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General => General => Topic started by: locksmith on 01 April 2014, 04:42:07 pm
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I thought I'd got rid of the stupid idea of getting an MT-09
Until I saw this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401070857741/sort/pricedesc/usedbikes/model/mt/make/yamaha/postcode/da118re/quicksearch/true/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p (http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401070857741/sort/pricedesc/usedbikes/model/mt/make/yamaha/postcode/da118re/quicksearch/true/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p)
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That looks very nice! Think the wheels need a bit more black on them though. Maybe YAMAHA written in black on the dish of the wheel.
Very nice though.
Chris
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They certainly look the biz :)
I also like yellow. Orange better but yellow :thumbup
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I love it!
Saw this and was very tempted. Just can't bring myself to commuting on it and doing about 17k/year. It'd ruin it.
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Phwoar! That looks really nice!
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I'm the same as stevierst. It would look crap by next year if I commuted
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Now that's a weekend bike. Love it!!
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This is the sort of bling i'm after 8)
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This is the sort of bling i'm after 8)
Go on....do it!!!
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This is the sort of bling i'm after 8)
Out wiv ya wallet, son!
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I've just added that place to my front page on my ipad.
I'm all for some discreet gunmetal greys & matt colours but what the foc's goin on at the moment...there just isnt enough cool as focness going around....stuff like this is exactly what the bike market needs.
Kawasaki Z800 is my firm favourite at the moment..it looks cool & aggresive...but if i thought both bikes were just as good i'd choose this MT09 because of the colour scheme alone.
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Kawasaki Z800 is my firm favourite at the moment..it looks cool & aggresive...but if i thought both bikes were just as good i'd choose this MT09 because of the colour scheme alone.
The more I look at it the more I like it. IMO it was the only truly distinctive naked on the market at the moment until I saw this.
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Damm dam dam I've got a test ride on one this afternoon.
Just curious, I don't need to change and I'll probably hate it anyway, so there.
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Damm dam dam I've got a test ride on one this afternoon.
Just curious, I don't need to change and I'll probably hate it anyway, so there.
Does your yam dealer charge you £500 for a test ride (you get it back if you dont bin it)
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Damm dam dam I've got a test ride on one this afternoon.
Just curious, I don't need to change and I'll probably hate it anyway, so there.
Can you let me know how you get on with the tank please locksmith?....when i sat on it my legs seemed a bit too low around the tank.
I know they are wheelie monsters but can you say how the front end feels ie does it feel a bit light on the corners?.
I really should just get a test ride n'all...im off to the dealer on the 14th so ill blag one then if the weather is eventually decent & put up what i reckon.
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Didn't even tell me to bring my licence on the phone (I will of course), I'm imagining there's a hefty excess if you bin it, I know they had the MT9 damaged in the first week!!
I'll let you know my thoughts on the tank and anything else I like/don't like.
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Didn't even tell me to bring my licence on the phone (I will of course), I'm imagining there's a hefty excess if you bin it, I know they had the MT9 damaged in the first week!!
I'll let you know my thoughts on the tank and anything else I like/don't like.
Cheers :thumbup ....ye they said to me both parts of the licence but the weather put me off.....& i think the excess is high hence i really want nice dry roads on a strange bike.
I wish i could take one home to use on my local b road blasting route, it's a bit difficult to test properly on unknown roads.
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Its just that my local wants £500 to cover his exces incase I bin it for him and with that over my head I dont fancy a "just see" try
Just curious, I don't need to change and I'll probably hate it anyway, so there.
Ive only got a single paper licence
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Its just that my local wants £500 to cover his exces incase I bin it for him and with that over my head I dont fancy a "just see" try
Just curious, I don't need to change and I'll probably hate it anyway, so there.
Ive only got a single paper licence
I think that's illegal mate....sure everyone is supposed to carry both parts at all times...although hardly anyone does, including me...but i can still produce it if required.
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You missed the point --- its an origional paper only one
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It is a legal requirement that you update the photo on the card license every ten years. Therefore I would guess that to still hold a paper only license is illegal, and the fines can be quite draconian.
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You missed the point --- its an origional paper only one
I thought it might be...but didnt think you were that old.
Pretty sure you're supposed to send off to update it...& cough up dosh.
& ye everyone with the photocard must update the pic every ten years...for more dosh the bastards!!!
Anyhow....all legal schmeegal meh ness....im sure a dealer would accept that you have the old dinosaur licence....they want your dosh too at the end of the day.££££££££££££££££
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It is a legal requirement that you update the photo on the card license every ten years. Therefore I would guess that to still hold a paper only license is illegal, and the fines can be quite draconian.
It might have changed but there was no requirement to update an old paper license unless you changed any details like address etc.
Worth checking on the dvla website though.
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It is a legal requirement that you update the photo on the card license every ten years. Therefore I would guess that to still hold a paper only license is illegal, and the fines can be quite draconian.
I have never had a photo licence - the one I have is a paper one from 1985
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Here's another nice MT09 pic. 8)
To distract us from how much of a criminal fazersharp is......clink clink fazersharp ;)
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A decent colour scheme really lifts the bike from blandness IMO. Does with most bikes in fact :D
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A decent colour scheme really lifts the bike from IMO. Does with most bikes in fact :D
You're calling a stock colour Fazer Thou bland? Thin ice, mate! :lol :lol :lol
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Nope im all good
http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/news/photocard-driving-licence-renewal.html (http://www.theaa.com/public_affairs/news/photocard-driving-licence-renewal.html)
Paper licences
If you still have a paper driving licence you don't have to worry about ten yearly updates though you must still notify DVLA of name or address changes.
Parliament has given powers to recall all paper licences so the more secure photocard licences will be held by everyone, but no date has been set for this and the government is well aware that it would be controversial to make everyone buy a new licence.
The AA has said that if the government insists on everyone changing, it should phase in such a move and subsidise the cost.
Keeping the details on your paper licence up to date will ensure that DVLA is able to tell you when this is happening and if you need to do something.
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A decent colour scheme really lifts the bike from IMO. Does with most bikes in fact :D
You're calling a stock colour Fazer Thou bland? Thin ice, mate! :lol :lol :lol
I would rather have one of the "bland" colours, than one that needs to be painted to make it look as if its going fast because its so horrifically slow :))
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Maybe one day you'll achieve that goal Mick ;) :lol
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I didnt like any of the launch colours but i am liking the white and red one with the white wheel stripe, I would like to see in in black with a silver decal
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Maybe one day you'll achieve that goal Mick ;) :lol
touche! :o
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Fazersharp...since you aint no criminal anymore then i agree with you...so e black & grey...subtle but smart.
Actually is there a name for a tarted up fazer with trick paint....like fa................Fajazzle!!!!............or am i thinking of something else :b .
"Look there's Nick riding a big mighty Fajazzle". :lol
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I think Nick's bike has just gained its name! :lol :lol
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I thought I'd got rid of the stupid idea of getting an MT-09
Until I saw this
[url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401070857741/sort/pricedesc/usedbikes/model/mt/make/yamaha/postcode/da118re/quicksearch/true/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p[/url] ([url]http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201401070857741/sort/pricedesc/usedbikes/model/mt/make/yamaha/postcode/da118re/quicksearch/true/radius/1500/page/1?logcode=p[/url])
Chris: "That looks very nice!"
Midden: "They certainly look the biz. I also like yellow".
stevierst: "I love it! Saw this and was very tempted."
ChristoT: Phwoar! That looks really nice!"
Frosties: "Love it!!"
noggythenog: "This is the sort of bling I'm after."
"I've just added that place to my front page on my ipad."
"isn't enough cool as focness going around....stuff like this is exactly what the bike market needs."
:D
I rest my case :rollin
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Well if you've all finished :lol
I've still got the original paper licence - no problems - it's legal.
There was a £1000 excess for the test bike, if you were to do something silly like drop it then you only pay for the damage, not an automatic £1000 fine! however this didn't distract from trying to get my knee down :)
Now remember I'm comparing to a gen2 FZ1 Fazer.
First impressions sitting on it was a very similar stance to the FZ1, only a bit narrower and no fairing bulk in front of you of course.
Controls all felt normal and familiar.
On the road it was really easy to ride. On the first bumpy twisty road it felt very light and bouncy but after a short while I forgot about that.
It certainly wants to lift the front wheel in first and second but isn't out of control, you can take off rapidly and keep the front wheel on the floor.
After reading pro rider reviews mentioning super moto feel, I was concerned that at the first bend I would want to put my leg out moto-stylee, however that was not the case, my knee was itching to stick out so a few roundabouts were circled more than once and I felt in total control at all times.
The power felt good and constant and more than I would ever need.
While writing, I ve just remembered it's a fly by wire throttle, I never noticed this at all, it felt completely normal to me.
On the switchable fi modes, I preferred the "soft" B mode, it felt more like I'm used to than either the std or A modes.
Brakes, the initial feel isn't as sharp as I'm used to but keep pulling the lever and it sure stops quickly.
It is very easy to ride fast on the twisties and around town. Not so ballistic as an FZ1 on the open roads. At 120 (ahemmm) the wind blast was pushing me back but the was no buffeting as you get around the Fazer fairing. I wouldn't fancy doing a lot of motorway work at those speeds but in reality I don't!
The display was clear and I love the gear indicator. Mirrors weren't bad, you could see what you needed behind.
I took it back, undecided, until I rode the FZ1 home. It felt a bit alien, totally lardy and un-flickable, gear change seemed harder and the bars seemed really narrow (I know they're not but the MT didn't feel wider).
I guess I want one :)
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This is why I'm reluctant to test ride anything locksmith - I wouldn't want to part with the Fazer, it just does so many things so well as a package, but I know there are plenty of bikes out there, that do some of those things much better, that I'd love to have too - but I CAN'T AFFORD THEM!! :'(
Not sure the MT-09 is what I'd have if I could afford something else too though. Well, I'm sure you can guess what I'd REALLY like to be able to afford!
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I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!
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Thanks for the review locksmith.
As a rider who's only had the 600 fazer & with the FZ1 as competition it is good to hear an FZ1 owners views on the MT.....plus a non journalist real world view.
Im looking forward to a test now.
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I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!
So, if you can afford pretty much whatever you want, why not keep the Gen 2 aswell. You could have the MT09 for the sunny sunday plaything. Go on, you only live once and you can't take it with you ;)
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I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!
So, if you can afford pretty much whatever you want, why not keep the Gen 2 aswell. You could have the MT09 for the sunny sunday plaything. Go on, you only live once and you can't take it with you ;)
Fair point. then there's no regret and if you find yourself over time never using the gen2 you will know to sell.
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Yeah, go on locksmith, live the dream all us paupers would like to! Do it for us :lol
2 bikes isn't excessive. Look at that greedy-guts red98; he's up to about 5 now :rolleyes
I would defo have 2 bikes in your position. The Fazer, cos I just love it, never tire of it; and the 2nd bike I'd chop and change as the fancy took me, try some new stuff, keep up with the modern stuff, see what they're all about.
You know it makes sense ;)
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It is a legal requirement that you update the photo on the card license every ten years. Therefore I would guess that to still hold a paper only license is illegal, and the fines can be quite draconian.
WRONG!
I still have my paper license and there is absolutely no obligation for me to turn it into a photocard one. It's entirely legal - insurance companies still accept photocopies of it for example.
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I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!
So, if you can afford pretty much whatever you want, why not keep the Gen 2 aswell. You could have the MT09 for the sunny sunday plaything. Go on, you only live once and you can't take it with you ;)
Fair point. then there's no regret and if you find yourself over time never using the gen2 you will know to sell.
But I can't justify to myself having two (fairly similar) road bikes . I do have the WR as well but that's not getting used.
I may keep the gen2 to sell privately so will have some breathing space if I get it terribly wrong :) but the missus wouldn't be too impressed :lol
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I know what you are saying Nick, fortunately I can afford pretty much what ever I want, but I don't. I have to justify it to myself, the amount I spend, what I will get out of it compared to the old one etc etc. I don't change just for the sake it and appreciate what I have got.
Bearing that in mind I have the same dilemma, the possibility of deeply regretting selling the Fazer!!!
I was going to be in the market for a new bike next year. However, having recently spent much dosh on my FZ1 (new generator, new can, new tyres, chain & sprockets, braided hoses etc.), I'm postponing that decision for three years when I hit an important birthday :eek
I don't have the room to keep two bikes (no garage) so the FZ1 would go.
There's a lot happening in the bike world just now (the MTs, the new 1200S Monster, KTMs, BMW S1000R (which I think looks pants), Triumph up to something in response etc.) that in three years time there should be even more tempting bikes on the go.
I'm looking forward to 2017!
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I still have my paper license and there is absolutely no obligation for me to turn it into a photocard one. It's entirely legal - insurance companies still accept photocopies of it for example.
RIGHT!
I've still got mine too.
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But I can't justify to myself having two (fairly similar) road bikes . I do have the WR as well but that's not getting used.
I may keep the gen2 to sell privately so will have some breathing space if I get it terribly wrong :) but the missus wouldn't be too impressed :lol
But what you said about how the Fazer felt after trying the MT says to me they're not similar?
What would you get for the missus? ;) :lol
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Gay... :rolleyes
:evil
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Sounds like the MT09 has the agility of a 600 with much more power......i like that! :)
So you didn't feel any issue with the rear shock then locksmith like in some reviews?...that's good...prob just journalist talk.
I think i might just give the MT07 a chance too.....engine wise sounds like all i need....maybe not suspension wise though....but for 5k......i could stick an Ohlins shock on one & it'd still be a cheap bike......it looks tiny...but so does the MT09 until you sit on it & find it has lots of leg room.
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I have only seen the MTs from afar in real life. I've not examined one up close. The Yamaha dealer who did the recent work on my FZ1 was telling me that he test rode the new MTs but wouldn't buy one. He said they really are cheap as chips, the plastics are cheap and the build quality isn't great either. He said that you could easily snap the speedo off the bikes. This is a Yamaha dealer dissing the new bikes to a new customer (me).
Square that with e.g. Bike magazine masturbating over the MT-07 in the April edition.
Personally, the snatchy throttle reports of the MT-09 and the squidgy suspension of both MT-07 and MT-09 coupled with teeny tanks means I'd not buy one, but wouldn't say no to a free test ride!
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This is more like what I would buy.
I dont like the half arse seat cover better if it was full so you canot see any seat
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Nice one fazersharp 8)
I reckon all grey wheels would look nice on those.
But im not a fan if wheel stripes stickers
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By your command !
I like the white wheel stripes on the all black one as they go with the white stripe around the grey decals, not needed with grey wheels tho
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Ye i like Grey. 8)
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Noggy, suspension wise, after the initial feeling bumpy, probably due to the bike being lighter and not set up for me, I got on ok with it. It was powering out of bends quiet nicely.
Peter, Yes in std and A modes you could make it snatchy by being quick winding the throttle, but in B mode it was much like the FZ1, very rideable.
There is certainly no lack of power in normal road riding and being lighter than an R6 with that nice upright riding position I feel a good rider would be VERY quick on an MT-09. (not me I hasten to add :) )
I'm starting to like the Kenny Roberts white one now, I wonder how well they are painted, do you think there will be paint issues later on?
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Cheers locksmith
If you were impressed then i'm pretty sure id be ecstatic.......such competition though i really like those Z800's.
& those fancy paint schemes are the icing on the cake. 8)
I haven't been riding bikes that long but i've always been into them, since before i was a a teenager......or was that just the backstreet heroes babes :b ........anyway it seems that bike paint is like the economy......every 10 years we go through a peak & then a trough........bland or stealthy or discreet or conservative........to in yur face, woohoo, look at me, crazyness........& all the while something in between.
Bike design has become too boring & samey but utilitarian......& easy & quick paint is the norm......but now all of a sudden there is the glimmer of a resurgence.....bikes are getting fun again & the style is taking a front seat....because the average sunday rider punter wants that....work their arse off all week, stressed out their nut & then lose themselves in an attack of the senses day out....so what if you gotta stop to fuel up after 100 miles....you'll bloody want to anyway just to gloat to your mates about how much they focced up that last corner...& have a bacon butty....& if you can admire some crazy good paintwork while eating that butty then all the better i reckon.
So im guessing now but those paint schemes are yamaha endorsed i thought they said...so surely they are of good quality...if the sprayer has got a contract with a leading jap uk company then you'd think they'd want to get a good reputation...because it could hit off & become mainstream.
But perhaps it's yamaha putting the feelers out & if nobody pays the extra for these trick paint versions then they'll never make it mainstream.....i reckon they'll be a hit.
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Aaaaaggggghhhh, I put a deposit down on one :eek
May soon be a gen2 for sale!
Edit: meant to add, went for a std colour, deep armor to be exact (the one that looks black in the flesh but bright purple on the yammie site!) and a load of goodies on it as well :)
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Aaaaaggggghhhh, I put a deposit down on one :eek
May soon be a gen2 for sale!
Edit: meant to add, went for a std colour, deep armor to be exact (the one that looks black in the flesh but bright purple on the yammie site!) and a load of goodies on it as well :)
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Nice call, I am tempted to get a 2nd bike to partner with the ZZR1400 but really need to pay some CC debit off :'(
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This is a pic I found, I've got to wait a month. It's the best pic I found to show the colour as on the yammie site it's bright purple. In the flesh it looks blackish and turns dark purply in the sunlight !
Having a few bits added like billet levers, chainguard, rad ends and rear seat cover thingie.
(http://home.btconnect.com/packhams/images/mt-09 (800x600).jpg)
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Nice -- I like black/ silver bikes. Why tho do thy keep doing the forks in gold
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Nice -- I like black/ silver bikes. Why tho do thy keep doing the forks in gold
I have to agree it looks a bit tacky and bling :(
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I love bling 8)
Get more bling
More pics of bling please :b
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I personally like the gold forks. Would look even nicer with some gold wheels to set it off a treat :b
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I personally like the gold forks. Would look even nicer with some gold wheels to set it off a treat :b
Yeh thats the thing nothing else is gold, might look ok on a yellow bike.
I like bling and I dont think the gold looks tacky - it just dont go, thas why on my mock up pik i did it with silver forks
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If the whole lot was gold it would still look tacky, but at least not out of place...
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Out of interest Lock , have u ever ridden a street triple ( base or R )..similar engine, great handling ...as a comparison ??
me I aint excited about the MT styling , but the bigger engine( than a 675) sounds like its got some torque. A 1050 will out power it for sure, but an 800 should be more flickable...hence in the world of naked roadsters...MT could be the ideal mix ?? 8)
I reckon this black one you have bought looks less supermoto than the trick paint jobs, which would suit me more.
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Never tried the triumph, purely because when I look at one it doesn't flick a switch with me.
Don't know why, but I'm a Yamaha man!
I thought the gen2 was flickable like an early Fazer 600 until I rode the MT and realised it was more agile than the FZ1 but felt as powerful. It's no 150mph machine like the gen2 but how often do you do that?
And it's a bit more upright than the gen2 which is good for my aging back:lol
Time will tell and a couple of Sunday morning blast's will either confirm my initial feelings or leave me feeling stupid! :o