Fazer Owners Club - Unofficial
Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: msewelly on 01 May 2014, 11:48:55 am
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Hi,
I currently have Bridgestone BT021's fitted but they are running low so I am looking at a new set, are there any other brands that have a good tyre that handles well in the bends but also is suitable for about town?
Thanks
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I have the Bt023 front and rear on mine. Used in wet and dry conditions. Very good tyres, grip is fantastic :)
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Another tyre thread :'(
BT023s here. If you are happy with the 21s why look elsewhere - just get another set.
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Yup BT023, or it's replacement the T30, or it's competitor the PR2 or PR3 would all be good all round choices.
I'd be happy with any of the above and would choose between them simply based on price and availability locally.
Andy
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The ones hanging over the sides of barges .
I ask a guy how long he had out of them and he said 25 years and counting
I getting me some of them :lol
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If you like a bit of a scratch (as we all do from time to time :angel ), but mostly just ride around at normal speeds, then most decent sport touring tyres will do you well.
Had good if not similar results from PR3, Contimotions, bt021, bt023. I've used Maxxis supermax for commuting and a little scratching, currently use and very heavily abuse Maxxis Diamonds on the FZ1. A very good tyre despite what the armchair critics say!!
Had similar wear out of them within a few hundred miles or thereabouts. I get about 5-6k out of a rear on the 600, and 2-3k out of the thou :eek
I don't think you can really go wrong with any of them, it's mostly down to budget and what the latest media hype is really.
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Stevie and I always argue about this! :lol
I had a set of Maxxis Supermaxx on my Fazer 6, and hated them. They squared fast, and when half worn, I found the rear squirmed when cornering had, and really nasty in the wet.
I was really happy when I slung them in the bin!!
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I think were going to have to agree to disagree about maxxis Christo, even though I have been riding bikes longer than you've been alive :P
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Stevie and I always argue about this! :lol
I had a set of Maxxis Supermaxx on my Fazer 6, and hated them. They squared fast, and when half worn, I found the rear squirmed when cornering had, and really nasty in the wet.
I was really happy when I slung them in the bin!!
The supermaxx touring type ones Christo? I fecking hate them as well - had them to start with on the FZS1000 I had and they span up very easily even in the dry, the wet was just another matter entirely.
From personal experience, depending on your riding I'd either be going for.
1.) Pirelli Angel GT - Hard wearing, not bad in the wet, but bloody brilliant in the dry (not far off sports tyres on the road to be honest - and I'm on a bigger bike too which gives them a fair bit of a hard time under acceleration
2.) Michelin Pilot Road 3 (or maybe 4, but not tried those - also hard wearing, bloody brilliant in the wet, but feel a bit less sporty and I don't like them in the dry if I'm trying to press on - the rear end in particular feels a bit vague, and I've had it break away a couple times with next to no warning when really cracking on - again about, 145hp at the wheel does do that!
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Best all round tyres?
Ok as no one else has stepped up for I will. Best all round tyres? I thought that tyres are round all the way around
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I just got PR3's & they dont feel as sticcky as the diablo 2's i had before......but ive managed to lean them over just as much and not even hot yet so they must be pretty good.....if pricey.
On my Thou there is also PR3's and the previous owner has had them on the track and they have chewed so i now know they arent too hard a compound to go quick on.............plus i had the most confidence inspiring wet ride ever on them on Thursday so their wet performance is also great.....& apparently they last for ages....tbc.
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On my Thou
oooh oooh listen to you now all "on my thou"
Actually I was looking at some guys tyres and talking and I said yourve been giving them some corners havent you - because they were all chewed up on the edges, And he told me errr no, he brought them second hand off a racer who did that to them on a track, so it may not always be the last owner that was doing the hero antics and that was a thou also
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On my Thou
oooh oooh listen to you now all "on my thou"
Actually I was looking at some guys tyres and talking and I said yourve been giving them some corners havent you - because they were all chewed up on the edges, And he told me errr no, he brought them second hand off a racer who did that to them on a track, so it may not be the last owner that was doing the hero antics and that was a thou also
:b :b :b
Ye im gonna hate getting rid o those tyres....no more pretending to be the man at cafe stops :lol
It also has a nurburgring sticker.....i said to Chris id have to replace it with a "Neverbeen" sticker........but as he says it's the bike thats been, not the rider & i dont have a nurburgring patch on my jacket.....i do have a Vietnam Vet campaign badge though coz i seen some shit......but i dont like to talk about it :D
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+1 for the anti Maxxis thing... :lol
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8) 8) 8)
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+1 for the anti Maxxis thing... :lol
Anti Maxxis, you don't know what your missing!
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/04/a6e4e6es.jpg)
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maxxis supermaxx on my thou at the minute - not had any issues yet, a bit squirmy on the corners, but Ive put that down to the road as opposed to the tyre thus far
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There can be a big difference in tyres but for your average road rider I think a lot of tyre confidence is in your head. If everyone says a certain tyre is great you're going to trust the tyre and be more confident and relaxed on the bike whereas if you think you've got rubbish tyres you're far more likely not to trust them and bail out through corners or get on the brakes early or stiffen up when it gets a bit wet because you've convinced yourself they're rubbish. In reality if you gave the same tyre to a really good rider he'd probably push them much harder than you would with no problems
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There can be a big difference in tyres but for your average road rider I think a lot of tyre confidence is in your head. If everyone says a certain tyre is great you're going to trust the tyre and be more confident and relaxed on the bike whereas if you think you've got rubbish tyres you're far more likely not to trust them and bail out through corners or get on the brakes early or stiffen up when it gets a bit wet because you've convinced yourself they're rubbish. In reality if you gave the same tyre to a really good rider he'd probably push them much harder than you would with no problems
No seriously the Maxxis were cr@p :b ... and Stevie I wouldnt knock 'em If I hadnt tried 'em ;)
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There can be a big difference in tyres but for your average road rider I think a lot of tyre confidence is in your head. If everyone says a certain tyre is great you're going to trust the tyre and be more confident and relaxed on the bike whereas if you think you've got rubbish tyres you're far more likely not to trust them and bail out through corners or get on the brakes early or stiffen up when it gets a bit wet because you've convinced yourself they're rubbish. In reality if you gave the same tyre to a really good rider he'd probably push them much harder than you would with no problems
Touche his dudeness! Couldn't have said it better myself!
All you need to do is look at the tyres race bikes had in the 60's/70's/80's, They were shit! Our s/t tyres today have more grip, but 90% of riders can't get close to their limits, and on the road, SHOULDN'T get anywhere near that. It's all in their heads, and skills.
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No seriously the Maxxis were cr@p :b ... and Stevie I wouldnt knock 'em If I hadnt tried 'em ;)
I bet you used the supermax. I've been using them for commuting, and they do ok. I don't boot it in the wet, as it's not worth it.
The diamonds are a different kettle of fish though.
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Yup Supermaxx.. Bizarrely Mate had a set of Maxxis sport similar time and couldnt wait to bin them too..
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Yup Supermaxx.. Bizarrely Mate had a set of Maxxis sport similar time and couldnt wait to bin them too..
+1.
I used the Supermaxx too, and have only ever slagged them off.
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Yup Supermaxx.. Bizarrely Mate had a set of Maxxis sport similar time and couldnt wait to bin them too..
Now that's wierd, the sport tyres are supposed to be quite good, because certain race schools use them with a lot of success.
I can't say I've used them though, they're quite soft and wouldn't last me 5 minutes. I only get 2500 ish out of s/t tyres!!!!
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This stuff crops up with cars too....my last car I replaced the standard Dunlops for the cheapest of the cheap the tyre fitters could find me...I think £45 a tyre...........result.....just as good as the originals.
Plus the best tyres for me on the bike were the things I had when I first got it....Michellin Macadams......I mean who's foccin ever heard of them..but I loved them
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Cop bikes used Macadams on the pan Europeans and BMW RT's right up to the point where they couldn't get hold of them anymore.
It took a lot of skill and control to throw a 270+kg bike around on them buggers. They used to grind the bottoms of the panniers, catch the exhaust system, and catch sports bikes on them! Got to warm them up though, a bit squirmy when cold. :-[
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Yup Supermaxx.. Bizarrely Mate had a set of Maxxis sport similar time and couldnt wait to bin them too..
Now that's wierd, the sport tyres are supposed to be quite good, because certain race schools use them with a lot of success.
I can't say I've used them though, they're quite soft and wouldn't last me 5 minutes. I only get 2500 ish out of s/t tyres!!!!
Not slating Maxxis in general as I do kind of like their product on my mountain bike :D
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Yup Supermaxx.. Bizarrely Mate had a set of Maxxis sport similar time and couldnt wait to bin them too..
Now that's wierd, the sport tyres are supposed to be quite good, because certain race schools use them with a lot of success.
I can't say I've used them though, they're quite soft and wouldn't last me 5 minutes. I only get 2500 ish out of s/t tyres!!!!
Must admit I quite liked the Maxxis supersports, although not their lifetime (I got about 2000 miles out of the rear on my ZX9R, and it was completely shagged). In the dry, they were good and sticky, and weren't too bad in the wet either, unless you tried to lean the bike over too far as there just wasn't any tread on the edge of the tyre. CHap before me hadn't ever had the bike that far over judging from the chicken strips, and the first time I leant it over in the wet, with no tread, on a new bit of tyre, and then tried to accelerate led to the biggest slide I think I've ever had - ended up somehow catching just enough of the weight on my knee to keep it sliding until I managed to get it upright and it regripped!
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the first time I leant it over in the wet, with no tread, on a new bit of tyre, and then tried to accelerate led to the biggest slide I think I've ever had -
I'm not friggin suprised. I bet you sh@ ya pants!
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Ive put about 600 miles on my Pilot road 3's now......they are certainly a bit tougher & im not quite as confident as i was with the Rosso 2's........however i am gaining confidence on them & we've yet to get into the proper hot weather.
Still got quite a bit of chicken strip yet.....more than my Rosso 2 had.
Ill keep a record and take a pic after the summer for comparison.
Oh & i couldnt see this thread not have a memes.......so i made one just for you stevie :lol
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Fitted a pair of maxxis supermaxx to my 600 boxeye after 12 yrs of swapping between bridgestone and dunlop,300 miles over thelast two days and not puut a foot wrong, very stable and grippy, I'll have to see how long they last....
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This is good we can get some good comparisons going then.
How cheap are these Maxxis then?....in hindsight i think £260 for a set of pilot 3's is a bit pricey considering i dont do mega miles.
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You'll pay less than £200 for a set of diamonds.
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Oh & i couldnt see this thread not have a memes.......so i made one just for you stevie :lol
Just saw the picture on my computer (couldn't see it on my phone), nearly pissed myself! :rollin