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General => General => Topic started by: chunk166 on 15 August 2014, 01:54:20 pm
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Hi,Whilst on my way to work them morning i was getting a metallic sounding squeal/scrapping sound coming from the front end! I dont think its to do with braking as its there when i brake,its also intermittant!!!! I'm guessing a wheel bearing but i hope you guys can shed some light on it please!!!!!.
Thanks in advance
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Not much up front to make that sort of noise really, either your pads are down to the metal, or as you say your bearings could be shot.
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As Darrsi says, most likely pads. Bearings would have to be well broken up for them to squeal I would have thought. Put bike on centre stand and feel for play in the wheel and spin it to see if you can pin point the noise.
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Sounds more like you've got a stone caught in one of the front calipers rather than a bearing problem. A bearing problem would cause the front end to go all wobblyexcept when you put the brakes on and the pads acting on the discs on straighten things out.
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Stone in the caliper is most likely. It could also be the speedo drive dried out.
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I will have a look at it over the weekend,pads are fine plenty left on them & the discs look ok!!!! The wheel is tight trying to rotate it the way it would when riding but looser turning it backwards??
Time to get dirty i think :book :smash :tape
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Caliper pots ok, not sticking?
Take the pad pins out and give them a good clean up, and make sure there's no grooves in them so the pads can slide properly.
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All checked & cleaned up & re-greased last weekend!! Maybe i have disturbed something???
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Could be that you put the pads back on differently, so they may need bedding in again for a little while?
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This it true but I don't understand why it started after 4-5 days!!! As a precaution i'm gonna order some bearings before i think about taking the wheel out because if i need to grease the speedo drive I don't want the bearings dropping out if there knackered!!!!
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Collapsed bearings could cause an accident so you shouldn't ride it until it's fixed. As a quick check you could take the calipers off and try to spin the wheel and check if it spins freely. If it spins ok then it would point to the calipers if it doesn't then it's bearings but definitely take the wheel off and check the bearings properly.
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Unfortunately i don't have much choice but to ride it as public transport to where i work is almost non existent,but bearings ordered & should be here by tuesday! I will take off the calipers & spin the wheel to check if it spins freely or not. Any suggestions on how to keep the front wheel of the ground as i don't have a paddock stand or axle stands?? :rolleyes :rolleyes
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If you put it on the centre stand and weigh the back down it'll hold the front wheel up. If you've got a top box on the back it's dead handy. Just load it up with heavy stuff. I use exercise weights. If you do find a damaged bearing you're taking a fair risk riding on it especially on the front.
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Just give someone a plate of sandwiches and ask them nicely to sit on your pillion seat and eat them slowly. :lol
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Would have thought if the wheel turns OK and there is no play in the bearing (get somebody to hold the handlebar then try moving wheel from side to side - worn bearing will give a click click noise and you'll feel the play) then the bearing is fine.
Had a rear bearing let go on me, can be pretty scary. Limped the 12 miles back home at about 25mph. Sort of felt weird for a few corners, I was thinking - am I imagining that? - then it just let go.
If the front goes you'll be on yer arse before you know it - if you haven't smacked into something coming the other way. If I found play in my front bearing I would not ride the bike till fixed.
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Well! There is a bit of play in the wheel,but only noticeable when the calipers are off. I have ordered a set of bearing which hopefully i will get by tuesday & i can fit them in the evening!. I can't have time off work as their short staffed & the public transport is crap so i will have to use my bike but i will be a lot more careful than i normally am. Just need to make a frame up to sit the wheel in when i remove them ;)
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Well! There is a bit of play in the wheel,but only noticeable when the calipers are off. I have ordered a set of bearing which hopefully i will get by tuesday & i can fit them in the evening!. I can't have time off work as their short staffed & the public transport is crap so i will have to use my bike but i will be a lot more careful than i normally am. Just need to make a frame up to sit the wheel in when i remove them ;)
To be honest mate, if your bearings are that bad, I'd not ride it at all. There's nothing you can do about it, you might be able to ride okay until they're replaced, you may hit a pot hole and get have them disintegrate, or they may just randomly collapse on you. Without seeing them it's hard to say, but personally I'd be asking mates for lifts or using the public transport, even if it is shit. You have an accident with those bearings, and you'll be screwed, big time.
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Well she is all locked up & going nowhere until its done :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
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Were you riding it when it locked? Hope not!
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Thankfully they didn't lock up,but it took me 35 mins to do a 15 min journey last nite coming home from work! So glad these bike have hazard lights. :D :D
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Were you riding it when it locked? Hope not!
Think he meant locked up as in secure, chained, garaged, etc.
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I was on my way to the ferry at Dover for a weeks touring abroad when the rear bearings went, just after the sun had gone down. Initially it felt like I was riding over a concrete road with a gap between the blocks, bump bump bump. Tyre pressure was, so checked for play and it was that. Called the AA and when the bloke came he said bearings gone, but couldn't give me a lift to Dover as he didn't have the kit to tie it down or some other such excuse. He said ride slowly, it was only about 10 miles, he would follow behind. So I rode to the B&B, it made hell of a din screeching. Next morning took it to a bike repair shop and they said the heat generated had welded part of the bearing to the wheel and would have to get the welder on it to heat it the bearing up to free it, it might ruin the wheel, was it ok for them to continue? Luckily they managed to fix it with no damage.
I'd never ride a bike anywhere again if that happened again, as much from the safety angle as damage.
I was going to take it up with the AA but when I got home from holiday had dismissed it as one of those things.
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Well this is what's left of the right side front wheel bearing, Thinking i had a lucky escape!!!!
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I think you made the right call parking it up TBH, it amazes me the amount of people who can be aware of issues like this but choose still to ride. I know a lot of us use our bikes as our main transport but it really isnt worth it. its not like a car where 1 dodgy wheel bearing and you still have 3 good wheels to keep you relatively safe.
good to see you have found your issue and gotten it sorted anyway buddy :)
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Yeah that'll cause you problems! :lol
At least you got it sorted. :)
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Cheers :thumbup :thumbup :thumbup
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The right side seems to be the one that fails because the protective dust seal lets muck in and that grinds away at the bearing whereas the left bearing is usually still smooth because it's covered by the speedo drive so muck can't get in at it. Packing the right side with grease every now and then would probably help a lot at preventing a failure. It's worth doing with your new bearings too to keep them in top condition.
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The right side seems to be the one that fails because the protective dust seal lets muck in and that grinds away at the bearing whereas the left bearing is usually still smooth because it's covered by the speedo drive so muck can't get in at it. Packing the right side with grease every now and then would probably help a lot at preventing a failure. It's worth doing with your new bearings too to keep them in top condition.
Or just get sealed bearings instead of open ones?
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The right side seems to be the one that fails because the protective dust seal lets muck in and that grinds away at the bearing whereas the left bearing is usually still smooth because it's covered by the speedo drive so muck can't get in at it. Packing the right side with grease every now and then would probably help a lot at preventing a failure. It's worth doing with your new bearings too to keep them in top condition.
Or just get sealed bearings instead of open ones?
Think they are sealed. Can't remember for sure though