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Title: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 02:11:16 pm
Need some help. Bike is fired up and sounds good - I need to sort downpipes as smoke coming out at head slightly (I think it must just not be sealed tight enough?)


Anyway, is it me or is my engine ticking/chugging or does it sound fine?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zynR27eDMLo&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zynR27eDMLo&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 21 April 2014, 02:16:43 pm
Does it go away when you pull the clutch in?
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 02:17:32 pm
I'll go check. Is it abnormal though? Just don't know if being paranoid.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 21 April 2014, 02:19:33 pm
If it goes away when you pull the clutch in it's normal. A carb balance will help stop it
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 02:25:08 pm
Yeah it does
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: stevie-g1968 on 21 April 2014, 02:25:34 pm
yep, that's the clutch....sounds like a ducati :rollin.. mine does it and its normal.
it should go when the clutch is pulled in, a carb balance may help?..ive not balanced mine as im not  overly worried about the noise.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 21 April 2014, 02:29:27 pm
No harm giving the carbs a balance then. You can notch the clutch basket if you leave it too long but it would take quite a while.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 04:14:09 pm
So what is it?
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 04:14:49 pm
And how easy is carb balance
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 21 April 2014, 06:25:54 pm
And how easy is carb balance

Easy enough ;) Carbs out, tie some string around the carbs and hang them off a flat surface. If it hangs to the left add some weights on the right, if it hangs to the right add some to the left until it's balanced. Make sure you use a spirit level when you install them back on the bike ;)
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 06:26:55 pm
I haven't got a spirit level. Will have to make something using wood and ball bearings :p
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 06:33:45 pm
I just done check. Looks easy enough. But could you explain what it is causing this and how balancing would fix, just for understanding. Thanks
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 21 April 2014, 07:12:39 pm
They all rattle a bit at idle. The smoother you're engine is running the less they'll rattle. By syncing the carbs you're ensuring the engine is running as smooth as possible. It's not going to cure it 100%. It'll just reduce it
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 21 April 2014, 07:43:47 pm
So how did dipping clutch stop the noise
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 22 April 2014, 05:16:23 pm
OK. I have the clutch noise which send to have gotten slightly worse since yesterday. It goes away when I dip the clutch, but I'm planning on balancing tonight.

I however have a second ticking. Quieter, possibly faster than the clutch noise. I hear it sat idling, not sure if exist while on the move. If I select first, find the bite and push to counter it (so engine slightly pulling against my grounded legs) it goes.

Not sure if this noise existed before, couldn't say I noticed.

Any clues
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: CRH on 22 April 2014, 05:31:34 pm
OK. I have the clutch noise which send to have gotten slightly worse since yesterday. It goes away when I dip the clutch, but I'm planning on balancing tonight.

I however have a second ticking. Quieter, possibly faster than the clutch noise. I hear it sat idling, not sure if exist while on the move. If I select first, find the bite and push to counter it (so engine slightly pulling against my grounded legs) it goes.

Not sure if this noise existed before, couldn't say I noticed.

Any clues
.......yes take off your fkn ..watch!! :D
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: johna6968 on 22 April 2014, 05:33:13 pm
By its nature fzs never really been a quiet motor.. Should that ticking develope into a loud bang followed by silence, then worry  :thumbup
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 22 April 2014, 05:33:22 pm
I'll see what balancing the carbs does. It is a little vibratey on the whole but other than that seems to be smooth.

Should I expect some noise from the cam chain or should it be silent. Not sure if being paranoid.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: CRH on 22 April 2014, 05:35:04 pm
And how easy is carb balance

Easy enough ;) Carbs out, tie some string around the carbs and hang them off a flat surface. If it hangs to the left add some weights on the right, if it hangs to the right add some to the left until it's balanced. Make sure you use a spirit level when you install them back on the bike ;)
....dude?..you are a fkn genius!! ;) ...never knew you could do it that way!! :rolleyes
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 22 April 2014, 05:48:35 pm
Carbs out? It's easier doing the right way lol
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: clayt74 on 22 April 2014, 05:50:56 pm
And how easy is carb balance

Easy enough ;) Carbs out, tie some string around the carbs and hang them off a flat surface. If it hangs to the left add some weights on the right, if it hangs to the right add some to the left until it's balanced. Make sure you use a spirit level when you install them back on the bike ;)
....dude?..you are a fkn genius!! ;) ...never knew you could do it that way!! :rolleyes

Can you balance ya tyres the same way?? :o

Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: darrsi on 23 April 2014, 06:06:22 am
Have a quick glance around your engine mounting bolts, and make sure they're all as should be.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 23 April 2014, 08:15:27 am
Will do. There's also a slight whirring noise (quiet though, and only sometimes) when decelerating.


I'm probably just being paranoid as the bike seems to be running pretty sweet.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 23 April 2014, 01:55:18 pm
A slight whirring noise when decelerating means the wheels are about to fall off
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 23 April 2014, 02:09:55 pm
Both of them? Oh, snap. How unusual both will fall off at same time.
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 23 April 2014, 02:19:14 pm
this chap had a slight whirring sound on deceleration too

front wheel fell off (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1nTtSRJ2dg#)
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: HarryHornby on 23 April 2014, 03:19:56 pm
If you take the front wheel off and wheely everywhere that stops ALL rattles from the engine because the engine is tilted back more, (something to do with gravity pushing all the joints together, or something) also, good for speed cameras because your numberplate is pointing more towards the floor this way!  :b
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 23 April 2014, 03:27:56 pm
Dudeness, I see where you are coming from - mine is a slightly higher pitched whine so not sure it's that. Actually, come to think of it - it only happens when the wife is pillion.....  :rollin
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: darrsi on 23 April 2014, 03:33:53 pm
Are you on about the general gearbox whine?
That's the reason i immediately took off the stock exhaust to drown it out with a noisier one!
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 23 April 2014, 10:49:57 pm
Possibly, not used to quietness like this. It does sound like gearbox though
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 25 April 2014, 08:28:04 am
OK so I balanced the carbs last night. They weren't too far out but it needed doing. Anyway, got them done - engine does feel a little smoother to ride but I still have that noise coming from clutch.

Can this be safely ignored or do I need to take some other action?
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: His Dudeness on 25 April 2014, 12:44:06 pm
It's fine. If you're really worried about it bring it to a mechanic and let him listen to it
Title: Re: Ticking?
Post by: hightower on 25 April 2014, 01:18:19 pm
It's due for an MOT in a month, so will just get it listened to then.


Thanks for help.