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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: scoobie_paws on 14 June 2014, 09:49:28 pm

Title: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: scoobie_paws on 14 June 2014, 09:49:28 pm
Hi all been fettling the new girl and noticed that she is quite rattly on tick over until I pull clutch and  then goes quiet.
Could this be cam chain tensioner? Thought that would continue clutch in or out but not sure
Is it normal or do I need to poke about in the clutch?

On plus side new conti road attack 2 tyres on today and feel nice but will run in tomorrow :-)  also new ebc hh pads at front as old ones had about a mm left :-\  tried to replace sprocket but with 12 mm but looks like a two man job as just turns motor over with breaker bar.... Still least it means old one won't come off anytime soon
Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: Andy FZS on 14 June 2014, 10:24:53 pm
It sounds like the clutch rattling it can often be improved by balancing the carbs.
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: scoobie_paws on 15 June 2014, 09:02:27 am
It sounds like the clutch rattling it can often be improved by balancing the carbs.
OK great. Would never have thought of that. Will give it a try :-)
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: HarryHornby on 17 June 2014, 09:34:26 am
mine's doing that too...... time to upset the neighbours by balancing my carbs...... unless anyone else has any other ideas....
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: mick0905 on 17 June 2014, 09:06:33 pm
I just joined the forum to search for the same problem. Mine sounds like a road whacker on tickover in neutral but the noise goes away when the clutch is pulled in. I've read posts on other sites saying this is "normal", is it really?  :rolleyes
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: unfazed on 18 June 2014, 12:26:49 am
They all rumble like that sir.  :lol

Typical of multiplate wet clutch in line fours, balancing the carbs helps, but never completely gets rid of it.

You should listen to an old SOHC 750-4 Honda
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: midden on 18 June 2014, 01:26:17 am
you could also try adjusting the clutch cable a little to take some of the slack.  May reduce it a little, no harm in trying.
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: mick0905 on 18 June 2014, 08:19:06 am
I need to hear another one. I seriously thought I'd bought a pup til I read it was "normal". What I don't know yet is how normal is normal.

The bike rides fine and selects all gears smoothly but I get the feeling when I'm stopped at traffic lights that everyone is looking round to see where the racket is coming from.

I'll see if I can upload a video of mine running to Youtube so you can compare it to yours scoobie.
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: His Dudeness on 18 June 2014, 12:35:07 pm
I need to hear another one. I seriously thought I'd bought a pup til I read it was "normal". What I don't know yet is how normal is normal.

The bike rides fine and selects all gears smoothly but I get the feeling when I'm stopped at traffic lights that everyone is looking round to see where the racket is coming from.

I'll see if I can upload a video of mine running to Youtube so you can compare it to yours scoobie.

Maybe your clutch basket is a bit worn and the plates are rattling around a bit
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: mick0905 on 06 July 2014, 03:37:16 pm
Took mine on an 80 mile ride today and the noise is seriously disturbing, spoiling what would otherwise have been an enjoyable ride but I had the constant nagging at the back of my mind that it was going to self destruct at any minute. :\

I've uploaded a video to YouTube demonstrating the noise in neutral with clutch in/out. Do they all *really* sound like this??  :eek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwYwGKsg9E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwYwGKsg9E)
Title: Re: rattle on tick over until clutch pulled
Post by: unfazed on 06 July 2014, 04:47:51 pm
That is most certainly not your normal Fazer clutch rumble and they definitely do not all sound anything like that. :eek
Buy a clutch cover gasket, put the bike on the side stand (saves having to drain the oil) and take off the clutch cover and have a good look at the clutch, Sounds like something broken or badly worn.
If necessary take out the plates and check everything inside there. You could have a loose of broken clutch bolt.
If the clutch was changed there is a good chance  the clutch bolts were over tighten and one was stripped.