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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Paulfzs on 01 September 2014, 12:01:13 pm
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painted a bit of my engine... should i paint the whole lot including cases?
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dropped the can of paint oops
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Did you clean all that crud off the engine before painting it?
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yep cleaned it as best as humanly possible with every de greaser i could find.
the secret is to use poundland spray paint and if it goes wrong its not a problem, i used 1 whole can to do it.
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Like i said in the other post, it's not meant to be a professional job, but it does put a bit of sparkle back into an old bike. :D
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Will you be sanding the fin edges back to metal
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Will you be sanding the fin edges back to metal
Why does that bother people so much? :lol
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Will you be sanding the fin edges back to metal
Nope, i guessed this is what causes the paint to flake in the first place, allowing moisture to get in, im just going to sponge and silver paint it (if i do paint it silver)
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darrsi has a thread on here that I'm following - and he learnt the hard way as to how to clean and prep the bike to make sure it all stays on so I'm learning the easy way by following his thread ;)
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Will you be sanding the fin edges back to metal
Nope, i guessed this is what causes the paint to flake in the first place, allowing moisture to get in, im just going to sponge and silver paint it (if i do paint it silver)
Just doing mine and i thought this as well, but then its fallen off across the front of the engine as well so i don't think its the only cause.
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if its all one coat im sure with a small hole itll eventually get under it all?
anyway..
painted with a sponge today, poundland "silver tyre" spray, sprayed onto a poundland sponge... pressed a bit hard in some places so the silvers gone everywhere, will need to clean it up later.
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Guys, I am going to paint mine too and was hoping I could pick up tips from you. Darrsi had provided tips on another thread but I just wondered if you coins share yours please..
1. How did you apply degreaser
2. How did you remove old paint, what types tools/brushes/striper/sandpaper
3. Any other prep needed before spraying
4. Recommendations for paint (make, colour..)
Thanks in advance
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I gave it a quick wash with normal car soap crap, then covered it in oven cleaner, best de greaser going!
then cleaned it all off and a wash with fairy liquid.
once id done that i let it dry started the bike up and let it idle for about 5 minutes got it warm then just sprayed it.
I used cheap poundland gloss black spray which is actually pretty good and hasn't been heat damaged yet.
to get the old paint off i just used a brillo pad at first to get most of the flaky bits off then the back edge of a knife, dont use the sharp side youll scratch it, then brillo pad after to get the rest of the small bits off.
Once youre done just use a sponge to paint the fins, dont sand it off.
Done my wheels with the poundland spray aswell!! £1 for 300ml ive used 5 cans doing engine, side panels and both wheels.
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I used a knife, wire brush, flat head screwdriver to remove the worst of the paint and then 80 grit sandpaper.
I would recommend proper panel wipe/degreaser, halfords do a pack of 5 pre soaked wipes, one will do the whole bike.
And then lots of masking up.
Have fun.
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Great tips guys. Thank you
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Is that paint striipper stuff, in tins, any good? You brush it on, soak overnight, and the paint is supposed to 'fall off'
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Shouldn't be any need for paint stripper if its that bad, got a pic of your engine?
mine litteraly brushed off, a brillo pad got some of it off it was barely stuck down.
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As above, plus you are introducing more chemicals for the paint to react with.
If it won't come off with a wire brush then i won't come off and you have a base coat ready made.
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Ahh.a wire brush ... Didn't think of that.
OK. I'll try this and the tips above
Much obliged
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I gave it a quick wash with normal car soap crap, then covered it in oven cleaner, best de greaser going!
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One more thing...
Does oven cleaner not eat/damage chrome and alloy/aluminium.
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When using the 80grit, does this need to get into nooks and crannies , deep into the fins, under cables and hooks where even tiny fingers cannot reach.. All those hard to get places?
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Will you be sanding the fin edges back to metal
Why does that bother people so much? :lol
It doesn't, it was just a question ya grumpy ol' foccer ;)
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I gave it a quick wash with normal car soap crap, then covered it in oven cleaner, best de greaser going!
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One more thing...
Does oven cleaner not eat/damage chrome and alloy/aluminium.
And
When using the 80grit, does this need to get into nooks and crannies , deep into the fins, under cables and hooks where even tiny fingers cannot reach.. All those hard to get places?
Nope was fine on mine, just dont use super duper high strength, i used some epic expensive stuff on my forks it made them eww.
don't really need to get deep inside the fins tbh, just do what you can with a knife and brillo pad/wire brush, it wont really be seen, mine was a rushed job using no special tools and it looks great.
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K. Thank you so much.
EDIT: removed stupid repeat question that I forgot I've already asked Darrsi; I'm ordered Plastikote Premium Satin Black
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Wrap some sandpaper around the right size bit of wood and then you can get into all the nooks and crannies of the fins.
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Wrap some sandpaper around the right size bit of wood and then you can get into all the nooks and crannies of the fins.
Only if you want to be super anal :D
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Rather than use wire wool or sand-paper, I use "Scotchbrite" pads from Halfords, they remove/smooth the old paint but cause less damage to the metal.
To get the silver back on the fin edges, don't sand them after the paint has dried, use a soft cloth with a bit of thinners on it, rubbed (carefully and slowly) along the fin edge when the paint is still wet, to wipe the paint off the fin edges. I've been using this method for more than 30 years and I've not had any problems with paint lifting or water damage.