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Title: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: papercutout on 08 April 2014, 05:11:22 pm
It's a bit strange really isn't it? I can pop her into neutral easy as pie once the engine is turned off, but with it running I cannot get her into neutral from 1st, I tend to stick her in 2nd and give her a tiny kick down.


I've got my clutch biting point pretty close to the bars, could this be the cause? Any other idea's?
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: His Dudeness on 08 April 2014, 06:06:13 pm
How's your chain? A slack chain can cause this problem. Also try slackening your clutch cable a little. That will bring the biting point of the clutch back closer to the handlebar
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: dazza on 08 April 2014, 07:15:40 pm
Tick over too low ? My bike does this if the idle revs are too low.
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: johna6968 on 08 April 2014, 07:23:36 pm
If the clutch biting point is almost at the bars then I would say its in need of adjustment and wont be helping the problem..
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: papercutout on 08 April 2014, 08:05:33 pm
I'll be riding to work very shortly (damn night shifts), so I'll adjust the biting point then, and we'll have to see.

The chain is fine, I retensioned it the other day. Tickover seems fine too. About 1K.
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: dazza on 08 April 2014, 09:04:31 pm
I could be wrong but 1k sounds low to me, it's certainly too low for a thou, don't know about the 600's. Can anyone confirm this ? .
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: johna6968 on 08 April 2014, 09:05:53 pm
Usually aim for 1200 rpm idle (hot)...
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: Punkstig on 08 April 2014, 11:25:43 pm
There should only be 5mm freeplay at the clutch lever.

You obviously don't do many clutchup wheelies with the biting point back there! ;)

Oh, and I assume you're using four fingers not two!
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: fazersharp on 08 April 2014, 11:43:21 pm
Biting point sounds a little too much.  Somtimes when comming to a quick stop I can find- finding netural being a bit iffy somtimes, maybe because im lost as to what gear im in or was when I stopped.
I think I end up doing what you do and from 1st kick up to 2nd and then "tap" down but I think its only when Ive stopped in a hurry.
Title: Re: Bike doesn't want to go into neutral when running...?
Post by: papercutout on 09 April 2014, 07:33:23 pm
I adjusted the biting point out a little last night, and there was no difference. I'll do it a bit further tonight to see if that helps.


I don't do any wheelies, I know my limits, and I'd rather not make a tit of myself ;) (5mm isn't that comfortable, I ride the bike in all weathers, and when it was bitterly cold I wanted as little movement of my fingers from the heated grips as possible! lol)