).

Bikes have defined who I am since my early teens. There have been short periods when I didn't have a bike, when financial circumstances dictated, but not more usually than a year or two at a time, and I always went back to two wheels as soon as I could afford to. Over the years, I've had times when it was bike first and never thought about cars (maybe that's why I'm still single fazersharp  :lol ), I've done all the commuting in everything from sunny summer days to snow and ice conditions in the dark, but now the latter has all got to be a bit much for me, not getting any younger. So maybe I'm a veteran biker?
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: limax2 on 18 September 2014, 10:00:34 am

Perhaps there should, however, be a separate category; the veteran biker; if you started in your teens, and are still riding a bike out of choice, say, 20 years later,

:rollin :rollin :rollin



20 years later a veteran  :eek .  I don't know what that makes me at 50+ years later  :\ ???
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: richfzs on 18 September 2014, 10:02:13 am
That makes you an old foccer :rollin :pokefun
Title: Re: Patches
Post by: darrsi on 18 September 2014, 11:58:50 am
Tell you what a true biker is any person with a bike, no one is more of a biker than any other, we all have bikes and we all ride them different amounts and for different reasons and that makes us all true bikers

Possibly. In favour of this argument:

1. A colleague at work plays golf in his free time. He is a golfer. Why should someone who rides a bike not get a label? It's not meant maliciously by most of us, it just helps to identify you, e.g., in conversation; "Which John Smith? Ooooh, biker John".

2. Anyone who rides the roads faces the same hazards; pot holes, surface dressing etc, idiot drivers (see, there's another one!), bad weather etc. In my view, they all deserve a certain amount of respect for choosing to deal with that, whether they just do it on a sunny Sunday, or are out in all weather, commuting or riding for a living. I'll give a nod or acknowledgement to scooter riders, L platers, police riders; they all deal with the same shit.

Perhaps there should, however, be a separate category; the veteran biker; if you started in your teens, and are still riding a bike out of choice, say, 20 years later, then I guess it's more than just a passing fad for you (to paraphrase Dave Gurman of TRD fame).

Bikes have defined who I am since my early teens. There have been short periods when I didn't have a bike, when financial circumstances dictated, but not more usually than a year or two at a time, and I always went back to two wheels as soon as I could afford to. Over the years, I've had times when it was bike first and never thought about cars (maybe that's why I'm still single fazersharp  :lol ), I've done all the commuting in everything from sunny summer days to snow and ice conditions in the dark, but now the latter has all got to be a bit much for me, not getting any younger. So maybe I'm a veteran biker?


Oh my, 44 years old and just been labelled a veteran.  :look