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Title: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 16 June 2014, 12:36:55 pm
Anyone near(ish) Luton or Hemel Hempstead willing to let me borrow (take away or use at your gaff) some gauges to balance my carbs?


I've had my bike 2 years now and this has been on the list of things to do for a long time.  I was planning to get some gauges myself, but an ever increasing price of repairing my Camaro means I've not got the spare cash to do so until next year (if I'm lucky)
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 16 June 2014, 02:22:37 pm
I'd just like to say I don't have a set but I need to balance mine too and I'm in your area, give me a heads up if you borrow a set as I'd like to come do mine at the same Time!
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 June 2014, 04:03:39 pm
I would offer... but I'm not in the same area... yet...

I'm planning to move to Hertfordshire area (close-ish to Luton) as of early to mid next month. So if you've had no luck by then, I should be able to assist :)
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Farjo on 16 June 2014, 05:35:46 pm
Either of you work in central or south London?
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 17 June 2014, 12:27:09 pm
Either of you work in central or south London?


No, I work in Hemel.  I can travel a bit further from there, but needs be to be 20mins or less, so I can get there and back in a lunch break.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Oldgit on 17 June 2014, 01:29:32 pm
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Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 17 June 2014, 02:25:53 pm
Farjo I despatch in London, you offering to let us borrow a set?
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Exupnut on 17 June 2014, 02:36:16 pm

Farjo I despatch in London, you offering to let us borrow a set?

Your not a despatch rider any more.... Your a Goldstar handlebar assistant :-)
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 17 June 2014, 03:07:58 pm
I shan't be phoning you tonight then!
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Farjo on 17 June 2014, 09:59:24 pm
Farjo I despatch in London, you offering to let us borrow a set?
Yes; where in London do you dispatch?
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 17 June 2014, 10:00:46 pm
All over, pm me an address
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Farjo on 17 June 2014, 10:36:12 pm
Done. Do either of you know how to use them?
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 17 June 2014, 11:11:08 pm
I've used carbtune several times in past, I believe normal gauges are the same, just different readout
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: kawasutra on 18 June 2014, 11:53:00 am
If I want to balance mine as well, does this then turn into a LoFo meet?  :b


(am 20ish minutes from Luton)


happy to contribute in any way possible, maybe use my cameras to do a video of how to balance carbs (bike specific)??
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Arfa on 18 June 2014, 12:01:29 pm
I've also got a pair of CarbTune gauges. Based in East London, work near London Bridge. However Midden's currently borrowing them... Shall have to see if he's finished with them. :)


BTW, there's a good video of balancing a Fazer 600 linked to on the CarbTune website.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 18 June 2014, 12:40:08 pm
Done. Do either of you know how to use them?


No, but Punkstig will have a chance to work them out before I get there  :D


If it's the gauge type, rather then Carbtune, I think you need to calibrate each gauge to a single cylinder first. Then hook them all up and tune 2-3, 1-2, 3-4 ??


 
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: savvy on 18 June 2014, 08:33:50 pm
Ref setting all gauges to calibrate the same vacuum, I have the 4 round gauge type and used a 4 into 1 connector from a fish tank air pump and connected all the gauges together on the 4 and fed the single pipe to no' 1 take off and adjusted them to read the same vacuum reading. you can buy them from pet stores, they push together to form a strip.
 Hope this explains it.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: red98 on 18 June 2014, 08:50:17 pm
Top tip savvy....my tubes need replacing, I now know where to go   :thumbup
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Farjo on 18 June 2014, 10:51:57 pm
Mine are the Morgan Carbtune ones.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 19 June 2014, 03:42:22 pm
Ok guys, I've met up with the delightful Farjo and am now in possession of his carbtune set, when are we doing this- Saturday? And where?
I would invite you all round mine but someone will probably fall in the cut!
Also, do you have the long no. 2 Phillips screwdriver that is apparently necessary to do this?
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Ebme Geek on 19 June 2014, 05:14:10 pm
When I did mine, I borrowed a carbtune, thought all was going well but then got a bit suspicious about their accuracy, so I would expand on what Savvy has said and what ever type they are check them first by commoning the channels together and running them off 1 cylinder
 
see here   http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7429.msg71225.html#msg71225 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7429.msg71225.html#msg71225)
 
 
As I said on the other post  :  check your tool before using it  :lol
 
 
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 19 June 2014, 06:33:30 pm
Saturday is good for me, but only if you can come to my place in Luton. My wife is on call, and if she had to go out I will be in charge of the kids,  so can't travel anywhere.

They'll be space on the drive and a well stocked tool kit, including a 25cm No2 screwdriver. 

Let me know if you're OK with this and I can PM my address and phone number.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Punkstig on 19 June 2014, 07:16:06 pm
That's good for me and tbh the earlier the better as I have loads to sort on the barge, please pm me when you can
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Farjo on 20 June 2014, 08:10:48 am
It's a lot of noise - engines running and revving every 5 seconds, so on a driveway outside a house with kids in a suburban area is maybe not ideal?

Adam it was delightful to meet you too :kiss If you check the accuracy of the gauges then that'll be a fair swap :thumbup

ps now that you have a set you should create a new thread in Events to et a date  :smash (or I could move this one if you prefer?)
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 20 June 2014, 09:11:45 am
That's good for me and tbh the earlier the better as I have loads to sort on the barge, please pm me when you can


PM sent.   


I can be available from 9.30. 
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 20 June 2014, 09:14:03 am
It's a lot of noise - engines running and revving every 5 seconds, so on a driveway outside a house with kids in a suburban area is maybe not ideal?


It's either that or the angle grinder on my car, which is the other job for the day.  I'm very popular in my area  ;)

Quote from: Farjo
Adam it was delightful to meet you too :kiss If you check the accuracy of the gauges then that'll be a fair swap :thumbup


That answers that question, I wasn't sure whether I should call you punk or stig.  :rollin




I guess I'll be reading up on using Carbtune today
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Jamieg285 on 23 June 2014, 09:00:29 am
Big thanks to Farjo for the loan of the Carbtune gauges, and also to Punkstig for collecting them and bringing them over. 


The job was unbelievable frustrating, going backwards and forwards with the adjusters, with the slightest tweak on one affecting the others too.  It took us a good couple of hours to do both bikes, not including the extra time needed for some electrical problems on stigs bike.


For me, the difference is huge. The engine feels super smooth, from 2K up. I can cruise at 3-4K and it feels like I'm coasting with the engine off.  Even the rough spot around the 6K mark is less harsh than before.   


I've taken a few notes and pictures, which I'll post up on another thread, as a useful guide for others.
Title: Re: Can I borrow some carb balancing gauges?
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 June 2014, 03:56:58 pm
You definitely need a lot of patience to get the adjustment spot on, but the smoothness of the engine is worth it ^^

My 1000 was like riding on silk after I did it's balance a few months back :D