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Title: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 04:43:25 pm
Best place to find them I can't find them anywhere wemoto eBay etc or are they called something else.
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: unfazed on 12 July 2014, 05:28:03 pm
Best place to find them I can't find them anywhere wemoto eBay etc or are they called something else.

You cannot buy leads on their own, you will need to buy the coil and leads as one item.
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 05:36:27 pm
Bloody hell wonder if I can find some breaking one
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 05:42:22 pm
does anyone know as your sat on the bike which number the far right coil is? 1-4 or 2-3.
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: unfazed on 12 July 2014, 07:12:47 pm
What exactly is the problem???

As you sit on the bike 1 is on you left 4 on you right.
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 08:46:41 pm
Number 4 has tore in half causing my dad to have a major lumpy ride home from glassen dock today
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: woodwizzard on 12 July 2014, 08:54:09 pm
Could you use these? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-LEAD-REPAIR-CONNECTOR-JOINER-FOR-8MM-7MM-LEAD-HT-LEADS-X-1-CONNNECTOR-/111284150310?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e90d6026 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGNITION-LEAD-REPAIR-CONNECTOR-JOINER-FOR-8MM-7MM-LEAD-HT-LEADS-X-1-CONNNECTOR-/111284150310?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e90d6026)
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 08:56:29 pm
It's the rubber but that has ripped in half not the lead great idea tho mate thanks.maybe I will have to buy the £40 eBay ones
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: unfazed on 12 July 2014, 09:00:49 pm
Number 4 has tore in half causing my dad to have a major lumpy ride home from glassen dock today
Exlain what you mean by tore in half. Has the plug lead come away from the plug cap?
 
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 12 July 2014, 09:06:48 pm
The top part which goes over the spark plug has ripped managed to push back on a seemed to work ok for awhile but buy the time went 20miles or so bike was only running on 3 again. I think it's the rubber elbow bit not sure if it's all one piece or not and bike is at my dads so can't investigate further at the moment.there are a set for £40 on eBay and thinking it maybe the easiest  replacement tbh
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: unfazed on 12 July 2014, 10:24:30 pm
The plug cap is a separate part to the lead.

The cap screws on to the lead and they will come apart if pulled by the lead instead of the rubber on the plug cap.

Cut 5mm off the lead and push it into the cap and then twist the cap clockwise while pushing the lead in. It will eventually tighten a bit then push the cap back on the plug.

This picture is a full plug cap on its own. The rubbery part at the top is to seal against water ingress.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/MAYAAOSwFTRTqZMC/$_57.JPG)
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 13 July 2014, 01:36:59 am
Unfazed that's exactly the bit I need I'll look up the part in the morning. Thanks that's great
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: brooker81 on 13 July 2014, 09:10:09 am
£80 for 1 cool cap from wemoto/ajsutton I'm gonna go to hills Tuesday and get a used set I think
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: unfazed on 13 July 2014, 09:29:18 am
Check ebay or Fazerspares plenty secondhand ones around.

When looking check the 2001 R1 as it has the same plug caps.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS1000-Fazer-5LV-2002-2004-1-4-Ignition-Coils-Leads-Caps-/331141104232?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4d198c4268 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-FZS1000-Fazer-5LV-2002-2004-1-4-Ignition-Coils-Leads-Caps-/331141104232?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item4d198c4268)

http://www.fazerspares.com/catalogue/147-1_electrical.htm (http://www.fazerspares.com/catalogue/147-1_electrical.htm)
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: solorider on 13 July 2014, 09:29:55 pm
this is what I did to mine, got rid of the coils with leads as mine had corroded internally on the plug cap

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(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj38/solorider_uk/IMG_3740.jpg) (http://s268.photobucket.com/user/solorider_uk/media/IMG_3740.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: AyJay on 13 July 2014, 10:21:12 pm
Hell's bells. I thought I had the most corroded Fazer cam box cover. I must try harder.
Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: gixersix on 13 July 2014, 11:18:54 pm
this is what I did to mine, got rid of the coils with leads as mine had corroded internally on the plug cap





Hey Solo,
which model did you get the CoP coils from? Do they seal or did you have to modify?
I note that Multi-gauge Christian has a section on these on his website - something about there not being enough power to run wasted-spark ignition?
Can't believe the 2000-on R1 and the Fazer AREN'T coil-on-plug - my 1997 GSXR600 is.

Title: Re: Gen 1 ignition leads/ht lead
Post by: solorider on 14 July 2014, 08:18:53 pm
this is what I did to mine, got rid of the coils with leads as mine had corroded internally on the plug cap





Hey Solo,
which model did you get the CoP coils from? Do they seal or did you have to modify?
I note that Multi-gauge Christian has a section on these on his website - something about there not being enough power to run wasted-spark ignition?
Can't believe the 2000-on R1 and the Fazer AREN'T coil-on-plug - my 1997 GSXR600 is.

The coils I have are off a Kawasaki and I have a set of honda CBR600 coils as well, the ohms are the same, as to wiring don't wire the logical way, the bike won't run, you have to wire in series, there is a few topics with wiring diagrams online, the yamaha coils have a boot to stop water getting into the plug holes big are not as common when buying a set of 4, and I don't know of the ohms are the same, you can also run suzuki coils as well.